Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #8

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  • #661
I also wonder how cooperative PJ are being right now? Are they actually doing anything? Amaral is still getting involved in this case, but why?
Amaral is sticking his nose in for the purpose of self presevation and to make money. Thankfully I don't think he is anywhere near the actual police investigation and is not being taken seriously by anyone who matters.

I do wonder though how the co-operation is going between PJ and the German LE. There was a big story a week or two ago about them requesting samples and evidence from the PJ and speculation that the request may be refused but not heard anything since on what actually happened with that.
 
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We don't have the body and no "parts" of the body.
Is this a clue to the video/photo evidence we believe LE have?
If it's the case that MM's body has been dismembered, body parts could be scattered everywhere.
Sorry for being so graphic, but IMO the Criminal Profiler probably thinks this to be a strong possibility and that's why it was mentioned by LE - even if evidence does not point to it.
CB obviously likes to torture as we know.
IMO it's a possibility that MM could have been dismembered.

 
  • #664
We don't have the body and no "parts" of the body.
Is this a clue to the video/photo evidence we believe LE have?
If it's the case that MM's body has been dismembered, body parts could be scattered everywhere.
Sorry for being so graphic, but IMO the Criminal Profiler probably thinks this to be a strong possibility and that's why it was mentioned by LE - even if evidence does not point to it.
CB obviously likes to torture as we know.
IMO it's a possibility that MM could have been dismembered.

I think it might be more a reflection of all the crimes he has seen, which makes him try to use his words carefully
 
  • #665
I think it might be more a reflection of all the crimes he has seen, which makes him try to use his words carefully

Not necessarily, as I'm sure it would have been considered by the profiler and compared to other unsolved murders like these two, where CB has also been mentioned.................

"The interview came as it was revealed by the Daily Mail how Brueckner was investigated over the grisly murder of a young prostitute.

The prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann was under suspicion, but was never charged, by German detectives probing a 2010 killing in Hanover, police documents show.

In line with German privacy laws, the victim is not named in the paperwork, but that year the mutilated body of 24-year-old Monika Pawlak was found stuffed into two blue plastic bags in the Ihme river, four days after she was last seen alive"

Madeleine McCann suspect's British ex-girlfriend is quizzed by police after year-long relationship | Daily Mail Online

Carola Titze - her body was found mutilated in sand dunes.
I realise he has not been charged for those crimes but studying his profile it is not an impossibility to come to a conclusion that this is what could have happened to MM no matter how grisly it seems.
 
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  • #666
Google translate tells me the LE are hoping people come forward with information about the vehicles and phone numbers in question. It also appears that:
Bilder und Videos können Sie über das BKA-Hinweisportal unter bka.hinweisportal.dehochladen.


Detailinformationen zu den Fahrzeugen:

Fahrzeug 1: Jaguar XJR 6
Farbe: dunkelrot / aubergine
Kennzeichen: Die letzte bekannte Zulassung nach dem Tattag war bei der Stadt Augsburg.
Verbleib: Der Verbleib des Fahrzeugs ist geklärt.

Fahrzeug 2: VW T3 Westfalia
Farbe: weiß / gelb
Kennzeichen: Im Mai 2007 waren portugiesische Kennzeichen am Fahrzeug montiert.
Verbleib: Der Verbleib des Fahrzeugs ist geklärt.
Hinweis: Der Beschuldigte war nicht Halter des Fahrzeugs. Der Halter ist als Tatverdächtiger auszuschließen.

GOOGLE TRANSLATE:
You can upload pictures and videos via the BKA information portal at bka.hinweisportal.de.


Detailed information about the vehicles:

Vehicle 1: Jaguar XJR 6
Color: dark red / aubergine
Characteristics: The last known approval after the tattoo was with the city of Augsburg.
Whereabouts: The whereabouts of the vehicle have been clarified.

