Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #3

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  • #621
Thank you, LaborDayRN. :)

Just learned that some internet suppliers use satellites, yet it doesn't explain why it took this man so long to report his sighting.

edit: alright, then the question is: why did it take so long for the authorities to react to his sighting? Cover-up? Hopefully not, but who knows.
 
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:drumroll:

“I think the plane is still in the air or has crashed into the sea,” he was quoted by Free Malaysia Today as saying.

:facepalm:

I told my 10 year old this and she said "It can't still be in the air, it only had a few hours of fuel." :facepalm:

If he finds it in the air, I'm converting.

I am still laughing over this...

If nothing else, I sure am getting a geography lesson about an area I really didnt know a whole lot about.

Absolutely and it's been very educational for the kids too.
I'm using it to teach them about the area as well.
Not to mention they are learning a lot about aviation.
Hopefully that wears off before we fly in the fall! :scared:
 
  • #625
Thank you, LaborDayRN. :)

Just learned that some internet suppliers use satellites, yet it doesn't explain why it took this man so long to report his sighting.

At the beginning he states he made an attempt to contact Malaysian and Vietnamese official "several days ago" but got no response. Because he didn't specify which day he made the attempted contact, I'm guessing it may have been shortly after the incident. That's just my take (and hope) though.
 
  • #626
At the beginning he states he made an attempt to contact Malaysian and Vietnamese official "several days ago" but got no response. Because he didn't specify which day he made the attempted contact, I'm guessing it may have been shortly after the incident. That's just my take (and hope) though.

And if Malaysia won't even respond to other countries helping them SEARCH...
Why would they respond to some Joe Blow from an oil rig? :facepalm:
 
  • #627
:dunno: His name is Mike McKay. Sounds American to me. :waitasec:

My next question would be is he on the oil rig alone? Did anyone else see anything? :waitasec:

Priority in Motion, iirc, posted upthread the link authenticating the letter..for everyone just jumping off you
 
  • #628
At the beginning he states he made an attempt to contact Malaysian and Vietnamese official "several days ago" but got no response. Because he didn't specify which day he made the attempted contact, I'm guessing it may have been shortly after the incident. That's just my take (and hope) though.

That is the way I understand it too.

Also, not discounting the body found, with "no face". If this plane exploded, someone with severe burn injuries could be described as such. Or worse, if he had minor injuries, and the sea creatures and birds, well, you know.

Wondering about the turn around of the plane. Could there have been a problem with the plane so they turned around? Could a bird have flown into an engine thingy? Cannot discount a terrorist act either, but the turning around suggests a problem. Is the suggested human trafficking happening wherever the plane turned around to go to? So many questions.

If the plane did not blow up, could it have crashed somewhere there is low water, meaning whatever thingamajig did not send water crash signal. Wonder if there are any air land searches, or if the terrain is not good for that, ie: too many trees...

Side note: I cannot get tomnod to work on this computer, unless the server is overloaded.
 
  • #629
OK thats it, I am unpacking my spacesuit, taking my rocket to the gas station fueling her up and heading for Mars! Planet earth is loosing it - there are 3 additionial seats on the vehicle - who wants a seat!

You know you'd have to live with Kimster if you did that, right?! :scared:
 
  • #630
Oh Geeze..... On CNN the anchor lady was asking her guest if we should be alarmed by the pilot's last words - "Alright, Good night" :doh: He says no of course, just sounds like he was being polite.

What is she thinking is so alarming about that? Good grief.
 
  • #631
Oh Geeze..... On CNN the anchor lady was asking her guest if we should be alarmed by the pilot's last words - "All right, Good night" :doh: He says no of course, just sounds like he was being polite.

What is she thinking is so alarming about that? Good grief.

How did they learn of the pilots last words?
 
  • #632
in this day and age, how can an airplane simply disappear????
 
  • #633
How did they learn of the pilots last words?

It was the last communication with Malaysian air traffic control as he approached Vietnam air space.
 
  • #634
How did they learn of the pilots last words?

‘All right, good night’ reportedly last words heard from missing Malaysia Airlines jet

Malaysia’s civil aviation officials said Wednesday in Beijing that the final voice communication heard from the missing Malaysian Airlines jet to air traffic controllers was, "All right, good night," The Straits Times reported.

The message was reportedly sent from the cockpit to the controllers in response to being informed that the plane with 239 passengers was entering Vietnamese airspace.


http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/0...-direction-missing-jet-no-scenario-ruled-out/
 
  • #635
My apologies if this has been previously posted. Still trying to catch up here, while keeping up with current news. I found this to be absolutley mind boggling..but then again, what isn't mind boggling about this missing plane?



