Marauding pit bulls attack six - 10 year old boy, Critical

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Hbgchick said:
The dogs themselves are not the problem. It is the irresponsible owners and the people who train them to attack and fight that are the problem.


The owners exploit this breed's predisposition for violence. They have a rep for turning on humans. They seem to be wired that way. I would never trust one.

This child lived at this home, right? He was climbing over his own fence -- why didn't the dog recognize him/ his scent? My dad was a veterinarian. He believed that once a dog, any dog, any breed, crossed the line and bit a human being, it should be put down, no questions asked. Even a good trained watchdog should only go so far as necessary to warn someone off, before attacking. IMO.

My youngest has been attacked twice by dogs, in the face. Luckily scars were minimal and he healed really well. I will never forget how cavalier the dog owners were about this, in both cases. He was only 3 the first time and 4 1/2 the next, and no, he didn't provoke the dogs. He was just the wrong height and a friendly little boy. The Dalmation that bit him was leashed at the time and the owners didn't even apologize. Ou physician said many bites in kids are caused by Dalmations, which surprised me. My son had just seen the movie.

This same son of mine (now 13) has a friend with a pit bull. Given his history with dog bites, I do not even want him at the kid's house, even though my son swears it is a nice dog. I would never trust a pit bull. Never.

For the life I me, I do not know why people don't get it through their heads that pit bulls should not be pets.

Eve
 
eve said:
. Our physician said many bites in kids are caused by Dalmations, which surprised me.
Chihuahua's bite more that pitbulls or Dalmations- but biting and ripping someones throat out is not the same thing.

This breed bites to kill.
 
Casshew said:
I and glad I live where this breed is BANNED! :hand:


A 10-year-old boy was in critical condition Sunday after three pit bulls escaped from a home and went on a rampage, attacking six people before police shot and killed dogs, authorities said.

Neighbors said the attacks started late Saturday afternoon when children going door-to-door for a fund-raiser arrived at the home of Scott Sword, 41, who owned the dogs.

"We had music playing, and I heard this bizarre sound," said Debby Rivera, who lives three houses away. "I looked out the window, and I saw a young boy. The dogs were just jumping on him."

"The screams were horrible," she said. The dogs were "relentless, like they were possessed."

The pit bulls attacked the two children, and when the dogs' owner tried to stop them, the dogs turned on him and bit off his thumb, Nygren said. The boy's father also tried to protect his son and was attacked. The dogs went after another neighbor as well.

"The scene sprawled over a couple blocks; it was a very chaotic scene," said Lt. Michael Douglas of the Cary Fire Protection District.

Residents threw rocks at the dogs and honked car horns to try to distract them from attacking before police arrived and shot the animals.

Jim Malone said he and a neighbor tried to beat the dogs back with baseball bats. "He'd hit them, they'd run, and they'd come back," Malone said. "This went on for 15 minutes."

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/11/06/pit.bulls.ap/index.html
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Casshew,they are banned where I live also.There was a case where` a person in our city was dog sitting a Pit,Rottwieler (sp) and one other dog.They escaped from the yard and mauled an elderly man who died after surgery.The people caring for the dogs were charged.I cannot understand why people want this breed.Oh they are sweet if raised right~Yeah right! tell that to someone who has been mauled..
 
I always get puppies. I do not adopt full grown dogs. Our collie was purchased as a pup. Bonnie was perfect the day we brought her home. We had to go out that night and introduced her to the baby sitter. When we came home, she told us that Bonnie had gone to lay under the crib when she put our 18 month old to sleep. She never left until we got home. If it were just me in the car with her, she wouldn't have reacted that way, just when the boys were there. Once, I left her to go to a neighbor to play cards. The men were gathering at my house to watch football and were just coming up the walk when I walked out. Next think I know, they came over and said that Bonnie wouldn't let them in the house. She was at the door barking at them. Never tried to attack, but just wouldn't let them in. She knew the neighbors, but still, said they couldn't come in unless I said it was ok. Once I did that, she made a pest of herself wanting them all to pet her and feed her nibbles. Definietly not the same reaction as that what happened to that little boy.

