Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #3

[nursebeeme]

I read the entire flightradar24 thread on the flight (they were the ones that had the radar to start with), and this plane banked and then went off radar at 35,000 feet. the bank that it made was the exact same bank that the plane in front of it had done. I find it really odd that the military now *thinks* they saw it somewhere else. These folks clearly saw it poof! Also pretty sad that it is civilian radar that caught the plane vanish and not their own radar that should have been tracking the dang airplane!

And now they are saying they are not *sure* if it was THE plane (the military)

I don't blame countries for wanting to wait for more concrete info before deploying entire fleets of ships, etc.. next thing you know they will be wanting to search off the coast of Florida at this rate!

(sorry just ranting a bit)

 

[Marg from Oz]

My opinion is that the echelons of Malaysia"s rulers and military do not answer to the people and keep them in the dark. That is why they are now on the back foot all the time and having to retract so much because they have not been questioned before and no one has dared to question them when they contradict themselves.

Having travelled in Asia my opinion is that the people in authority are in name only and are not competent in the jobs they should be doing. Look at the maritime unit that couldn't keep hold of a life raft that fishermen had tied to their boat, Why didn't they tie it to their own boat? It seems once they have the job they are accountable to no one.

The same with the doctored photo. That would have passed for their own people because again no one would have dared to question it. They must be feeling very uncomfortable being under scrutiny of the worlds press.

Also I can't understand why they have brought all the relatives to Malaysia. What are they going to do with them if this goes on for weeks/months? The gesture of the $3000.00 isn't going to last long. You can tell by their press conferences that they are out of their depth. It appears to me that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. JMO

 

[JudyBolton]

I can not believe nothing more. I keep thinking they are gathering more info by now they have to have an idea..

I have to wonder.. If this plane is not being hidden somewhere? I know that seems odd and not possible but where is it??????

The other option is it is no where near where they thought it was. If they tracked it for an hour after the transponder stopped working, How far could it have gone? It was fully fueled yes?

IIRC - the flight was supposed to be just over 5 hours. If this happened somewhere from 40 minutes to 1 1/2 hours into the flight - it seems they would have 4 hours of fuel remaining..... so if they were flying under the radar they could quite a distance from the search area.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Also I can't understand why they have brought all the relatives to Malaysia. What are they going to do with them if this goes on for weeks/months? The gesture of the $3000.00 isn't going to last long. You can tell by their press conferences that they are out of their depth. It appears to me that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. JMO

I thought that was odd too.

 

[belimom]

MISSING MH370: Fishermen find life raft near PD

Read more: MISSING MH370: Fishermen find life raft near PD - Latest - New Straits Times http://www.nst.com.my/latest/font-c...find-life-raft-near-pd-1.509222#ixzz2vjQgJeea

This liferaft seems to match this Seago liferaft - not the black tubes, the orange/black 'BOARDING' sign, and the yellow boarding 'platform'? No other brand I've looked at have the orange/black sign that looks like that, so that's a distinctive marking. Some have orange tubes, some black, some yellow. This all seems to match up. (ETA: what I think is the yellow boarding ladder may be the faded orange canopy. They have a model without the boarding ladder also.)

 

[CARIIS]

But... where did they get the lifejacket, if on a plane? Like I posted above, commercial airlines don't have the room and extra weight capacity to carry foam lifejackets/PFD's. They use inflatable ones (which don't stay inflated for this long...) or the seat cushions. Not so sure it's from this plane.

Or whack job that just happened to have a close up pic of some raft! Same as the story of a body after all we have listened to hard to grasp anything anylonger until at least 48 minutes passes before someone changes their mind, story!

 

[JerseyGirl]

Timeline: The search for missing Malaysian jet

http://news.yahoo.com/timeline-search-missing-malaysian-jet-052203899--sector.html

 

[popsicle]

This liferaft seems to match this Seago liferaft - not the black tubes, the orange/black 'BOARDING' sign, and the yellow boarding 'platform'? No other brand I've looked at have the orange/black sign that looks like that, so that's a distinctive marking. Some have orange tubes, some black, some yellow. This all seems to match up.

beli, thank you so much for all the maps last night and all the stuff you have done in this thread. :loveyou:

 

[Scottndianner]

Timeline: The search for missing Malaysian jet

http://news.yahoo.com/timeline-search-missing-malaysian-jet-052203899--sector.html

Did I miss an update? I don't recall hearing about anyone seeing a column of smoke. :waitasec::waitasec:

"Malaysia search ships see no sign of wreckage in area where flights last made contact. Vietnam says giant oil slick and column of smoke seen in its waters."

