Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #3

[kimi_SFC]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/03/12/fire-san-francisco/6315437/

And... A Five-Alarm Fire near UCSF in San Francisco...?

Hmmmmm?

I used to live in the newly built housing (at the time) for the expansion at Mission Bay. It was made available for UCSF employees, but is not the location of the fire.

For reference, it is not the Parnassus campus, up on the hill, near the red and white antenna overlooking the City. Mission Bay overlooks the water and is just a few blocks south of Pac Bell or AT&T Park, the home of the Giants.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I see no connection. This says it was yesterday. Big fires happen all over the place and don't make national news.


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Yes...

but... New York and San Francisco are major potential targets (IMO..

and last night is still in the time frame between plane going missing until now...

JMO

 

[billiejo]

On The View just now a man Barbara Walters called an aviation expert stated three possibilities as to what happened.
1.The plane exploded in mid air. He doubts this because of lack of debris field.
2.The cabin depressurized , the pilots became unconscious and the plane flew on to an unknown location.
3.Suicide pilot and the transmissions were turned off.
I got the impression he leans toward number 3.

 

[Tssiemer]

Yes...



but... New York and San Francisco are major potential targets (IMO..



and last night is still in the time frame between plane going missing until now...



JMO

I hear you. No offense I just hope you're wrong. Does that make sense?


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[eileenhawkeye]

I see no connection. This says it was yesterday. Big fires happen all over the place and don't make national news.


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Agreed. I dont see how they could be connected. Do people think the plane was flown into the building....? I am confused...

Why would terrorists target an old apartment building in Harlem?

 

[Tssiemer]

Agreed. I dont see how they could be connected. Do people think the plane was flown into the building....? I am confused...

No no. Just buildings going up in flames.


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[What'sThatClue]

On The View just now a man Barbara Walters called an aviation expert stated three possibilities as to what happened.
1.The plane exploded in mid air. He doubts this because of lack of debris field.
2.The cabin depressurized , the pilots became unconscious and the plane flew on to an unknown location.
3.Suicide pilot and the transmissions were turned off.
I got the impression he leans toward number 3.

Iirc, a guest on CNN's Anderson Cooper yesterday stated that if the plane had depressurized it could not have made a turn and would have continued flying 'straight'.

So perhaps the turn was made prior to a decompression? Tho I'm leaning toward #3 too.

 

[Scottndianner]

There is a couple of typos in the article that say 2013 not 2014, the article is from today. Did a google translate and I think this is where they say the body was found

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Pulau+Salahnama/@3.3422211,99.7227778,7z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x3033bd32c924ff0b:0x5d80f4a99157bc05

I thought perhaps the date format was day/month/year, but the 2013 reference really convinced me this was from December..:blushing:Interesting, nonetheless.

 

[Tssiemer]

I thought perhaps the date format was day/month/year, but the 2013 reference really convinced me this was from December..:blushing:Interesting, nonetheless.

It's specifically says it's not clear whether the body is from the Malaysian missing airline.

Well translated specifically.


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[Boodles]

I have a Facebook friend (went to high school with him 20 years ago) who is in Kuala Lumpur right now, traveling for pleasure. I posted on FB last night about MH370, and my theories of what could have happened. He responded, "What!? I am in Malaysia right now, about to board a plane in the Kuala Lumpur airport, and I have heard NOTHING about this plane disappearing. Thanks for the info!"

Now how freaking weird is that!?

Key phrase "traveling for pleasure..."

 

[Mama_Owl]

http://kfor.com/2014/03/12/search-help-find-missing-malaysian-flight-from-home/

I haven't had a chance to go through the previous posts yet, so I don't know if this has already been posted or not. You can help look for the missing plane via satellite images by clicking the above link, like what was done a number of years ago when Steve Fossett crashed his plane.

 

[PrairieWind]

Iirc, a guest on CNN's Anderson Cooper yesterday stated that if the plane had depressurized it could not have made a turn and would have continued flying 'straight'.

So perhaps the turn was made prior to a decompression? Tho I'm leaning toward #3 too.

I would rule out #1 as well, slight chance of #2, and more likely #3. I would also still not rule out #4, some sort of terrorist take over, though it could be that the take over was not entirely successful and the plane ultimately ended up in the water.

