Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect

[Kikixxxx]

The British press aren’t holding back here. More pics being released uncensored!

 

[Satchie]

Yes. That's the problem. I hope I am wrong.

"Detectives’ inability to move the case forward led to appeals for witnesses in the three countries. They believe they have significant circumstantial evidence, and are seeking direct evidence to place before a court, it is understood." German prisoner is ‘strongest Madeleine McCann suspect yet’

I believe they are hoping that the publicity will bring witnesses forward with the necessary evidence. It's worked before. Perhaps he bragged to other people, or his girlfriend knew, or he kept a 'souvenir.' IMO, many people are reluctant to go to police first, and be totally responsible for ratting on an old friend. But if they believe police already have strong evidence, they're more willing to speak up.

 

[Schlumpfchen]

Please stop posting pictures. They don't give any clues about the crime, they do nothing in Maddies case, all they do is harm to people who may look like him. Please respect the German privacy laws.

 

[buggiegirl]

Please stop posting pictures. They don't give any clues about the crime, they do nothing in Maddies case, all they do is harm to people who may look like him. Please respect the German privacy laws.

And they don't mean anything. People don't "look evil," we project that onto them by knowing things about them. What this guy looks like means nothing, he could be a horrible rapist and murderer, or he could be your long time best friend if all you go on is looks.

I'm interested in where the online discussion took place, and if it was him participating.

 

[Kikixxxx]

Please stop posting pictures. They don't give any clues about the crime, they do nothing in Maddies case, all they do is harm to people who may look like him. Please respect the German privacy laws.

I think it’s good and helpful his picture is released. All 3 police forces are appealing to the public regarding information about him and his whereabouts in 2007 - but not wanting to show us what he looks like (or even his name at first)

how does that work? Or help?

 

[CoverMeCagney]

The British press aren’t holding back here. More pics being released uncensored!

I'm a bit confused by Amaral saying 'I'll say something else, the kidnapper is similar, very similar, to Gerry McCann' in the article asyousay posted from November, because he doesn't look anything like him!

Ex-Portuguese police chief claims leading Madeleine McCann suspect is a mystery German paedophile | Daily Mail Online

 

[dotr]

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[Deleted member 268067]

I forgot about the online discussion re Maddy. Was it also a confession?

I do think the British press are releasing a lot and I’m not sure of the purpose beyond a certain point.

 

[Kikixxxx]

I'm a bit confused by Amaral saying 'I'll say something else, the kidnapper is similar, very similar, to Gerry McCann' in the article asyousay posted from November, because he doesn't look anything like him!

Ex-Portuguese police chief claims leading Madeleine McCann suspect is a mystery German paedophile | Daily Mail Online

I thought the same thing too!

 

[dotr]

Please stop posting pictures. They don't give any clues about the crime, they do nothing in Maddies case, all they do is harm to people who may look like him. Please respect the German privacy laws.

The pics i posted top of thread have been removed by me.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

I think it’s good and helpful his picture is released. All 3 police forces are appealing to the public regarding information about him and his whereabouts in 2007 - but not wanting to show us what he looks like (or even his name at first)

how does that work? Or help?

I suspect they've quietly been trying to figure this out since 2017 and now it's crunch time; they need the publics help to find the missing pieces. If printing his photo finds the ex-girlfriend, or prompts someone's memory, or affirms some uneasy feelings about the man, that's gotta be a good thing to progress the case one way or the other. It's time.

 

[Deleted member 268067]

"Detectives’ inability to move the case forward led to appeals for witnesses in the three countries. They believe they have significant circumstantial evidence, and are seeking direct evidence to place before a court, it is understood." German prisoner is ‘strongest Madeleine McCann suspect yet’

I believe they are hoping that the publicity will bring witnesses forward with the necessary evidence. It's worked before. Perhaps he bragged to other people, or his girlfriend knew, or he kept a 'souvenir.' IMO, many people are reluctant to go to police first, and be totally responsible for ratting on an old friend. But if they believe police already have strong evidence, they're more willing to speak up.

They are now asking people to come forward re: a Kosovan ex girlfriend. The problem is - he liaised with a lot of criminals. What calibre of honesty and authenticity can we expect? The people who stole the video camera did so to settle a score so to what extent should we consider the truth of their testimony given that they got rid of the evidence?

 

[Schlumpfchen]

I think it’s good and helpful his picture is released. All 3 police forces are appealing to the public regarding information about him and his whereabouts in 2007 - but not wanting to show us what he looks like (or even his name at first)

how does that work? Or help?

