Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #3

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  • #601
Friend of passengers using stolen passports being questioned by police-CNN
Home of pilot being searched by police-CNN

CNN live reporting that searching the homes of the pilots is routine...to see what they've been reading, social groups, etc.

IMO, that friend of the passengers might be in a bit of trouble for harboring them knowing they were using stolen passports. But that's just my own thoughts on that.

Jmo
 
  • #602
Thursday, March 13, 12:45 AM MYT +0800 Malaysia Airlines MH370 Flight Incident - 16th Media Statement

Malaysia Airlines wishes to clarify the claims that some families of the passengers were flown to India instead of Malaysia. This is not true.

Malaysia Airlines flies directly from Beijing to Kuala Lumpur without a transit. There is also no Malaysia Airlines direct flights from Hong Kong to Mumbai or any part of India.


http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/site/dark-site.html

Thanks. Besides, i saw pictures of people getting off a bus yesterday and walking into a hotel and was tagged as the families.

I didn't respond to that claim of them being sent to another city because I saw yesterday they had arrived.
 
  • #603
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I would have expected the letter to be in Chinese,Malaysian, Thai or Vietnamese. Is it common to communicate in English? It seems to be written quite accurate without grammatical or orthographical errors what I find surprising presuming it's not the sender's first language.

Besides, if you see sth like this, why would you wait 5 days before reporting it to the authorities? Also, do all oil rigs have internet access? It looks like as if they're in the middle of nowhere:

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http://www.euronews.com/2014/03/12/...-malaysias-missing-plane-expanded-to-se-asia/

Don't get me wrong, it'd be great if they finally had some indication for the plane's whereabouts, I'm just sceptical due to the spread of misinformation before .....
 
  • #604
NTSB UPDATES STATEMENT ON MISSING B-777 INVESTIGATION
MARCH 12
National Transportation Safety Board investigators who traveled to Kuala Lumpur over the weekend are assisting Malaysian authorities who are leading the search efforts for the Boeing 777 that went missing five days ago.

Investigators with expertise in air traffic control and radar are providing technical assistance to the Malaysian authorities who are working on locating the missing jetliner.

The NTSB plans no further releases of information on the investigation.

http://www.ntsb.gov/news/2014/140312.html
 
  • #605
Thanks. Besides, i saw pictures of people getting off a bus yesterday and walking into a hotel and was tagged as the families.

I didn't respond to that claim of them being sent to another city because I saw yesterday they had arrived.

We have heard too much of the catchphrase:
This is not true.!
 
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CNN live reporting that searching the homes of the pilots is routine...to see what they've been reading, social groups, etc.

IMO, that friend of the passengers might be in a bit of trouble for harboring them knowing they were using stolen passports. But that's just my own thoughts on that.

Jmo

That isn't what they first reported. They are now saying the friend is being investigated for trafficking.
 
  • #608
CNN live reporting that searching the homes of the pilots is routine...to see what they've been reading, social groups, etc.

IMO, that friend of the passengers might be in a bit of trouble for harboring them knowing they were using stolen passports. But that's just my own thoughts on that.
Jmo

He was interviewed yesterday, let me see if I can find it:

An unnamed Iranian, who met both passengers in Malaysia and went with them to the airport, has spoken to the BBC's Persian service about the days before their departure.

"One of the two was my friend from high school," he told BBC Persian on Monday by phone from Malaysia, apparently referring to Nour Mohammad.

"I met him the first day he arrived in Malaysia … He said he was staying for three to four days but was eventually going to Germany. His final destination was Frankfurt," the friend said.

Nour Mohammad's latest posts on Facebook show him in Kuala Lumpur. "Feeling excited," he wrote as he arrived in Malaysia in late February. In one of his earlier posts, he asked friends to "pray" for him, possibly worried about the risks of travelling on a forged document.

According to the friend, Nour Mohammad and Delawar stayed for almost a week in Malaysia before their departure.

"We went together to book the flights, and I even had his booking number and was checking his flight status online all the time," he said. "That's why I remember which flight he was taking: I had seen his flight number.

"I accompanied them to the airport. It was almost 8pm that we headed to the airport, and we arrived around 9pm to 9.15pm at the airport and we stayed in the car for few minutes and chatted."

