Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #9

[Zolex]

Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner 'terrified' villagers

So this is a different person then this NF?,could this be the same person in Portugal also from Braunschweig that fostered german children with her husband where cb lived for a while..

What do you mean with different person?.. i see NF last name in the article

 

[peanutJelly]

I get the feeling there's more to this break-in story than what we're hearing about in the Press. None of the individuals concerned sound like reputable characters, MT included. Seems very convenient for these 'friends' of CB to have destroyed the evidence that they were apparently morally outraged by. Yet didn't report anything at the time or pass the evidence on.

When does MT actually claim to have reported it to police? I don't think he's said. He knew about it while they were both still in prison yet he met up with him in Portugal months after they were released when there was no obligation for him to and then again in Spain months later. Couldn't have been that outraged by it if he was still bothering with him.

It sounds to me like he went to them after watching the Netflix doc, as they interviewed him the day after he had seen it which would otherwise be very coincidental

 

[peanutJelly]

I get the feeling there's more to this break-in story than what we're hearing about in the Press. None of the individuals concerned sound like reputable characters, MT included. Seems very convenient for these 'friends' of CB to have destroyed the evidence that they were apparently morally outraged by. Yet didn't report anything at the time or pass the evidence on.

When does MT actually claim to have reported it to police? I don't think he's said. He knew about it while they were both still in prison yet he met up with him in Portugal months after they were released when there was no obligation for him to and then again in Spain months later. Couldn't have been that outraged by it if he was still bothering with him.

DBM duplicate

 

[LeopardLeotard]

What do you mean with different person?.. i see NF last name in the article

Theres a nf who lived in villa Bianca with husband that fostered kids that cb lived with for a bit..theres also nm everyone is talking about are these seperate people?,as nf is from Braunschweig too...

 

[LeopardLeotard]

EXCLUSIVE: Footage of property where paedophile and suspect Christian Brueckner lived in the months after Madeleine McCann disappeared from Portugal - Olive Press News Spain
Ive read he dated nf and other reports she was married to Roman who lived there too.She was claiming to be a child psychologist who was looking after troubled german children something to do with the german government,one of whom ran away and was found with romanians by CB and she was pregnant,whether she was pregnant before she ran off or got pregnant after she ran off i dont know but what if he had to find her because he was potentially the father,it says nf didnt get any more children after that. Its all odd they know each other from Braunschweig...Even if all the goings on were legit the place was left with drug paraphernalia..although ive read that nf left before roman and he was kicked oit as his name wasnt on lease. Also cb was left in charge of said troubled youths alone.

 

[Jenesaisquoi]

Theres a nf who lived in villa Bianca with husband that fostered kids that cb lived with for a bit..theres also nm everyone is talking about are these seperate people?,as nf is from Braunschweig too...[/QUOTE)

NF is different to NM. I think there is a theory that NM may be a troubled youngster fostered by NF. There are msm reports of a foster teen of NM who ran away in Portugal and got brought back pregnant. CB was the person who found the pregnant teen and brought her back to NF. Now there is speculation that NM may have been that troubled child, and hence in Portugal when Madeleine was taken. That would therefore potentially mean that that NM had at some point been pregnant, but that is speculation.

I think I added my comments to the quote, instead of beneath, in case I confused you all.

 

[Newthoughts]

I wonder what type of concrete it is. There are so many types.

https://twitter.com/jimgamble_ineqe/status/1279351522720124929?s=21

My horrible guess would be something found on one of his USBs or hard drives. We know he filmed rapes and we know he makes money and we know such things sell. They've said there is no body, I'm guessing no forensics. I can't think of anything else they could suddenly have found.

I feel very sorry for her parent's

 

[Officer Dibble]

Did ya know that even if he deleted the photos off his camera / memory card, they could have been recovered reallllly easily? Seriously. Its the click or two of a button on a keyboard and they're all back on file. I'd have taken and KEPT the memory card, and I would have also smashed the cam and then sent it for a swim and if he wanted to have me charged for destruction of property? So be it.

That is why he wanted the Police to come but they didn't turn up until the next morning. He had to let him go. I wish he'd taken a photo of him (he didnt say that he did)

 

[peanutJelly]

That is why he wanted the Police to come but they didn't turn up until the next morning. He had to let him go. I wish he'd taken a photo of him (he didnt say that he did)

I think I read somewhere that he did take a photo but then later deleted it ?

 

[photographer4]

I also think it looks like a pram with child wearing pink...same pink colour we saw in the other photo discussed where a few of us could see a child or a child & older person, most thought it was the curtains. I’m convinced it was Madeleine, I think they have photographic evidence she was in his VW camper van.

If they had that, they'd surely be all over charging this guy, no? Wouldn't that constitute definitive proof that he took her or was working with someone else who did? If they had that, why the hold up on charging him? Also, I'm super doubtful that they'd release such a photo to the media. It would tip their hand to him and his lawyers as to what they do or do not have, and they are avoiding doing this. They're avoiding it so much they haven't charged or interviewed CB yet.

 

[photographer4]

Is Robert M. a brother of NM?
Or in anyway a relative of NM?

Or some sort of associate?

 

[Kikixxxx]

For years and years already, and with no end in sight. I literally tremble every day when I check the news, afraid to see a new statement from him. He is just so adamant never to let anyone solve this case. There are no words to describe the guy, only a terrible sense of utter hopelessness.

EDIT: typo

Exactly this! He seems determined to thwart any new leads or write off any potential suspects because he’s so bitter about the whole thing.

