Found Deceased Malaysia - Nora Quoirin, 15, from UK, special needs, missing on vacation, Seremban, 4 Aug 2019 #1

[HayLouise]

What was the weather that morning? I can't get past the fact the dogs picked up no scent? So was she carried I wonder?

The dogs did pick up a scent but lost it after 100 yards (I think) - will go back and check!

ETA:

Relatives lashed out after it emerged that sniffer dogs lost the scent for Nora Quoirin just 100 yards from the eco-lodge bungalow where she vanished on Sunday morning.

Police dogs lose trail of missing Nora Quoirin, 15, just yards from jungle eco-resort in Malaysia | Daily Mail Online

 

[ms_x_to_the_m]

The search for missing Franco-Irish teen Nora Quoirin enters its 4th day. The rescue mission is now centred on Sg Berembum, a river flowing 60m from The Dusun resort, where the girl was last seen by a witness swimming this morning.


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Totally OT, but I like their pink/red camo uniform

 

[ms_x_to_the_m]

At what point can UK teams come out to assist?

Technically, she wasn't traveling with an UK passport, so unless invited by the local police/family, I don't think they can help. Could be wrong though.

 

[Jealoushe]

Wouldn't it make it seem as if she got in a vehicle?
I mean eventually the scent would dissipate, however, I would think that it would take a day or two and wouldn't the scent be stronger if she spent some time at a spot, like to take a rest?
Just my own, over exaggerated musings

The dogs can follow a scent that is months old, they are really incredible. Technically if she walked out, especially barefoot or naked her scent should be quite strong from the skins oils etc on the ground.

 

[ms_x_to_the_m]

The dogs did pick up a scent but lost it after 100 yards (I think) - will go back and check!

ETA:

Relatives lashed out after it emerged that sniffer dogs lost the scent for Nora Quoirin just 100 yards from the eco-lodge bungalow where she vanished on Sunday morning.

Police dogs lose trail of missing Nora Quoirin, 15, just yards from jungle eco-resort in Malaysia | Daily Mail Online

I sure hope they have searched every single room, inside and out. Like every single one. It's possible she might still be there.

 

[Jealoushe]

If they lost the scent 100 yards out it tells me she either got in a car or was picked up and carried at that point.

 

[scumbellina]

From RTÉ
Nóra Quoirin disappearance - what we know so far
Nóra Quoirin disappearance - what we know so far

 

[HayLouise]

Nora Quoirin: Malaysia investigates fingerprints in missing London teen's holiday cottage

 

[HayLouise]

Nora Quoirin search police find mystery fingerprints

 

[Suglo]

If they lost the scent 100 yards out it tells me she either got in a car or was picked up and carried at that point.

Not necessarily. We’ve seen many instances where the dogs either lost the scent or never found it yet the missing person/child was found in the general vicinity. Dogs are not infallible especially because their handlers are humans.

 

[bmacmillan1]

I understand the parents must be frantic but am feeling sorry for the Malaysian police force too - they seem to be working around the clock trying to find her. Am sure they have turned the hotel upsidedown - where on earth is she?

 

[jenn83]

Nora Quoirin search police find mystery fingerprints

This article says her siblings are 12 and 8 so that's now answered.

 

[AnnesCuthberts]

The timeline from RTE is helping me so far, my brain was getting a bit muddled as time has passed.

Thank you!! This is why I don't usually post when I haven't followed the entirety of the thread. Lesson learned.

The same as me usually! It's a learning process

 

[HayLouise]

Jon Williams‏Verified account @WilliamsJon

Police in #Malaysia searching for missing Irish teen #NoraQuoirin “looking at all angles, including foul play”.

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[dotr]

If they lost the scent 100 yards out it tells me she either got in a car or was picked up and carried at that point.

Maybe a motor bike/scooter pulled in near the resort? Nora would be easy to subdue, silence, and be scooped up, especially if she was in a deep sleep.
imo, speculation.

 

[Jealoushe]

Not necessarily. We’ve seen many instances where the dogs either lost the scent or never found it yet the missing person/child was found in the general vicinity. Dogs are not infallible especially because their handlers are humans.

Well that was JMO of what has happened, of course errors can be made.

Do you have any examples where that happened though? I would be interested in reading because that seems like a huge fail for a scent dog if the missing person was located so close by.

 

[Simply Southern]

It's ok to say "there's a strange review over on Trip Advisor", but we can't link to/quote specific reviews as obviously they can't be validated!

After reading the average and below, not some where I would feel comfortable staying. JMOO

 

[andalso]

Well that was JMO of what has happened, of course errors can be made.

Do you have any examples where that happened though? I would be interested in reading because that seems like a huge fail for a scent dog if the missing person was located so close by.

Blaze Bernstein is an example.

Body Of Missing College Student Found At Borrego Park
"Bernstein's body was discovered at approximately 2 p.m. in the brush surrounding (Borrego) park," Orange County Sheriff's Department, Chief of Police Services Lt. Brad Valentine told Patch Wednesday. Though that area was searched on foot and with search and rescue dogs on and off since last Thursday, the body was not discovered until after Tuesday's rainfall. Valentine declined to comment about the condition of Blaze's body when found, but added that "the rain did help us with locating him."

 

[Suglo]

Well that was JMO of what has happened, of course errors can be made.

Do you have any examples where that happened though? I would be interested in reading because that seems like a huge fail for a scent dog if the missing person was located so close by.

These are two recent ones that I remember. Kenneth Howard in Kentucky and Amanda Eller in Hawaii.

Found Safe - KY - Kenneth Howard, 22mths, Salyersville, 12 May 2019

HI - HI - Amanda Eller, 35, Trail near Makawao, Maui, 8 May 2019

 

[HayLouise]

Lucie Blackman Trust‏ @MissingAbroad

Statement from family of Nora Quoirin - #missing in #Sermban #Malaysia

Lucie Blackman Trust on Twitter