The friend said he had discovered the pair were planning to travel with stolen passports during the final days of their stay.

"The last night before the flight, they both stayed at mine," he said. "His [Nour Mohammad's] friend was dying his beard and hair and was checking the colour to match with the picture of a passport. He was making himself look like the photo in the passport," he told BBC Persian.

"When we printed the tickets, I realised that the passports were fake. My friend's passport belonged to Austria and my friend's friend had a passport belonging to Italy … They had three flights to take: from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, from Beijing to – I think – Amsterdam, and from Amsterdam my friend was heading to Frankfurt and his friend was going to another country."

He said his friend's mother had since contacted him and asked him to inform the airline about his forged passport.

"His mother told me how he got hold of the fake passport. He had bought the fake passport and wanted to go [to Germany] to seek asylum, and his mother told me his son was travelling with another person.

"My last contact with the two was 11.30pm, when they had passed the immigration gate. I wanted to make sure they found their way. They said they were waiting to get on the plane. I have [since the mother's contact] informed the airline, and this is how I've made sure they were aboard the flight."

"We believe [Nour Mohammad] is not likely to be a member of any terror group and we believe he was trying to migrate to Germany," he said.

Both passports, it has been revealed, were stolen in Thailand. Interpol said they were reported as stolen in the past two years. It was unclear how the Iranians have got their hands on them but it is not the first time Iranian asylum seekers have used forged documents in order to reach Europe.

Tickets for the two were reportedly bought in the Thai city of Pattaya, via an Iranian identified by the travel agent Benjaporn Krutnait - owner of Grand Horizon travel - as Mr Ali. There was no suggestion Mr Ali had any links with the forged passports.

On Tuesday, Iran's foreign ministry said it was pursuing information about possible Iranians aboard the lost Malaysian plane and was prepared to share information. "We are offering our cooperation to obtain more information," said the ministry's spokeswoman, Marzieh Afkham.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...alaysian-plane-mh370-iranian-forged-passports
 
  • #609
That isn't what they first reported. They are now saying the friend is being investigated for trafficking.

Really? Omg......
 
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I would have expected the letter to be in Chinese,Malaysian, Thai or Vietnamese. Is it common to communicate in English? It seems to be written quite accurate without grammatical or orthographical errors what I find surprising presuming it's not the sender's first language.

Besides, if you see sth like this, why would you wait 5 days before reporting it to the authorities? Also, do all oil rigs have internet access? It looks like as if they're in the middle of nowhere:

resize


http://www.euronews.com/2014/03/12/...-malaysias-missing-plane-expanded-to-se-asia/



Don't get me wrong, it'd be great if they finally had some indication for the plane's whereabouts, I'm just sceptical due to the spread of misinformation before .....

Good post really fair questions...............................................
 
  • #612
I would have expected the letter to be in Chinese,Malaysian, Thai or Vietnamese. Is it common to communicate in English? It seems to be written quite accurate without grammatical or orthographical errors what I find surprising presuming it's not the sender's first language.

Besides, if you see sth like this, why would you wait 5 days before reporting it to the authorities? Also, do all oil rigs have internet access? It looks like as if they're in the middle of nowhere:

resize


http://www.euronews.com/2014/03/12/...-malaysias-missing-plane-expanded-to-se-asia/

Don't get me wrong, it'd be great if they finally had some indication for the plane's whereabouts, I'm just sceptical due to the spread of misinformation before .....

The author of the letter is from New Zealand if I'm not mistaken.
 
  • #613
continuing in on the Iranian in KL...

The police in the Thai resort town of Pattaya said that they had questioned an Iranian man who paid cash for the tickets of the two passengers who traveled on stolen passports.

The man they questioned, Hashem Saheb Gharani Golestani, 51, runs a frame shop in Pattaya and was a friend of another Iranian, a frequent customer of a local travel agency, who booked the tickets from abroad, the police said. Mr. Hashem was released after questioning, they said.



The Grand Horizon has a bold sign, Tehran Tours, above its shop front on a busy commercial street. Nearby, a store sells Middle Eastern carpets, Buddha statues and paintings of Arab men.