The crap he said about the van and the graffiti And going as far as editing The pic of CB - when there’s zero evidence he ever had his hair that long in the first place or any evidence The van looked like that in 2007! Infact there’s evidence the van didn’t have that graffiti on it 2007. He’s a complete shambles and I wish the media would stop giving this waste of space irrelevant nobody airtime.

 

[Zolex]

Theres a nf who lived in villa Bianca with husband that fostered kids that cb lived with for a bit..theres also nm everyone is talking about are these seperate people?,as nf is from Braunschweig too...

Yes a bit confusing maybe. NF is an exGF of CB they are both raised in the same town of Wurzburg and i think she is the one that went to Portugal together with CB in 1995, NF is also the woman that got married later with RS and started a foster parents house (Villa Bianca) in Foral. NM is also an ex GF of CB but she was the GF of CB from 2014, she was just 17 at that time, she is from Braunschweig the place were CB went to in 2014.

 

[LeopardLeotard]

Could the teenage girl that he found with Romanians be nm?

 

[haden]

We have been told CB dated NM in 2012 and we have assumed based on what we have read in the media that they met in Germany when she lived around the corner from his Kiosk. My latest train of thought after reading this article is that could CB have met her much earlier? Was she a child staying at the home in Foral? We heard her father died, maybe could have been earlier than we think causing her to go there? Did he groom her from 2006? Could she have had phone call with CB the night MM went missing (If the phone / sim card that was used had been left at LS villa...could it then have been passed to one for her relatives DS? Could be a possibly explanation of why the phone was traced to him?) could NM have met MM? Does she know how MM died? Was she forced to take part in any abuse that went on? Is this why she’s said to be key witness? I just can’t rule anything out in this case, far too many false leads in PJ files & too many dodgy friend/connections making statements now that should have alarmed them at the time. Seems as if they are trying to muddy the waters for their own benefit. I defo don’t think he acted alone. Just thinking out loud.

Now, the ‘key’ witness who ‘could’ throw some light on the situation – and ‘might’ provide that vital piece of information that police so badly need – is a former Kosovan girlfriend of Brueckner, who is described as having been a minor in 2006 when she was living with him in a remote spot near Praia da Luz.



German police “fear Maddie suspect could go on run” endangering “other children” - Portugal Resident

This is far stretched and I hope this will not become a fact where someone would write "I remember reading somewhere that......."

 

[Lilly b]

EXCLUSIVE: Footage of property where paedophile and suspect Christian Brueckner lived in the months after Madeleine McCann disappeared from Portugal - Olive Press News Spain
Ive read he dated nf and other reports she was married to Roman who lived there too.She was claiming to be a child psychologist who was looking after troubled german children something to do with the german government,one of whom ran away and was found with romanians by CB and she was pregnant,whether she was pregnant before she ran off or got pregnant after she ran off i dont know but what if he had to find her because he was potentially the father,it says nf didnt get any more children after that. Its all odd they know each other from Braunschweig...Even if all the goings on were legit the place was left with drug paraphernalia..although ive read that nf left before roman and he was kicked oit as his name wasnt on lease. Also cb was left in charge of said troubled youths alone.

I think nf, is a social worker now in Germany?, again read that somewhere a while ago.
I don't suppose they would of thought how bad CB had/has become regarding abuse and violence etc, whilst letting him stay there with young children,
There is a lot of people with little bits of information about CB, and as mentioned previously, they will want all the pieces of the jigsaw, before they charge him with anything.
Yes, in that house after they had all gone, was drugs etc, but I think a lot of CB associates that we have all been mentioning, are more pety criminals, if that.
CB is now a known paedo, once they start, they cant stop- so to speak, and like many, carry on until caught

 

[haden]

For years and years already, and with no end in sight. I literally tremble every day when I check the news, afraid to see a new statement from him. He is just so adamant never to let anyone solve this case. There are no words to describe the guy, only a terrible sense of utter hopelessness.

EDIT: typo

Same here. And then you get people posting on this thread quoting him like he was some kind of a god..
If I was him I would hide in a mouse hole out of shame but look he is still talking...

 

[haden]

Yes a bit confusing maybe. NF is an exGF of CB they are both raised in the same town of Wurzburg and i think she is the one that went to Portugal together with CB in 1995, NF is also the woman that got married later with RS and started a foster parents house (Villa Bianca) in Foral. NM is also an ex GF of CB but she was the GF of CB from 2014, she was just 17 at that time, she is from Braunschweig the place were CB went to in 2014.

Thank you for clarifying.

 

[Zolex]

I think nf, is a social worker now in Germany?, again read that somewhere a while ago.
I don't suppose they would of thought how bad CB had/has become regarding abuse and violence etc, whilst letting him stay there with young children,
There is a lot of people with little bits of information about CB, and as mentioned previously, they will want all the pieces of the jigsaw, before they charge him with anything.
Yes, in that house after they had all gone, was drugs etc, but I think a lot of CB associates that we have all been mentioning, are more pety criminals, if that.
CB is now a known paedo, once they start, they cant stop- so to speak, and like many, carry on until caught

Maybe they have the same philosophy as CB? I don't know if they are involved...but i get a sketchy impression of them. I posted a couple of times about them in these threads and there was a video from Spiegel TV about NF, but they take it offline now... no idea why the vid is offline now?

Could the teenage girl that he found with Romanians be nm?

Could be but according to the articles the girl that run away from Villa Bianca was 15 years old at that time and NM was 10 in 2007.. so that doesnt fit.

 

[LeopardLeotard]

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