Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #9

[Lilly b]

It's very hard to tell, because of the distorted perspective caused by the shape of the van door, but I think I see 2 individuals in the reflection:

Individual 1's reflection is mainly visible in the window. I think it's a male, medium / short hair, with a white top on, and possibly a pair of sunglasses perched on top of his head?

Individual 2's reflection is mainly visible on the door. Looks female in shape, slimmer and shorter than individual 1, with a crop top / bare midriff and grey or blue shorts?

I think I also see a very indistinct reflection of individual 1's leg, which suggests he is standing immediately behind and to the right of her.

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Actually, I think individual 1 might be Owen Wilson?

Good work, never noticed could be 2 people, well done thank you

 

[Lilly b]

It's very hard to tell, because of the distorted perspective caused by the shape of the van door, but I think I see 2 individuals in the reflection:

Individual 1's reflection is mainly visible in the window. I think it's a male, medium / short hair, with a white top on, and possibly a pair of sunglasses perched on top of his head?

Individual 2's reflection is mainly visible on the door. Looks female in shape, slimmer and shorter than individual 1, with a crop top / bare midriff and grey or blue shorts?

I think I also see a very indistinct reflection of individual 1's leg, which suggests he is standing immediately behind and to the right of her.

View attachment 254164

Actually, I think individual 1 might be Owen Wilson?

 

[Zolex]

MT is Belgian... Depending on what part he is from, he might not know German.

No he is not from Belgium, MT is from Austria... even his familyname is a German/Austrian familyname

 

[Lilly b]

There are older pics of CB when his hair was longer, thinking possible him?, is there not another man behind him, on his right? Or its my imagination

 

[Betty_Boop88]

No he is not from Belgium, MT is from Austria... even his surname is a German/Austrian surname

Of course he is. Apologies, brain fart moment there

 

[sleuth-d-]

for anyone interested in shadows and where the sun might be...
here's the August 2007 satellite image with North fixed directly at the top.
yellow pin for position of photographer.
likely that the VW van is following the pattern of parking in this pic.
so the VW would be facing approx. NE/NNE.

side note: see the position of that white camper van in this image and what looks like a little white hut nearby. my thoughts, this area is an initial check area for certain vehicles.
1 websleuther from Malaga would clear up quite a few of these questions.

 

[Dlk79]

for anyone interested in shadows and where the sun might be...
here's the August 2007 satellite image with North fixed directly at the top.
yellow pin for position of photographer.
likely that the VW van is following the pattern of parking in this pic.
so the VW would be facing approx. NE/NNE.

side note: see the position of that white camper van in this image and what looks like a little white hut nearby. my thoughts, this area is an initial check area for certain vehicles.
1 websleuther from Malaga would clear up quite a few of these questions.

Do we know what time of day this aerial shot is taken from? With the sun moving east to west, the other photo must be quite a bit later in the day given the shadow in the westfalia pic is almost directly underneath the car whereas the shadow extends quite prominently to the west here.

 

[redplanet]

Malaga: Based on the location of VW as calculated by others, and its pointing almost directly towards the identified building on the hillside, I reckon the VW is pointing roughly northwest.

for anyone interested in shadows and where the sun might be...
here's the August 2007 satellite image with North fixed directly at the top.
yellow pin for position of photographer.
likely that the VW van is following the pattern of parking in this pic.
so the VW would be facing approx. NE/NNE.

side note: see the position of that white camper van in this image and what looks like a little white hut nearby. my thoughts, this area is an initial check area for certain vehicles.
1 websleuther from Malaga would clear up quite a few of these questions.

Yes I agree that the VW is facing NE/NNE.
Also IMO (from its shadow) the VW is facing almost exactly away from the sun.

