Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #3

[Isabelle]

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-ghaith-trial-20140311,0,6412230.story#axzz2vlzi4x1t

just food for thought but wondering if any animals were checked onto this flight.

Thanks for bringing that up, but I will not allow my mind to go there! That would be my breaking point.

 

[CARIIS]

What about THIS: :scared:

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-ghaith-trial-20140311,0,6412230.story#ixzz2vm9diS00

Asked by defense attorney Stanley Cohen how he traveled with the shoe bombs, Badat replied that he simply wore them. On his way back to London from Afghanistan, Badat said he gave one of his shoes to a Malaysian terrorist cell plotting its own airline attack.

It was unclear whether that group, which Badat said included a pilot, ever attempted to bring down a jet using the device.

Like someone who is ready to blow himself to dealth is trying to save some $ to buy bomb shoes

hold on my rocket is almost full and ready foir departure !!!!!!!!!!

 

[JerseyGirl]

Oh Geeze..... On CNN the anchor lady was asking her guest if we should be alarmed by the pilot's last words - "Alright, Good night" :doh: He says no of course, just sounds like he was being polite.

What is she thinking is so alarming about that? Good grief.

Maybe that the pilot went to sleep afterwards??

 

[alwaysonmymind]

Thursday, March 13, 12:45 AM MYT +0800 Malaysia Airlines MH370 Flight Incident - 16th Media Statement



Malaysia Airlines wishes to clarify the claims that some families of the passengers were flown to India instead of Malaysia. This is not true.



Malaysia Airlines flies directly from Beijing to Kuala Lumpur without a transit. There is also no Malaysia Airlines direct flights from Hong Kong to Mumbai or any part of India.





http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/site/dark-site.html

That Malaysia Airlines takes time to make a statement regarding this yet waffles on the serious issues is disturbing to me. Where is MH370??


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[margarita25]

the ATC lost radar contact at 1.31am, but military got _something_ at 02:15, 200miles northwest of Penang, and they have no clue what it was

IHAVENOCLUE could've told them that!

"Plane can fly under radar until it runs out of fuel"

Well. Knock me over with a feather.

lol

KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysian police dismissed claims Wednesday that they doctored photographs of two Iranians who boarded a missing airliner with stolen passports — saying one man’s legs were spliced over the other’s in a photocopying error.


police spokeswoman Asmawati Ahmad said the odd appearance of the photos stemmed from a police staff member placing one on top of the other when photocopying them.

lol, seriously?

The tweets from a passenger who claims to have missed boarding Malaysia Airlines flight MH370



http://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...nes-flight-mh370/story-fnizu68q-1226852311845

One of the four who didn't show for the flight. Seriously, I think I saw her on an episode of house hunters.

lol

A prominent Iranian lawmaker has blamed the US for the disappearance of Malaysian flight MH370, claiming Washington wants to cause "psychological warfare" between Iran and China.

Hossein Naghavi Hosseini, the spokesman for Iran's Parliament National Security and Foreign Policy Committee, said the missing plane has been "kidnapped" by the US in order to "sabotage the relationship between Iran and China and South East Asia".

Hosseini described this as a "plot" against Iran initiated by the US.

"Documents published by the Western media about two Iranians getting on the plane without passports is psychological warfare," he told the Tasnim news agency.

"Americans recruit some people for such kinds of operations so they can throw the blame on other countries, especially Muslim countries."

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/malaysia-a...er-blames-us-kidnapping-missing-plane-1439919

wow

The Beijing News has reported that a source claiming to be local volunteer assisting in the search for missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 has found a dead body wearing a lifejacket in an area of the Malacca Strait. In a single-paragraph report, the website of the Chinese-language newspaper said that it was seeking to establish the reliability of the claim.

The unconfirmed report is said to have come via a new operations center established in Malacca after the search for the flight was expanded to both sides of the Malaysian peninsula in response to reports that the plane may have diverted from its planned course. The report was first passed to the center of operations for search and rescue efforts on Vietnam's Phu Quoc island.

http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?cid=1103&MainCatID=11&id=20140312000154

bbm

wow, wonder what will come of this!

If he finds it in the air, I'm converting.

lol

Breaking news.



:facepalm:

lol

Oooh eee ooh ahh ahh ting tang wallah wallah bing bang....

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lol

Side note: I cannot get tomnod to work on this computer, unless the server is overloaded.

Here you go:

Don't you see anything?

(Sorry, couldn't resist saying this twice!)