I do agree that it makes sense to publish a picture of him. But I think the mugshot is enough for people to remember him, I don't think it's necessary to publish that many pictures, IMO this is just a publicity stunt to publish headlines like "This is the monster that killed Maddie" or something like that.
Regarding his name, I don't think anybody will hear his name and remember him from that as his full name is quiet common in Germany

 

[Kikixxxx]

I suspect they've quietly been trying to figure this out since 2017 and now it's crunch time; they need the publics help to find the missing pieces. If printing his photo finds the ex-girlfriend, or prompts someone's memory, or affirms some uneasy feelings about the man, that's gotta be a good thing to progress the case one way or the other. It's time.

Exactly my point. The more his picture is circulating the more chance someone may recognise him and come forward with potentially significant information.

 

[Kikixxxx]

I do agree that it makes sense to publish a picture of him. But I think the mugshot is enough for people to remember him, I don't think it's necessary to publish that many pictures, IMO this is just a publicity stunt to publish headlines like "This is the monster that killed Maddie" or something like that.
Regarding his name, I don't think anybody will hear his name and remember him from that as his full name is quiet common in Germany

No I don’t agree with sensationalising the headlines either, But in my opinion in these latest pictures he looks quite different to the original mug shot that was released earlier. Someone may have dismissed him if they’d seen the first pic or something. In some of the pictures he looks very well dressed and smart, in another he looks homeless almost. There is disparity between the photos I’d say. But I do agree with your point too.

 

[Schlumpfchen]

No I don’t agree with sensationalising the headlines either, But in my opinion in these latest pictures he looks quite different to the original mug shot that was released earlier. But I do agree with your point too.

Thank you so much. I have to say that I enjoy the discussions here, it is not common for webforums to have discussions without trolls and name calling.

 

[mrjitty]

I suspect they've quietly been trying to figure this out since 2017 and now it's crunch time; they need the publics help to find the missing pieces. If printing his photo finds the ex-girlfriend, or prompts someone's memory, or affirms some uneasy feelings about the man, that's gotta be a good thing to progress the case one way or the other. It's time.

The trouble is the coverage leads inevitably to a tabloid storm of pedo/weirdo - therefore guilty of this crime as well

It is completely irresponsible and ultimately unhelpful

He is basically already being fitted up by the press as guilty of this crime, despite no evidence being presented

 

[mrjitty]

I do agree that it makes sense to publish a picture of him. But I think the mugshot is enough for people to remember him, I don't think it's necessary to publish that many pictures, IMO this is just a publicity stunt to publish headlines like "This is the monster that killed Maddie" or something like that.
Regarding his name, I don't think anybody will hear his name and remember him from that as his full name is quiet common in Germany

Agreed

This is what constantly happens with the tabs.

They convict by innuendo, without any hard evidence being presented.

 

[Deleted member 268067]

The trouble is the coverage leads inevitably to a tabloid storm of pedo/weirdo - therefore guilty of this crime as well

It is completely irresponsible and ultimately unhelpful

He is basically already being fitted up by the press as guilty of this crime, despite no evidence being presented

This is true. I can’t fathom how that would be a good strategy for bringing witnesses forward but I can see how that might lead to some really bias and skewed public feedback.

 

[Andreee]

Translated Transcript for the press conference given by Hans Christian Wolters, Speaker of the Staatsanwaltschaft Braunschweig (Departement of public prosecution Braunschweig) on June 4th 2020, 13:00

"Hello, my Name is Hans Christian Wolters, I am here to give a short statement regarding the ongoing investigation in the missing person case of the British girl Madeleine Beth McCann who vanished on May 3rd 2007 from an apartement complex in Praya de Luz, Portugal. The Departement of public prosecution Braunschweig is investigating a 43 year old German citizen in suspicion of murder. You can conclude that we do think that the girl is dead. The suspect is a repeated sexual offender, who has been charged for child molestation before. Right now he is imprisoned because of a different charge and is serving a sentence of seven years. The suspect was living regulary in the Algarve between 1995 and 2007, amongst others in a house between Lagos and Praya de Luz. As far as we know he worked in different part-time jobs in the area of Lagos, amongst others in gastronomy. Clues suggest that he also committed multiple crimes to finance his living, including break-ins at hotels and holiday flats and drug trafficking. The Departement of puclic prosecution Braunschweig is working on the case, because the suspect was living in the district of Braunschweig before his stay in Portugal. The Bundeskriminalamt (German Federal Office of Criminal Investigation) is working on behalf of the Departement of public prosecution Braunschweig, they are investigating closely with the Metropolitan Police and the portugese PJs. We now ask for the help of the public, a witnessappeal was published on the website of the BKA yesterday. I ask everybody to look at the appeal and help with your statement. Because of the ongoing investigation I can not give any more information, especially regarding details of the criminal charges and previous investigation results. This is the end of my statement, thank you for your attention."
translated by me, someone who is not familiar with juristic terms, I am very sorry for spelling mistakes.