 

[belimom]

beli, thank you so much for all the maps last night and all the stuff you have done in this thread. :loveyou:

Thanks - but, I realized something this morning: when I did the math last night, it was in the wee hours here. I posted that the time difference between 1:30am and 2:40am is ~ 40 minutes. What's worse? None of you caught it! :scared:

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

The Beijing News has reported that a source claiming to be local volunteer assisting in the search for missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 has found a dead body wearing a lifejacket in an area of the Malacca Strait. In a single-paragraph report, the website of the Chinese-language newspaper said that it was seeking to establish the reliability of the claim.

The unconfirmed report is said to have come via a new operations center established in Malacca after the search for the flight was expanded to both sides of the Malaysian peninsula in response to reports that the plane may have diverted from its planned course. The report was first passed to the center of operations for search and rescue efforts on Vietnam's Phu Quoc island.

http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?cid=1103&MainCatID=11&id=20140312000154

bbm

I just don't see how if something happened so fast anyone would have a chance to put on a life jacket.. That just does not make sense to me.

 

[popsicle]

Did I miss an update? I don't recall hearing about anyone seeing a column of smoke. :waitasec::waitasec:

"Malaysia search ships see no sign of wreckage in area where flights last made contact. Vietnam says giant oil slick and column of smoke seen in its waters."

Yes, early on there was a report. imo

"Vietnam rescue airplanes saw two oil spills and one smoke column in the area around 150 miles (250 km) west of Tho Chu island, but we can't confirm it's from that Malaysia plane," Pham Quy Tieu, vice minister of transportation, told Reuters by telephone.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/08/malaysia-airlines-crash-oilslick-idUSL3N0M50DD20140308

 

[popsicle]

Thanks - but, I realized something this morning: when I did the math last night, it was in the wee hours here. I posted that the time difference between 1:30am and 2:40am is ~ 40 minutes. What's worse? None of you caught it! :scared:

Correct, I didn't notice that :floorlaugh: I live where you live so I have the same excuse. I rarely correct things because I hate looking for links and usually read, rarely post.

 

[Elley Mae]

Missing Malaysian Jetliner Confuses World That’s Online 24/7

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...efuddles-world-that-s-permanently-online.html

 

[nursebeeme]

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/arti...-recruitment-witch-doctor-track-missing-plane

a witch doctor?

 

[Little Jedi]

Also pretty sad that it is civilian radar that caught the plane vanish and not their own radar that should have been tracking the dang airplane!

^^^^This^^^^

 

[belimom]

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/arti...-recruitment-witch-doctor-track-missing-plane

a witch doctor?

I have no problem with them adding a witch doctor, if that's their belief system. But for heaven's sake, use some modern technology also. Vietnam and China have done a lot, as have other countries...

And, the witch doctor said this (from the link above):

“I think the plane is still in the air or has crashed into the sea,” he was quoted by Free Malaysia Today as saying.

Um, it is no longer in the air. Four days later. It's just...not.

 

[popsicle]

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/arti...-recruitment-witch-doctor-track-missing-plane

a witch doctor?

:drumroll:

“I think the plane is still in the air or has crashed into the sea,” he was quoted by Free Malaysia Today as saying.

:facepalm:

 

[belimom]

I read the entire flightradar24 thread on the flight (they were the ones that had the radar to start with), and this plane banked and then went off radar at 35,000 feet. the bank that it made was the exact same bank that the plane in front of it had done. I find it really odd that the military now *thinks* they saw it somewhere else. These folks clearly saw it poof! Also pretty sad that it is civilian radar that caught the plane vanish and not their own radar that should have been tracking the dang airplane!

And now they are saying they are not *sure* if it was THE plane (the military)

I don't blame countries for wanting to wait for more concrete info before deploying entire fleets of ships, etc.. next thing you know they will be wanting to search off the coast of Florida at this rate!

(sorry just ranting a bit)

Maybe I'm assuming too much, but I did believe that Malaysian Airlines was tracking the plane also, with their own system. These civilian websites that track just have subscriptions to a service (or something like that) and then publish the data on their own website/platform. But does it actually say somewhere that they didn't track it also? If so, I didn't realize that.

 

[Little Jedi]

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/arti...-recruitment-witch-doctor-track-missing-plane

a witch doctor?

WTF ??

And his conclusion ;

“I think the plane is still in the air or has crashed into the sea,” he was quoted by Free Malaysia Today as saying."

Really !!

* ETA - I see I'm a bit slow today lol