 

[popsicle]

This report is now unfounded. Supposedly, but who know with the way the Malaysian Government is handling this. Tomorrow it could turn out to be pertinent information!

Do you have a link?

 

[ilovepierre]

That Malaysia Airlines takes time to make a statement regarding this yet waffles on the serious issues is disturbing to me. Where is MH370??


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That's the million dollar question!

 

[Steely Dan]

‘All right, good night’ reportedly last words heard from missing Malaysia Airlines jet

Malaysia’s civil aviation officials said Wednesday in Beijing that the final voice communication heard from the missing Malaysian Airlines jet to air traffic controllers was, "All right, good night," The Straits Times reported.

The message was reportedly sent from the cockpit to the controllers in response to being informed that the plane with 239 passengers was entering Vietnamese airspace.


http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/0...-direction-missing-jet-no-scenario-ruled-out/

that is what I have been trying to say all that is from the ATC tower tapes --pulled instantly why noit put them out if all is well ???

My question too. :waitasec:

 

[popsicle]

Maybe that the pilot went to sleep afterwards??

Clu could've told them that!


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lol, seriously?



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wow



wow, wonder what will come of this!



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Here you go:

Don't you see anything?

(Sorry, couldn't resist saying this twice!)

:floorlaugh:

 

[JerseyGirl]

Malaysian Airline System Bhd. (MAS) opted out of a Boeing Co. (BA) service to collect real-time performance data from jets like Flight 370 for use in planning maintenance, according to a person familiar with the matter.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...pt-out-of-boeing-plan-to-share-jets-data.html

 

[elmomom]

NTSB UPDATES STATEMENT ON MISSING B-777 INVESTIGATION
MARCH 12
National Transportation Safety Board investigators who traveled to Kuala Lumpur over the weekend are assisting Malaysian authorities who are leading the search efforts for the Boeing 777 that went missing five days ago.

Investigators with expertise in air traffic control and radar are providing technical assistance to the Malaysian authorities who are working on locating the missing jetliner.

The NTSB plans no further releases of information on the investigation.

http://www.ntsb.gov/news/2014/140312.html

BBM

And herein lies the difference. The world is used to the way the NTSB and other major agencies for transportation safety handle these sorts of investigation. There is no such centralized agency handling this investigation.
In a typical NTSB handled crash, they get a tremendous amount of info, very little of it is pertinent to the actual event and much of it seemingly conflicts. They sift the information and release it only when it becomes vetted and verified and proven to be pertinent to the event.
What we are hearing is the unfiltered, unvetted and seemingly conflicting data that normally we wouldn't hear. Different agencies within Malaysia saying different things due to different motivations. Of course the military does not want to give out too much info. Of course the airline wants the terrorism angle to be spotlighted (it takes the blame away from them). Of course the government actually has little clue.
So, what appears to us as utter chaos is indeed that, but really in most investigations the data is very chaotic, we just don't get to see much of it undigested and summarized neatly.

Is Malaysia over its head on this? Most likely. Have they asked for assistance - yes - they actually asked the US to look over the radar reports early on (I think by Monday at the latest). Is the US blabbing every little detail - NO! They are very, very quiet. I think this is truly a difficult mystery, the right people are working on it, and because of the unique problems posed by the part of the world it is located in, the investigation is definitely sub-par. China would have the best resources to figure it out, but politically it is isolated here. The US is having to tread lightly because of the same sensitive political reasons.

Try to imagine if a Cuban military jet crashed off the coast of Florida in 1970. How much info about what the US tracked, and what Cuba tracked would be shared with an investigation. Would we want them to know what we were capable of detecting? Would they want us to know? Now picture this, with 5 nations, none of which are best of buddies...

 

[CARIIS]

Maybe that the pilot went to sleep afterwards??

Its a hand off that is it happens all the time

 

[21merc7]

Lol, Margarita! You are too funny. No I don't see anything, it just tells me "map is loading" (ETA: actually trying again now, it tells me "waiting for map" not map is loading) and it does not load. Not just a blue screen. I think it is this crappy computer connection at work, but I love your joke! :giggle:

 

[Joe Friday]

That is the way I understand it too.

Also, not discounting the body found, with "no face". If this plane exploded, someone with severe burn injuries could be described as such. Or worse, if he had minor injuries, and the sea creatures and birds, well, you know.

Wondering about the turn around of the plane. Could there have been a problem with the plane so they turned around? Could a bird have flown into an engine thingy? Cannot discount a terrorist act either, but the turning around suggests a problem. Is the suggested human trafficking happening wherever the plane turned around to go to? So many questions.