By the way, earlier stories on the little Colorado boy, show that the dogs had been there only about a week. They left those dogs in the backyard with no adult home. The little boy was often locked out of the house when he came home from school. I would imagine his normal behavior was to go to the backyard of his own home.

Absolutely irresponsible owners. No doubt in my mind about that. There were also puppies in the house according to the news.
 
Casshew said:
Chihuahua's bite more that pitbulls or Dalmations- but biting and ripping someones throat out is not the same thing.

This breed bites to kill.
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Casshew you hit the nail on the head.They bite to kill.They have also been known to turn on their Master after having a good upbringing..as in being raised from 5 weeks.Their jaws lock and it's over.I dont care what anyone says I would not have one near my greatgrandson!!
 
Casshew said:
Chihuahua's bite more that pitbulls or Dalmations- but biting and ripping someones throat out is not the same thing.

This breed bites to kill.
I absolutely agree 100%. And as Nore said, those jaws lock and you just don't get them open.
 
Nore said:
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Casshew you hit the nail on the head.They bite to kill.They have also been known to turn on their Master after having a good upbringing..as in being raised from 5 weeks.Their jaws lock and it's over.I dont care what anyone says I would not have one near my greatgrandson!!

This is the problem, they have no "loyalty" -- pit bulls are known to turn on their own masters -- they are wired for fighting no matter how they're raised and will revert to this kind of behavior with no visible provocation. They are unpredictable and have a propensity for violence and when they go for it, they go for the throat, literally.

Eve
 
was buried today in Cleveland Ohio.His father is under arrest.The (so called) father scalded the boy with hot water,threw him in the basement with I beliieve it was 6 Pit Bulls.The boy died at Metro hospital.I hope this "father" (I want to swear) gets life in prison or better yet hope it can go death penalty. Oh I have to! Dirty Ba*#%^d
 
Nore said:
was buried today in Cleveland Ohio.His father is under arrest.The (so called) father scalded the boy with hot water,threw him in the basement with I beliieve it was 6 Pit Bulls.The boy died at Metro hospital.I hope this "father" (I want to swear) gets life in prison or better yet hope it can go death penalty. Oh I have to! Dirty Ba*#%^d
Good Lord.
 
BarnGoddess said:
Hearing that said over and over, I still don't think Pit Bulls need to be kept as pets in the city. Supposedly these dogs were not trained to be attack or fighting dogs, but just "pets". Over and over, we hear of so much destruction and heartache these dogs cause.

Notice these attacks seem to happen when there are more than one pit bull in the household. Sometimes it could be one pit bull, but dogs of other breeds in the house. To trust them around children is just asking for it.

I know all dogs can bite, but pit bulls have the reputation for vicious and continuing attacks that lead to death. Why not get a dog with a milder bred personality, especially with children in the home.

Years ago we had a beautiful female collie for our two young boys. She played with them, guarded them, pulled them out of the street and pushed them home when I called them in for meals. She went everywhere with us. Once a young kid put his face up against the car window and said something like "hiya dog" and since the boys were in the back seat with her, she let this kid know that he needed to back off. Never tried to bite, but she held her ground between the boys and bared her teeth until he left. Yet she never did it when all the neighborhood kids were out playing with her. Even little squabbles, she'd try to "settle" in her gentle way. Collies, labs, retrievers can be wonderful family pets. Why on earth would someone buy a pit bull for a family dog, when these other large breeds can make better pets?
I have 4 Great Danes, and they are all extremely gentle with children. They just don't have an aggressive bone in them. I don't understand why people even have pit bulls. Even though my children are older teenagers, I STILL wouldn't trust having one in my home. They might seem alright but it seems they "snap" and become dangerous. No way would I want one in my neighborhood. My next door neighbor had one 5 years ago. It jumped the fence and attacked the 2 Danes I had at the time. They fought her off and I managed to open the gate to get her out. Luckily my dogs had no serious wounds. That dog later hung itself when my neighbor kept her on a chain, and it tried to go over the fence to another neighbor's yard. Occasionally someone forgets to close my gate and my dogs will get out, but it's nothing for a 6 year old see them and to bring them home. All the kids around me know my dogs. As much as I love animals, I was not sorry the pit bull died. I worried that the dog would jump the fence and attack a child one day. Don't think I've ever heard of a case of a Great Dane attacking. With all of mine all you have to say is "Boo" to them and they run and hide, such big wussies!!