Vehicle 2: VW T3 Westfalia
Color: white / yellow
License plates: In May 2007, Portuguese license plates were mounted on the vehicle.
Whereabouts: The whereabouts of the vehicle have been clarified.
Note: The accused was not the owner of the vehicle. The keeper must be excluded as a suspect.

That info on VW T3 Westfalia plate is quite disturbing.

Picture shown by GA clearly holds a Portuguese rectangle plate.

Málaga picture clearly holds a square plate, quite probably German. Also the "D" may mean it once hold a German plate.

So, how can it be if Málaga pic has a German plate and he mounted a Portuguese plate in May 2007?
 
  • #667
Not necessarily, as I'm sure it would have been considered by the profiler and compared to other unsolved murders like these two, where CB has also been mentioned.................

"The interview came as it was revealed by the Daily Mail how Brueckner was investigated over the grisly murder of a young prostitute.

The prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann was under suspicion, but was never charged, by German detectives probing a 2010 killing in Hanover, police documents show.

In line with German privacy laws, the victim is not named in the paperwork, but that year the mutilated body of 24-year-old Monika Pawlak was found stuffed into two blue plastic bags in the Ihme river, four days after she was last seen alive"

Madeleine McCann suspect's British ex-girlfriend is quizzed by police after year-long relationship | Daily Mail Online

Carola Titze - her body was found mutilated in sand dunes
I guess this is a re-post but just read it for the first time and it is shocking/gruesome details told by his ex GF.
From what I've read about the massive child abuse in Koln, Halloween also is mentioned here.

True untold story of Madeleine McCann suspect who seemed like 'perfect gent'
 
  • #668
I really liked pictures demonstrating van was at Barranco beach :):):):):)

Nice information from Shonya :):):):):)
 
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  • #669
I rarely post, but I read EVERYTHING and just wanted say thanks so much to those that are delving and discovering, creating timelines, researching areas, poring over photos and just generally trying to make sense of everything to help find Madeleine. Your hard work is appreciated.
 
  • #670
here is the second section [of 4] of the timeline i have for CB.
thanks to all the WSleuths contributions that have helped to put this together.

i thought it would be a good exercise to test it. so feel free to add/edit/amend/debunk.

1995-2006
G = Germany, P = Portugal
Cases that CB has been linked with are included.


Portugal 1995: [CB age 18-19] CB passed driving test. Drives to Portugal with German gf to evade sentence. Lagos. Camping.

German ex-GF NF is from the same town Wurzburg.
Netherlands 1995: Missing: boy missing from Monster, The Netherlands in 1995; JaïrSoares (7) disappeared while he was playing on the beach.

G 1996: [CB age 19-20] Missing: 21 June; René Hasee, 6, from Elsdorf, Germany, on holiday in Aljezur, Algarve. around 25 miles from Praia da Luz.

Belgium 1996: Murder: 5 July: Belgium. German teenager on holiday in the Flemish resort of De Haan. Carola Titze (16) went for a walk on the beach on 5 July never to return. body was found in sand dunes in De Haan, near Ostend, July 5, 1996.

P 1997: [CB age 20-21]

G 1998: [CB age 21-22]
Murder: Tristan Brübach (3 October 1984 – 26 March 1998) was a 13-year-old German boy who was murdered in the Frankfurt suburb of Höchst. His murder remains unsolved.

P 1999-2006: living in portuguese farmhouse/finca with abandoned wells, in Sitio das Lajes, 2km east of PdL.
P 1999: arrested in portugal; minor theft; 2 months. served time in Evora jail. Evora is in mid-portugal.
G 1999: [CB age 22-23] Extradition #1. back to germany to serve balance of 2 year youth sentence.