 

[CherBearSTL]

On The View just now a man Barbara Walters called an aviation expert stated three possibilities as to what happened.
1.The plane exploded in mid air. He doubts this because of lack of debris field.
2.The cabin depressurized , the pilots became unconscious and the plane flew on to an unknown location.
3.Suicide pilot and the transmissions were turned off.
I got the impression he leans toward number 3.

A co-worker of mine, who is a commercial pilot AND a flight instructor said exactly the same thing. He is certain that the plane didn't explode, and that it is in the ocean or hidden in a remote area for later use. He is adamant that the transponders were switched off. He is highly doubtful that an "accident" occurred here.

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[Tssiemer]

Key phrase "traveling for pleasure..."

My thoughts exactly. I purposefully ignore this kind of stuff on vacation lol. Hell we went to Mexico for a week and my phone and tablet was off the whole time except when I uploaded photos lol.


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[Joe Friday]

On The View just now a man Barbara Walters called an aviation expert stated three possibilities as to what happened.
1.The plane exploded in mid air. He doubts this because of lack of debris field.
2.The cabin depressurized , the pilots became unconscious and the plane flew on to an unknown location.
3.Suicide pilot and the transmissions were turned off.
I got the impression he leans toward number 3.

Cabin depressurization would not automatically turn off the transponder. Only the pilots could do that. The normal emergency procedure for such things as depressurization would be to set the code in the transponder to 7700, not switch it off. So 2 seems unlikely.

Radar will track a plane regardless if the transponder is turned on or off. If the plane flew for some time after the transponder was either turned off or quite working the radar should still show the planes movements, the radar operator just wouldn't know what altitude the plane is flying at.

If the pilot planned on committing suicide, switched off the transponder and then flew for some distance the plane should have still been tracked on radar, unless the plane was flown very close to the surface below radar coverage.

ETA: Unless a structural failure caused a depressurization to occur which perhaps severed the antenna wires for the transponder, radios, ect. and the pilots were unable to contact ATC and or they became unconscious I don't see why the transponder would have been turned off or quite working. If this was the case I think the plane would have crashed close to where radar contact was lost.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

I'm half expecting to hear one of the pilots or passengers spent last summer white water rafting in Afghanistan.

 

[Boodles]

Cabin depressurization would not automatically turn off the transponder. Only the pilots could do that. The normal emergency procedure for such things as depressurization would be to set the code in the transponder to 7700, not switch it off. So 2 seems unlikely.

Radar will track a plane regardless if the transponder is turned on or off. If the plane flew for some time after the transponder was either turned off or quite working the radar should still show the planes movements, the radar operator just wouldn't know what altitude the plane is flying at.

If the pilot planned on committing suicide, switched off the transponder and then flew for some distance the plane should have still been tracked on radar, unless the plane was flown very close to the surface below radar coverage.

Yes, but wasn't the plane in transition between Malaysia and Vietnamese airspace? Wasn't there a "blind spot" and then the plane failed to register on the incoming (VN) radar?

I'm not even sure I know what I'm talking about anymore. Nothing is clear. This makes my hair hurt.

 

[PrairieWind]

I am wondering if the reason the Malasians are being so vague and confusing about the military radar tracking is either just wanting to be secretive about their radar capabilities or to cover up the fact that there are huge holes in their air defense capabilities.

 

[Softail]

‘All right, good night’ reportedly last words heard from missing Malaysia Airlines jet

Malaysia’s civil aviation officials said Wednesday in Beijing that the final voice communication heard from the missing Malaysian Airlines jet to air traffic controllers was, "All right, good night," The Straits Times reported.

The message was reportedly sent from the cockpit to the controllers in response to being informed that the plane with 239 passengers was entering Vietnamese airspace


http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/0...-direction-missing-jet-no-scenario-ruled-out/

 

[JerseyGirl]

TRANSLATION:

Fishermen found the bodies of men on the island Salahnama , Coal County , North Sumatra ( North Sumatra ) .

Trying to map this:

Salahnama Island (Pulau Salahnama in Indonesian) is a small island in the Strait of Malacca, off the coast of Sumatra, about 40 km from Tanjung Balai and 10 km south of Pandang Island. It belongs to Indonesia.

The island is about 500 m long and 250 m wide. It is densely wooded with steep rocky sides rising from the sea. Two above-water rocks lie on the north and south sides, the latter about 800 m from the shore. Its highest point is 89 m above sea level.

Salahnama and Pandang are locally known as The Brothers.