I adopted one of my Danes as a 3 year old. He's the sweetest of all, even after being severely abused by his previous owner. So a lot has to do with temperament of the breed.
 
i am so sick to death of this "ohh, the poor little puppies, they are so misunderstood"... BS i could puke. and i'm an animal (esp dog) lover!!!

the problem may be the people, BUT ULTIMATELY THE PROBLEM IS STILL THE DOGS. it is the dogs that are attacking people (& other dogs/animals) and tearing them to shreds in the end, am i right? so, therefore, that is the problem.

it's true that we now unfortunately have a country full of anti-social, drug-dealing, drug-using, ghettofied, white trash/back trash/trailer trash/ whatever-trash thugs & 🤬🤬🤬🤬 wanna be's who train them to be vicious, breed them indiscriminately, fight them and don't socialize them... so the problem IS with these idiotic people. BUT THE PROBLEM IS- ALSO- STILL THE DOGS.

yes, of course there are some nice sweet pit bulls out there. but the fact is, PIT BULLS ARE STILL A PROBLEM!

the fact that pit bull-defenders are in total denial of is that CERTAIN DOGS WERE BRED TO DO CERTAIN THINGS. PIT BULLS WERE BRED TO FIGHT AND KILL. THAT IS WHY THEY HAVE BIG STRONG JAWS & ARE ALL MUSCLE. SO YES, THEY HAVE A GENETIC PREDISPOSITION TO FIGHT TO KILL. THAT'S THE QUALITY THAT WAS BRED TO BE HARD-WIRED INTO THEIR BRAINS AND BODIES. (i can just hear a crowd whining now, "shut up, it is NOT!")

and, that is why so many of them SNAP without warning and attack other dogs & people, and cannot be stopped until their "prey" is dead.

there are countless stories such as the following one i am about to tell you:

a dog rescue person i know of HAD RAISED A PIT BULL FROM BIRTH to be sweet, loving, docile, etc. etc. etc... and it just adored her other dog, an old one she had for 14 years.. they were best buddies. one day without warning, she came home and found her old dog on the floor, near dead, bleeding everywhere, after being mauled by the pit bull. the PB stood there like, "oops, what did i do??" she had to put her older dog to sleep.

and of course, this is what happens to peoples' children.

i have also been in my vets several times when someone was dropping off or picking up their dog for surgery, after being mauled by one of these things. NOT a pretty sight.

my question is, with all the wonderful dogs out there, WHY on earth do you need a freaking pit bull, of all things?? why go looking for trouble?

the fact is, most people have them to look tough and scary, and because it's controversial and rebellious. AND because they ARE capable of doing serious damage.

the rest of the people are in denial just because they feel sorry for the dogs, and perhaps have one of their own who happens to be very sweet & harmless.

human beings could very easily breed out the viciousness and physical ability to do major harm out of these dogs, and keep their good qualities, if we made a concentrated effort- it IS possible, in theory. but the fact is, there's soo many idiots out there who keep breeding their fighting dogs to be more & more vicious... and there's just too d*mn many of these dogs out there now... so i don't think that's going to happen.
 
by the way, i hope they ban them where i live (and any other vicious fighting-type dogs a 🤬🤬🤬🤬 would want).. sorry, but i would be all for it, even though i have 3 rescued dogs. the local dog pounds are just overflowing with PB's, no wonder they have to put so many down every day? what, are they supposed to find homes for them all??? yeah, right.