Two Thai women working at the Grand Horizon declined to answer questions on Tuesday. A man selling SIM cards and mobile phone chargers outside the store said Ms. Benjaporn had flown to Bangkok on Monday night after being questioned by the police.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/12/world/asia/malaysia-flight.html

bbm - well, she certainly ran out of town!

Before leaving for Bangkok, Ms. Benjaporn said that the purchaser of the tickets, known only as Mr. Ali, first asked her to book cheap tickets to Europe for the two men on March 1. She made reservations for one of the men on a Qatar Airways flight, and the other on Etihad, she said.

Those tickets expired, she said, because Mr. Ali did not confirm them. Last Thursday, she booked the tickets again, this time on Malaysia Airlines through China Southern Airlines on a code-share arrangement. She said she chose Malaysia Airlines because it was cheapest.
 
  • #614
I would have expected the letter to be in Chinese,Malaysian, Thai or Vietnamese. Is it common to communicate in English? It seems to be written quite accurate without grammatical or orthographical errors what I find surprising presuming it's not the sender's first language.

Besides, if you see sth like this, why would you wait 5 days before reporting it to the authorities? Also, do all oil rigs have internet access? It looks like as if they're in the middle of nowhere:

resize


http://www.euronews.com/2014/03/12/...-malaysias-missing-plane-expanded-to-se-asia/

Don't get me wrong, it'd be great if they finally had some indication for the plane's whereabouts, I'm just sceptical due to the spread of misinformation before .....

The author of the letter is from New Zealand if I'm not mistaken. He also states at the beginning of the letter that he tried to contact Malaysian and Vietnam officials "several days ago" but received no response.
 
  • #615
I would have expected the letter to be in Chinese,Malaysian, Thai or Vietnamese. Is it common to communicate in English? It seems to be written quite accurate without grammatical or orthographical errors what I find surprising presuming it's not the sender's first language.
.

:dunno: His name is Mike McKay. Sounds American to me. :waitasec:

My next question would be is he on the oil rig alone? Did anyone else see anything? :waitasec:
 
  • #616
Just some examples to support my earlier post:

http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/site/dark-site.html

15th Media Statement

Malaysia Airlines also provided equal amount of initial financial assistance to all families of passengers, over and above meeting their basic needs. All travel arrangements, accommodation, meals, and medical support are also absorbed by the Airline

14th Media Statement

Equal amount of initial financial assistance are being given out to all families of passengers and crew over and above their basic needs. This amount is extended to families of all crew and passengers in Malaysia as well those from other nations.

10th Media Statement

Malaysia Airlines' primary focus at this point in time is to care for the families of the passengers and crew of MH370. This means providing them with timely information, travel facilities, accommodation, meals, medical and emotional support. The costs for these are all borne by Malaysia Airlines

9th Media Statement

Malaysia Airlines' primary focus at this point in time is to care for the families. This means providing them with timely information, travel facilities, accommodation, meals, medical and emotional support. The costs for these are all borne by Malaysia Airlines.

Initial financial assistance has been given out to all families over and above their basic needs.

8th Media Statement

As such, our primary focus at this point in time is to care for the families. This means providing them with timely information, travel facilities, accommodation, meals and emotional support. Initial financial assistance has been given out to all families.

6th Media Statement

Once the whereabouts of the aircraft is determined, Malaysia Airlines will fly members of the family to the location. Travel arrangements and expenses of immediate family members will be borne by Malaysia Airlines.
 
  • #617
OK thats it, I am unpacking my spacesuit, taking my rocket to the gas station fueling her up and heading for Mars! Planet earth is loosing it - there are 3 additionial seats on the vehicle - who wants a seat!

I know...it's all just crazy...:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:
 
  • #618
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-ghaith-trial-20140311,0,6412230.story#axzz2vlzi4x1t

just food for thought but wondering if any animals were checked onto this flight.

What about THIS: :scared:

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-ghaith-trial-20140311,0,6412230.story#ixzz2vm9diS00

Asked by defense attorney Stanley Cohen how he traveled with the shoe bombs, Badat replied that he simply wore them. On his way back to London from Afghanistan, Badat said he gave one of his shoes to a Malaysian terrorist cell plotting its own airline attack.