If the plane did not blow up, could it have crashed somewhere there is low water, meaning whatever thingamajig did not send water crash signal. Wonder if there are any air land searches, or if the terrain is not good for that, ie: too many trees...

Side note: I cannot get tomnod to work on this computer, unless the server is overloaded.

There is not enough oxygen at 30,000' for humans to survive, I don't think any birds would be flying that high.

I think the thingamajig you are referring to is the ELT. (Emergency Locator Transmitter).

 

[CARIIS]

That's the million dollar question!

Or the 250 million $ question thats how much one of em costs!!

 

[margarita25]

Lol, Margarita! You are too funny. No I don't see anything, it just tells me "map is loading" and it does not load. Not just a blue screen. I think it is this crappy computer connection at work, but I love your joke! :giggle:

Believe me, I spent hours staring at those blue tiles last night until I went cross eyed. That's pretty much the jist of it, blue squares, add some clouds and waves. Hoping someone out there sees something, though! The whole tomnod thing is mind blowing!!!!!!!! Really cool!!!!!

 

[CARIIS]

BBM

And herein lies the difference. The world is used to the way the NTSB and other major agencies for transportation safety handle these sorts of investigation. There is no such centralized agency handling this investigation.
In a typical NTSB handled crash, they get a tremendous amount of info, very little of it is pertinent to the actual event and much of it seemingly conflicts. They sift the information and release it only when it becomes vetted and verified and proven to be pertinent to the event.
What we are hearing is the unfiltered, unvetted and seemingly conflicting data that normally we wouldn't hear. Different agencies within Malaysia saying different things due to different motivations. Of course the military does not want to give out too much info. Of course the airline wants the terrorism angle to be spotlighted (it takes the blame away from them). Of course the government actually has little clue.
So, what appears to us as utter chaos is indeed that, but really in most investigations the data is very chaotic, we just don't get to see much of it undigested and summarized neatly.

Is Malaysia over its head on this? Most likely. Have they asked for assistance - yes - they actually asked the US to look over the radar reports early on (I think by Monday at the latest). Is the US blabbing every little detail - NO! They are very, very quiet. I think this is truly a difficult mystery, the right people are working on it, and because of the unique problems posed by the part of the world it is located in, the investigation is definitely sub-par. China would have the best resources to figure it out, but politically it is isolated here. The US is having to tread lightly because of the same sensitive political reasons.

Try to imagine if a Cuban military jet crashed off the coast of Florida in 1970. How much info about what the US tracked, and what Cuba tracked would be shared with an investigation. Would we want them to know what we were capable of detecting? Would they want us to know? Now picture this, with 5 nations, none of which are best of buddies...

Brillant post this is all about lies while everyone gets their ducks in order but that being said something has gone very wrong here

will we ever know in all liklihood not the truth again check out KAL 007 same stuff aviation politics TWA 800 same mess

 

[miley]

U.S. Spy Satellites Detected No Explosion as Flight 370 Vanished
By Robert Windrem
U.S. spy satellites did not detect a midair explosion at the time that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 lost contact with air traffic controllers or in the hours immediately afterward, senior U.S. intelligence officials told NBC News on Wednesday.

...The U.S. Space Based Infrared (SBIR) satellite system, which is designed to identify heat signatures in real time, can -– and has -– detected exploding aircraft, according to a second official,. Indeed, it has provided evidence in the past of events as small as artillery fire and the launch of anti-aircraft missiles, the official said.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/mi...ected-no-explosion-flight-370-vanished-n51061

 

[PrairieWind]

Malaysian Airline System Bhd. (MAS) opted out of a Boeing Co. (BA) service to collect real-time performance data from jets like Flight 370 for use in planning maintenance, according to a person familiar with the matter.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...pt-out-of-boeing-plan-to-share-jets-data.html

So according to that article, Malaysian Air didnt subscribe to ACARS, but Rolls Royce does, to monitor the engines. So when Rolls releases their info, we should at least know if the engines were running properly, at what power, and how long. All critical info.

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

Lol, Margarita! You are too funny. No I don't see anything, it just tells me "map is loading" (ETA: actually trying again now, it tells me "waiting for map" not map is loading) and it does not load. Not just a blue screen. I think it is this crappy computer connection at work, but I love your joke! :giggle:

Could be because their system is overloaded with volunteers right now. I had the same exact situation during the daytime with Tomnod; I only got on about 12:30 AM (and have stayed logged on).