 

[redplanet]

for anyone interested in shadows and where the sun might be...
here's the August 2007 satellite image with North fixed directly at the top.
yellow pin for position of photographer.
likely that the VW van is following the pattern of parking in this pic.
so the VW would be facing approx. NE/NNE.

side note: see the position of that white camper van in this image and what looks like a little white hut nearby. my thoughts, this area is an initial check area for certain vehicles.
1 websleuther from Malaga would clear up quite a few of these questions.

Just cautiously covering all the possibilities... In 2007 was the Melilla ferry the only one leaving from Malaga? Or was there also a Malaga-Tangier ferry?

 

[sleuth-d-]

Just cautiously covering all the possibilities... In 2007 was the Melilla ferry the only one leaving from Malaga? Or was there also a Malaga-Tangier ferry?

i read Tangier-Med port only opened in about 2007. at that point containers/cargo... no passenger ferries. they had a load of money pumped in there to add a passenger terminal later.

 

[tedtink]

A Massive Media Maelstrom – McCann, Mandelson and Maxwell

Interesting article there about the likeness of an e-fit to a particular person. The person in question has NOT been named as having any involvement in this case, and therefore, I'm not naming anyone.


Does this guy even KNOW his sister? She is currently said to be 25 in other articles I've read. Who to believe? Him? Or the media? If she was 10yrs old, wtf was she doing in CB's company anyhow??? I'd really like to know where, where and how these two are said to have met. Like really.

They met when CB moved to Braunschweig to run the kiosk. According to most reports she would have been 17 when she met CB so, 10 in 2007. But other reports do have her as being a different age.
There seems to be 9 siblings, so perhaps the brother got ages muddled.

"It wasn't until I saw the photo in the media that I remembered her sitting almost every day in the room behind the kiosk where Christian worked.

Pročitajte više na: Hrvat otkrio detalje o djevojci koju traži i Interpol: 'Ona nije s Kosova, nego Albanka iz Makedonije' - www.vecernji.hr

 

[LeopardLeotard]

Been trying again with the vw beach photo,its probably the best its going to get..im going to start searching for coves that may have something like a medieval fort,or monastery near as i think it could be reflected next to the potential face,i know a lot of people dont agree but i can see a little girl in this picture,ive asked other opinions without telling them what it is and they have all said it looks like a girl.At this point its hypothetical but i think hes took her there to either take footage and/or dispose of her body.Im also maybe seeing some kind of bunting refected i know theres a festival at the beginning of May celebrated in Portugal so maybe that ties in but it would have to be somewhere not overlooked as i cant see him choosing somewhere where he would be observed.So once again ill leave the picture here and do some digging on old buildings near secluded coves that you can obviously drive down to.

 

[Betty_Boop88]

Been trying again with the vw beach photo,its probably the best its going to get..im going to start searching for coves that may have something like a medieval fort,or monastery near as i think it could be reflected next to the potential face,i know a lot of people dont agree but i can see a little girl in this picture,ive asked other opinions without telling them what it is and they have all said it looks like a girl.At this point its hypothetical but i think hes took her there to either take footage and/or dispose of her body.Im also maybe seeing some kind of bunting refected i know theres a festival at the beginning of May celebrated in Portugal so maybe that ties in but it would have to be somewhere not overlooked as i cant see him choosing somewhere where he would be observed.So once again ill leave the picture here and do some digging on old buildings near secluded coves that you can obviously drive down to.

The pic was taken at Praia Barranco. I haven’t seen any forts etc in pics I’ve Googled of the area, but I haven’t spent a lot of time on it tbh.

 

[Dlk79]

They met when CB moved to Braunschweig to run the kiosk. According to most reports she would have been 17 when she met CB so, 10 in 2007. But other reports do have her as being a different age.
There seems to be 9 siblings, so perhaps the brother got ages muddled.

"It wasn't until I saw the photo in the media that I remembered her sitting almost every day in the room behind the kiosk where Christian worked.