It was unclear whether that group, which Badat said included a pilot, ever attempted to bring down a jet using the device.
 
  • #619
CNN live reporting that searching the homes of the pilots is routine...to see what they've been reading, social groups, etc.

IMO, that friend of the passengers might be in a bit of trouble for harboring them knowing they were using stolen passports. But that's just my own thoughts on that.

Jmo

It is - it is fascinating stuff folks! The NTSB is unreal. They go back 72 hours - what did they eat how many hours did they sleep fights at home meds number of days flown in the last 30 60 90 days financial problems colleague conflict ever flown with colleage in accident flight feelings about employer write ups now that this has happened go to NTSB website pull one of their reports

THEY ARE AMAZING its a second to second factual account of every second or if you are visual check out one of the dozens of series on air disasters

Air Crash Investigation does great recreations all the dialog in the cockpit is identical to the cockpit voice recorders .... it is exactly what transpired in the cockpit

this one is a murder mystery without a body.......................
 
  • #620
He was interviewed yesterday, let me see if I can find it:

An unnamed Iranian, who met both passengers in Malaysia and went with them to the airport, has spoken to the BBC's Persian service about the days before their departure.

"One of the two was my friend from high school," he told BBC Persian on Monday by phone from Malaysia, apparently referring to Nour Mohammad.

"I met him the first day he arrived in Malaysia … He said he was staying for three to four days but was eventually going to Germany. His final destination was Frankfurt," the friend said.

Nour Mohammad's latest posts on Facebook show him in Kuala Lumpur. "Feeling excited," he wrote as he arrived in Malaysia in late February. In one of his earlier posts, he asked friends to "pray" for him, possibly worried about the risks of travelling on a forged document.

According to the friend, Nour Mohammad and Delawar stayed for almost a week in Malaysia before their departure.

"We went together to book the flights, and I even had his booking number and was checking his flight status online all the time," he said. "That's why I remember which flight he was taking: I had seen his flight number.

"I accompanied them to the airport. It was almost 8pm that we headed to the airport, and we arrived around 9pm to 9.15pm at the airport and we stayed in the car for few minutes and chatted."

The friend said he had discovered the pair were planning to travel with stolen passports during the final days of their stay.

"The last night before the flight, they both stayed at mine," he said. "His [Nour Mohammad's] friend was dying his beard and hair and was checking the colour to match with the picture of a passport. He was making himself look like the photo in the passport," he told BBC Persian.

"When we printed the tickets, I realised that the passports were fake. My friend's passport belonged to Austria and my friend's friend had a passport belonging to Italy … They had three flights to take: from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, from Beijing to – I think – Amsterdam, and from Amsterdam my friend was heading to Frankfurt and his friend was going to another country."

He said his friend's mother had since contacted him and asked him to inform the airline about his forged passport.

"His mother told me how he got hold of the fake passport. He had bought the fake passport and wanted to go [to Germany] to seek asylum, and his mother told me his son was travelling with another person.

"My last contact with the two was 11.30pm, when they had passed the immigration gate. I wanted to make sure they found their way. They said they were waiting to get on the plane. I have [since the mother's contact] informed the airline, and this is how I've made sure they were aboard the flight."

"We believe [Nour Mohammad] is not likely to be a member of any terror group and we believe he was trying to migrate to Germany," he said.

Both passports, it has been revealed, were stolen in Thailand. Interpol said they were reported as stolen in the past two years. It was unclear how the Iranians have got their hands on them but it is not the first time Iranian asylum seekers have used forged documents in order to reach Europe.

Tickets for the two were reportedly bought in the Thai city of Pattaya, via an Iranian identified by the travel agent Benjaporn Krutnait - owner of Grand Horizon travel - as Mr Ali. There was no suggestion Mr Ali had any links with the forged passports.

On Tuesday, Iran's foreign ministry said it was pursuing information about possible Iranians aboard the lost Malaysian plane and was prepared to share information. "We are offering our cooperation to obtain more information," said the ministry's spokeswoman, Marzieh Afkham.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...alaysian-plane-mh370-iranian-forged-passports

This just feels like I am in the Bologny isle!


He said his friend's mother had since contacted him and asked him to inform the airline about his forged passport
 
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