G 1999-2001: in custody {where?}[juvenile prison?][adult prison?]
"It is unclear if he served any time in prison, or what exactly the two-year juvenile sentence consisted of." [independent]

Madeleine McCann suspect 'had moved to Portugal to flee prison sentence' in Germany

2000: [CB age 23-24]

G 2001: [CB age 24-25] 7 may: peggy knobloch goes missing. 95192 Lichtenberg, Germany. North Eastern Bavaria. The death of Peggy Knobloch, dubbed the “German Maddie” by British tabloids over the years, has been called Germany's most mysterious criminal case. The youngster vanished on her way home from school in May 2001 and her remains weren't discovered until July 2016, when mushroom pickers found human bones in a forest nine miles from Peggy's home in Lichtenberg, Bavaria. More info: Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner faces probes over FIVE child murder victims | Daily Mail Online

2002: [CB age 25-26]

2003: [CB age 26-27]

P 2004: [CB age 27-28] meets berkshire woman in Lagos. Englsh gf#1. both waiting tables in Lagos restaurant. Relationship less than a year. 2004-2005.

In Portugal, police face pressure to re-examine the case of Joana Cipriano [8], who disappeared in 2004 from Figueira, seven miles from Praia da Luz. Her mother & uncle allegedly confessed to her killing but her mother has since said she was forced to admit to the crime by police who beat her. Joana has never been found.

P 2004: 16 june. Approx. 01:00. Rape: Hazel Behan [20]; Praia da rocha [beach resort close to portimao]. 30 minutes drive from PdL. rape; machete. he was in the bedroom when she woke. and called her name. man dressed in tights and leotard. Leather mask covering whole head. blonde hair. blue eyes. ‘pull’ in tights, birthmark or tattoo on right thigh. removed shoes at the door. set up videocamera in the main room. tied up. tortured. 4 or five hours. Euro 2004 in Portugal

P 2005: [CB age 28-29] new years day; early hours; beats up English gf#1 in the toilets of the bar where she works. climbs into gfs flat and hides under the bed.
P 2005: mid 2005: CB first seen by gf with VW dirty mustard yellow, old, long VW (estate, possible=VW Variant) has this car at the time of MBM disappearance.
P 2005: after mid 2005: CB first seen by gf with VW camper van
P 2005 - camper van photo taken at Praia do Barranco [bka photo released 2020] (could also be taken before 2005 prior to CB ownership)
P 2005 - camper van photo taken within Malaga ferry/port area [bka photo released 2020] (could also be taken before 2005 prior to CB ownership)
P 2005: 5 september 10:30pm. rape of 72 year old in her holiday apt in Praia da Luz. planned in detail according to court documents. forced the naked, bound and gagged woman to stand up – and he beat her repeatedly on her chest, lower abdomen, arms and buttocks with a metal object he had brought with him. scimitar. videod. tortured.

attack lasted 15 minutes. took her laptop on the way out.
Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brückner fled police in 1995

P 2006: [CB age 29-30] at some point leaves farm property, leaves personal items in farm property. leaves or most likely arrested?? [‘caught red handed’ according to MT]

P 2006?: Bernhard P: BP Connection - CB used BP's car yard to store his van at times (Daily Mirror).
P 2006: buys blue bedford van with Austrian friend Michael T in 2006. bedford has portuguese plates.

P 2006: Feb-April: CB and MT lived in the Bedford van between Feb and April 2006. Daily Mail source.

MT says he lives with CB at the Finca (farmhouse) and camped in a van in the garden, (possibly the Bedford).


P 2006: [arrested april 7th] [‘caught red handed’ according to MT] on remand 8.5 months in portugal. trial December 21. released December 2006, stealing 320 litres of diesel from lorries. Michael T cellmate, co-criminal in the crime [MT fined €1800, CB fined a bit more than that because he swore at the judge]. MT is austrian carpenter.
P 2006: ??while in jail changes registration of jag to AB

'At some point I reached the conclusion that he was involved with drugs,' he added, and was in prison in Portugal for two or three months, during which time he handed over the Jaguar car to him.

Augsburg resident Alexander B has told how he befriended Maddie McCann suspect CB after being introduced by a mutual friend in around 2007 or 2008. {must have been 2006}

'He said he needed help and was looking for an apartment in Augsburg.