Pročitajte više na: Hrvat otkrio detalje o djevojci koju traži i Interpol: 'Ona nije s Kosova, nego Albanka iz Makedonije' - www.vecernji.hr

Difficult to ascertain her true age based on MSM articles as there's so many contradictions. A lot of articles are stating she is 25 now but that could be just because they are copying an existing assertion from another article.

Her brother said she was 10 at the time of MM which would make her 23 now.

Several articles says CB was 20 years older than her, which again makes her 23.

It is stated several places they were in a relationship for 18 months. This article (and others) state they went to Portugal together in 2014 but she was deported back to Germany in 2015 -

"She was only a teenager when they got together, 17, I think. He was much older.

‘They lived in a flat together here in Braunschweig, around the corner from the kiosk he ran.

‘She is a very nice girl. But she was terrified of him. He is completely mad.

‘Brueckner took her to Portugal in the spring of 2014. But she was deported from Portugal in 2015

Brueckner also came back to Germany a few months later. They continued to live together but they kept arguing and fighting."

https://metro.co.uk/2020/06/09/police-want-quiz-madeleine-mccann-suspects-ex-girlfriend-who-beat-black-blue-12825565/amp/

So, if they were together 18 months, and she was deported back to Germany in 2015 before they broke up, the earliest they could have been together was end of 2013 or 2014. This again would put her at 23 (24 at the most) if her sister's assertion is correct that NM was 17 when they got together.

I really don't know what age is correct, there is no consistency between MSM as others sources are claiming they got together in 2012.

 

[Kikixxxx]

McCann suspected extradited from Portugal twice on child sex offences | Daily Mail Online

Parents of the children who raised the alarm after Brueckner exposed himself in the playground in the town of Sao Bartomoleu de Messines in 2017, have told of their horror.

Brueckner was arrested at 2.15am by local police officers after four children told their parents he had flashed at them while they were playing.

I forgot he went back to Portugal in 2017?

 

[Dlk79]

McCann suspected extradited from Portugal twice on child sex offences | Daily Mail Online

Parents of the children who raised the alarm after Brueckner exposed himself in the playground in the town of Sao Bartomoleu de Messines in 2017, have told of their horror.

Brueckner was arrested at 2.15am by local police officers after four children told their parents he had flashed at them while they were playing.

I forgot he went back to Portugal in 2017?

Yes, he's been extradited back to Germany 3 times, twice from Portugal (1999 and 2017) and once from Italy (2018).

 

[LeopardLeotard]

The pic was taken at Praia Barranco. I haven’t seen any forts etc in pics I’ve Googled of the area, but I haven’t spent a lot of time on it tbh.

Thankyou

 

[MENDEL]

"They are also checking banks in Portugal to see if it was topped up at an ATM." WHYYYYYY have they not already done this?!?!??!

Perhaps because they need a court warrant that must be requested by German LE and they only did it now. Anyway I don't know how likely those data are available due to data protection, but hope so.

 

[Yellowwellies]

Been trying again with the vw beach photo,its probably the best its going to get..im going to start searching for coves that may have something like a medieval fort,or monastery near as i think it could be reflected next to the potential face,i know a lot of people dont agree but i can see a little girl in this picture,ive asked other opinions without telling them what it is and they have all said it looks like a girl.At this point its hypothetical but i think hes took her there to either take footage and/or dispose of her body.Im also maybe seeing some kind of bunting refected i know theres a festival at the beginning of May celebrated in Portugal so maybe that ties in but it would have to be somewhere not overlooked as i cant see him choosing somewhere where he would be observed.So once again ill leave the picture here and do some digging on old buildings near secluded coves that you can obviously drive down to.

I tend to agree. I think I see a little girl in a pink hat in this picture, in the reflection on the van.

 

[MENDEL]

Can anyone link me something that explains what this photo is and where it came from? I've tried googling but haven't seen anything that explains and I missed whenever the photo came out/started being discussed. Is it known to be the actual van?

It started on #820 post from thread #7.