Malaysia Flight MH17 shot down in Ukraine. 298 aboard. 7/17/2014 - #2

[zwiebel]

Ummm......This is link Russia Today just tweeted right now. Not a mention of blackboxes.
https://mobile.twitter.com/RT_com/tweets

‘#Ukraine is a dysfunctional country, not because of Russia’ - former London Mayor Ken Livingstone on.rt.com/wkaf1f'

http://rt.com/op-edge/174420-ukrainian-government-civil-war/

 

[Little Jedi]

Russian Defence Ministry Press Conference
~ with English Translation


( Including : )

* The presence of the Ukrainian military jet can be confirmed by video shots made by the Rostov monitoring center.


* At the moment of the MH17 crash an American satellite was flying over the area of eastern Ukraine

It urged the US to publish the space photos and data captured by it.


* Ukrainian Buk missile system transported to militia-held area

In addition, MH17 crashed within the operating zone of the Ukrainian army’s self-propelled, medium-range surface-to-air ‘Buk’ missile systems, the Russian general said.

“We have space images of certain places where the Ukraine’s air defense was located in the southeast of the country,”

( lots of info. & images are shown )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bNPInuSqfs#t=44

 

[zwiebel]

For anyone who doesn't know, the right/left wing split has history in Ukraine. During WW2 the Soviets swept through and committed atrocities, then the Nazis then the Soviets, etc.

As well as atrocities by military, citizens happily stepped forward and committed the most despicable atrocities against their fellow citizens too. It was chaos. Just like now, but much, much more lethal.

 

[Dr. Know?]

Shaun WalkerVerified account
‏@shaunwalker7
They have come out finally

 

[Bravo]

I worry as to how this is going to end.

 

[Dr. Know?]

After over two hours apparently spent negotiating, rebel leader Alexander Borodai has emerged from his office with members of the Malaysian delegation.

He begins saying "Today was a very important day in the history of the Donetsk People's Republic."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/21/mh17-disaster-ukraine-obama-live-updates

 

[zwiebel]

Jeez. Russian rebel military are officially making me sick now.

'Wow Borodai has wheeled the Malaysians out, is now lecturing about how Kiev is responsible for downing MH17, with Malaysians standing silent'

https://mobile.twitter.com/shaunwalker7

 

[mck16]

I do have to say those who live under such leadership are not in agreement. As we all know. In my 57 years I have done a bit of travel as I'm sure many of us have. I travelled in the former Yugoslavia (part of Slovenia now) I tried to engage in conversation with a driver about his Government. He gave me a terrified look and said we may be followed and this Hotel may be bugged. Please don't ask me anything of that nature. Standing in the streets of Rome I asked some young folk what area the Mafia operated out of. I was quickly hushed. I was young then LOL. A few years back I was in the Caribbean and we met up with a group of Russian's there on Conference. Again so far from home yet terrified to speak. Sad.

For what it is worth I am beginning to feel that way myself here in the U.S. Anything can be traced and we know phone conversations have been audited. I am very careful what I post on social media or the internet in general. jmo

 

[zwiebel]

They've got Kalashnikovs in their hands. They can lecture as long as they like.

I'm not going to repeat a damn word of it though. Thugs.

 

[popsicle]

They've got Kalashnikovs in their hands. They can lecture as long as they like.

I'm not going to repeat a damn word of it though. Thugs.

A WS blackout?

 

[Bravo]

After over two hours apparently spent negotiating, rebel leader Alexander Borodai has emerged from his office with members of the Malaysian delegation.

He begins saying "Today was a very important day in the history of the Donetsk People's Republic."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/21/mh17-disaster-ukraine-obama-live-updates

So now we know what was being negotiated. LMAO like we believe it. Asshats! Can I say that?

 

[Isabelle]

Jeez. Russian rebel military are officially making me sick now.

'Wow Borodai has wheeled the Malaysians out, is now lecturing about how Kiev is responsible for downing MH17, with Malaysians standing silent'

https://mobile.twitter.com/shaunwalker7

What does "wheeled" mean? Thanks

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Black boxes handed to Malaysian delegation

The Guardian's Shaun Walker reports that the "black boxes will be passed to the Malaysians right now – at 1.10am on the 11th floor of this occupied government building."

Just do it!!! Oh good, pics of black boxes: https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/statuses/491344671436967936

All this posturing, nobody is impressed, the rebels are still guilty and not considered any kind of authority on anything ..

 

[Isabelle]

A WS blackout?

What is a WS blackout?

 

[zwiebel]

'Black boxes will be passed to Malaysians. Right now. Surreal scenes at 1.10am on the 11th floor of this occupied government building'

https://mobile.twitter.com/shaunwalker7

 

[Nore]

Have you seen man with small beady eyes,
with mouth like bird~beak showing?
lives in land grubbing country!

 

[zwiebel]

What does "wheeled" mean? Thanks

In this context it means compliant people who cannot do anything other than what they are told to do. They are 'wheeled out' for public view, or consumption.

 

[Bravo]

For what it is worth I am beginning to feel that way myself here in the U.S. Anything can be traced and we know phone conversations have been audited. I am very careful what I post on social media or the internet in general. jmo

I hear ya. One should be careful. I fear the Criminals more than the Government tho as far as social media.

 

[popsicle]

What is a WS blackout?

Censoring our news reports here.

 

[Dr. Know?]

max seddon @maxseddon · 4m

The black boxes. #MH17 pic.twitter.com/XNeZV5UI5O

https://twitter.com/maxseddon