He was driving a Jaguar, which he bought from the mutual acquaintance. 'Because I'm also a Jaguar lover, we had a topic of conversation right away,' says AB.

He said CB was 'often underway - sometimes he travelled to Portugal, sometimes to Sylt, to Munich. In between, he spent nights sleeping in my attic.'

Christian Brueckner is linked to FOURTH unsolved case | Daily Mail Online

P 2006: while in jail CB instructs ‘friend’ to remove all stolen goods from farmhouse
P 2006: while in jail friend robs all CB valuables from farmhouse, including video recorder.
P 2006: while in jail?? {date?? a former accomplice, with whom he had previously stolen diesel fuel (MT), was told of the video CB had apparently filmed of the rape, and eventually police came to his door so he had to tell his story [> see april 2019].}

P 2006: while in jail BernhardP also wrote a letter to try to help get CB out on bail.

P 2006: Finca owner ‘states neighbours contacted him in 2006 to say the place was in a state of abandonment, he reported it to the police and found out CB may have been arrested.’

'We just did not know if Christian was alive or dead and so we decided to go and report him as a missing person.'We went to the GNR (police) station in Lagos, we made a report there', M said. {neighbour also reported it to police}

Maddie suspect's neighbour destroyed any likely DNA from his house

P 2006: may: farmhouse is cleared. looks a mess. due to being ‘turned over’.

M said that in May 2006 she and her daughter entered the filthy home where he lived - a year before Madeleine vanished - after it was burgled

Maddie suspect's neighbour destroyed any likely DNA from his house

“Evidence of dozens of alleged crimes committed by the main suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine Mccann in Portugal may have been destroyed. Exclusively to RTP, the neighbour of CB in Praia da Luz, guarantees to have disposed of dozens of computers and mobile phones that he found inside the house in 2006, at a time when the owner thought he had disappeared. After all, he was arrested for theft in Portimão. {the diesel crime}
Inside the room, there would also be videos of the violations that CB had committed.
Sexta às 9. Podem ter sido destruídas provas de dezenas de alegados crimes de Brückner

P 2006: December 21: released from jail

Hi, D.

P 2005 - camper van photo taken at Praia do Barranco [bka photo released 2020] (could also be taken before 2005 prior to CB ownership)
P 2005 - camper van photo taken within Malaga ferry/port area [bka photo released 2020] (could also be taken before 2005 prior to CB ownership)


Why do you date those pics in 2005? Why do you date Barrancos before Málaga?
 
  • #671
We don't have the body and no "parts" of the body.
Is this a clue to the video/photo evidence we believe LE have?
If it's the case that MM's body has been dismembered, body parts could be scattered everywhere.
Sorry for being so graphic, but IMO the Criminal Profiler probably thinks this to be a strong possibility and that's why it was mentioned by LE - even if evidence does not point to it.
CB obviously likes to torture as we know.
IMO it's a possibility that MM could have been dismembered.
i wondered what he meant by 'parts' too when i first heard it, but i think he was just being literal. They say they have 'evidence' shes dead and usually people would assume this means they’ve found a body. maybe he just doesn't want to leave it open to interpretation (or for people to speculate if they've found a limb or something) and wants to clairfy that they don't have anything like that as such, no body, no limbs, no forensics at all etc but are still sure shes dead..... i really wonder what they've got.
 
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  • #672
That info on VW T3 Westfalia plate is quite disturbing.

Picture shown by GA clearly holds a Portuguese rectangle plate.

Málaga picture clearly holds a square plate, quite probably German. Also the "D" may mean it once hold a German plate.

So, how can it be if Málaga pic has a German plate and he mounted a Portuguese plate in May 2007?

Idk but when I buy a car in Germany I have to put a request for applications in the netherlands for registration (licnece-plate)and in germany are deregistered. It is a lot of hassle and is usually done by a garage.
Guess it is different in each country,here the licence -plate stays with the car,in Switzerland you have a licnece-plate that is registraties to the owners name.
 