Researcher hacks aircraft controls with Android smartphone

Hugo Teso, a security researcher at N.Runs and a commercial airline pilot, spent three years developing the code, buying second-hand commercial flight system software and hardware online and finding vulnerabilities within it. His presentation will cause a few sleepless nights among those with an interest in aircraft security.

Teso's attack code, dubbed SIMON, along with an Android app called PlaneSploit, can take full control of flight systems and the pilot's displays. The hacked aircraft could even be controlled using a smartphone's accelerometer to vary its course and speed by moving the handset about.

First, Teso looked at the Automatic Dependent Surveillance-Broadcast (ADS-B) system that updates ground controllers on an aircraft's position over a 1Mb/s data link. This has no security at all, he found, and could be used to passively eavesdrop on an aircraft's communications and also actively interrupt broadcasts or feed in misinformation.

Also vulnerable is the Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS), the communication relay used between pilots and ground controllers. Using a Samsung Galaxy handset, he demonstrated how to use ACARS to redirect an aircraft's navigation systems to different map coordinates.

"ACARS has no security at all. The airplane has no means to know if the messages it receives are valid or not," he said. "So they accept them and you can use them to upload data to the airplane that triggers these vulnerabilities. And then it's game over."

More at link: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/11/hacking_aircraft_with_android_handset/

Hmmmm.....I wonder if that could be case here.
 
  • #636
This is all just so incredible. All of it. You guys are amaaaazing. This "case" is beyond words. It goes to show you how much of a circus reports from the media can be. All these rumors / misinformation makes me wonder about much of the facts we receive from MSM in other cases. Would much of that be redacted if the eyes of the world were upon them?

The international & political dynamics are, can't find the word for it. The strategic significance of these waters...This is a HUGE world event IMO with huge longterm political ramifications.

0/T, but I HIGHLY recommend the movie "Captain Phillips". Also, the new Robert Redford movie where he's stranded at sea is interesting also. Both of these movies show Maersk shipping vessels, rafts, etc.

So many thoughts, questions...I could stay on this thread for days reading everyone's informative posts, unfortunately I have to work. :(

Prayers for all the passengers and their families.

See yall on the night shift. :drink:
 
  • #637
That is the way I understand it too.

Also, not discounting the body found, with "no face". If this plane exploded, someone with severe burn injuries could be described as such. Or worse, if he had minor injuries, and the sea creatures and birds, well, you know.

Wondering about the turn around of the plane. Could there have been a problem with the plane so they turned around? Could a bird have flown into an engine thingy? Cannot discount a terrorist act either, but the turning around suggests a problem. Is the suggested human trafficking happening wherever the plane turned around to go to? So many questions.

If the plane did not blow up, could it have crashed somewhere there is low water, meaning whatever thingamajig did not send water crash signal. Wonder if there are any air land searches, or if the terrain is not good for that, ie: too many trees...

Side note: I cannot get tomnod to work on this computer, unless the server is overloaded.

BBM I can answer that one. One of our experts here said there were no birds up that high. HTH :seeya:
 
  • #638
How did they learn of the pilots last words?

that is what I have been trying to say all that is from the ATC tower tapes --pulled instantly why noit put them out if all is well ???
 
  • #639
Oil rig worker claims in employer confirmed letter-he saw the plane go down. Vietnamese say they found nothing @ABC pic.twitter.com/k8y02se9aZ

— Bob Woodruff (@BobWoodruff) March 12, 2014

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In the email, Michael McKay describes what he believed to be a plane burning at high altitude, about 50 to 70 km away from his location.

McKay said while he “observed the burning (plane), it appeared to be in one piece.”

The oil rig worker provided GPS coordinates of his location and an approximate location where he saw the plane.

“From when I first saw the burning (plane) until the flames went out (still at high altitude) was 10 to 15 seconds,” he wrote. “There was no lateral movement, so it was either coming toward our location, stationary (falling) or going away from our location.”

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.@ABC spoke with Richard Beaton w/Japanese Idemitsu Oil & Gas Co who hired Songa Mercur to drill & confirms email of Michael Mckay is real

— Bob Woodruff (@BobWoodruff) March 12, 2014



http://globalnews.ca/news/1202910/oil-rig-worker-saw-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-go-down-report/


This report is now unfounded. Supposedly, but who know with the way the Malaysian Government is handling this. Tomorrow it could turn out to be pertinent information!
 
  • #640
The international & political dynamics are, can't find the word for it. The strategic significance of these waters...This is a HUGE world event IMO with huge longterm political ramifications.

Respectfully snipped

I think that is exactly why there is so much conflicting information!
 
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