  • #673
I looked for youtube videos for Dragon Fest in Orgiva, March 2007, and one video was interesting.
Could this be CB at 0.46 with dark glasses and cap and wearing a black coat. Mind you, he was a bit older than the usual crowd in here and this guy looks out of place. View attachment 253462

Reading the source article - MT states that he attended this festival, but it is not clear that he states CB attended. Only that he saw CB in Spain in May/June of 2007.
 
  • #674
That info on VW T3 Westfalia plate is quite disturbing.

Picture shown by GA clearly holds a Portuguese rectangle plate.

Málaga picture clearly holds a square plate, quite probably German. Also the "D" may mean it once hold a German plate.

So, how can it be if Málaga pic has a German plate and he mounted a Portuguese plate in May 2007?
Depends on the translation. Does it mean the plates were changed in may 2007. Or does it mean that LE know that in may 2007 the vehicle had Portuguese plates.

Also depends when in may they are talking about. All of may, or a specific date in may.
 
  • #675
Hi, D.

P 2005 - camper van photo taken at Praia do Barranco [bka photo released 2020] (could also be taken before 2005 prior to CB ownership)
P 2005 - camper van photo taken within Malaga ferry/port area [bka photo released 2020] (could also be taken before 2005 prior to CB ownership)


Why do you date those pics in 2005? Why do you date Barrancos before Málaga?
Ty. I was trying to show earliest date the photos could be taken, if CB was the owner. I will reword it.
 
  • #676
Ty. I was trying to show earliest date the photos could be taken, if CB was the owner. I will reword it.

Should I PM you my timeline and see if you can merge? Yours has more details, I was attempting to look at all the "other" missing person/murders he was potentially involved in to see if any were reasonable. With no further news on any of those cases, I suspect that he has been ruled out in many of them.
 
  • #677
Idk but when I buy a car in Germany I have to put a request for applications in the netherlands for registration (licnece-plate)and in germany are deregistered. It is a lot of hassle and is usually done by a garage.
Guess it is different in each country,here the licence -plate stays with the car,in Switzerland you have a licnece-plate that is registraties to the owners name.
I wonder if CB would just change the plates over between all these cars he seems to have access to?

And also, guess how many photos I have of my various cars over the years?!? Zero - unless they are in the background of another picture. And I don’t think I’m unusual in this regard....

So my thoughts on this are that all these car pics could be cropped from bigger pics. For someone who appears to have access to numerous cars, why so many pics of just vehicles?

I’m just not convinced, I think they are cropped

IMO
 
  • #678
Guys, out of curiosity, would anyone have the photos of the VW van with the graffiti on it saved that they could upload here for me to have a look at? Or even if anyone has a rough idea of where they were on the thread so I can go hunt for them?
Thanks :)
 
  • #679
Idk but when I buy a car in Germany I have to put a request for applications in the netherlands for registration (licnece-plate)and in germany are deregistered. It is a lot of hassle and is usually done by a garage.
Guess it is different in each country,here the licence -plate stays with the car,in Switzerland you have a licnece-plate that is registraties to the owners name.

For him to register a plate in Portugal, he must deregister it in Germany. Licenses in Portugal are bound to the car irrespective of owner and are nationwide. He would spend upwards of 500€ in red tape even for an old van.

Bigger problem is: Was Málaga picture taken before May 2007??????????? o_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_O
 
  • #680
Depends on the translation. Does it mean the plates were changed in may 2007. Or does it mean that LE know that in may 2007 the vehicle had Portuguese plates.

Also depends when in may they are talking about. All of may, or a specific date in may.

If Málaga pic is related to MM's case and he changed plates in May, then Málaga must be 4-31 May? All red tape will take upwards of 2 weeks at least and still must pass a special inspection to be awarded a Portuguese plate. I'm not absolutely sure, but after deregistering in Germany he's awarded a temporary plate with a short term (maybe 3 months) to allow for registration in another country.

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