of course, it would take a few kids getting shredded to death before that would ever happen.

it should also be a crime to breed them, in my not-so-humble opinion!
 
reb said:
, PIT BULLS WERE BRED TO FIGHT AND KILL. THAT IS WHY THEY HAVE BIG STRONG JAWS & ARE ALL MUSCLE. SO YES, THEY HAVE A GENETIC PREDISPOSITION TO FIGHT TO KILL. THAT'S THE QUALITY THAT WAS BRED TO BE HARD-WIRED INTO THEIR BRAINS AND BODIES. (i can just \, loving, docile, etc. etc. etc... and it just adored her other dog, an old

human beings could very easily breed out the viciousness and physical ability to do major harm out of these dogs, and keep their good qualities, if we made a concentrated effort- it IS possible, in theory. but the fact is, there's soo many idiots out there who keep breeding their fighting dogs to be more & more vicious... and there's just too d*mn many of these dogs out there now... so i don't think that's going to happen.
I agree 100%. It was done to Great Danes. Ages ago Danes were used as guard/attack/watch dogs. The aggressive behavior was BRED out of them so that the majority of them are gentle, docile family pets. As I stated in my previous post, I have never heard about a Great Dane attacking or mauling anyone. Imagine what a dog that size could do to a person if it had aggressive behavior! The lightest weight Dane I have is about 140#, my big baby Kong is just under 160#.
 
i think a lot of large breed dogs were bred to just LOOK imposing, but not necessarily to do a lot of harm, am i right?

it kills me when people say "more poodles bite than any other dog"... well, DUH, maybe so but how many have you heard about ripping someone's face off?? LOL! please! or grouping together in a pack and attacking a child? can you imagine? kind of funny to think about... the poor kid might even have to get a few band-aids out! LOL!
 
reb said:
by the way, i hope they ban them where i live (and any other vicious fighting-type dogs a 🤬🤬🤬🤬 would want).. sorry, but i would be all for it, even though i have 3 rescued dogs. the local dog pounds are just overflowing with PB's, no wonder they have to put so many down every day? what, are they supposed to find homes for them all??? yeah, right.

of course, it would take a few kids getting shredded to death before that would ever happen.

it should also be a crime to breed them, in my not-so-humble opinion!
In many places if it's a PB it's automatically put down. They're not adoptable.
 
In the city where I live, the SPCA will spay or neuter anyone's pit bulls and pit bull mixes for no charge. It is an attempt to reduce the backyard breeding of this breed. Accidental breeding and backyard breeders are the source for most of the dangerous pit bulls around here. Less PB puppies, less PB's. Hopefully this free program will spread to other cities throughout the country.
 
and believe me, it IS sad for the dog, i do feel sorry for them and the sorry predicament that human stupidity has put them in. in the pound i have seen the sad faces of the "condemned", they know they are on "the list".. and it breaks your heart. however, there are many other dogs in there that are much more desirable, dependable, and safe to have as a pet. at least, the pits are not going to be neglected, abused, or have to suffer any more.
 
sadie-
WOW,, too bad cities don't have free spaying/neutering for ALL cats & dogs!!

btw, any plans to have a program like this for humans.........??
 
TheShadow said:
In the city where I live, the SPCA will spay or neuter anyone's pit bulls and pit bull mixes for no charge. It is an attempt to reduce the backyard breeding of this breed. Accidental breeding and backyard breeders are the source for most of the dangerous pit bulls around here. Less PB puppies, less PB's. Hopefully this free program will spread to other cities throughout the country.
Free or not, the people breeding those dogs to fight aren't interested in that. They're in it for the money! I doubt it would decrease the number of dogs being bred for fighting purposes.
 
Nore said:
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Casshew you hit the nail on the head.They bite to kill.They have also been known to turn on their Master after having a good upbringing..as in being raised from 5 weeks.Their jaws lock and it's over.I dont care what anyone says I would not have one near my greatgrandson!!


Absolutely. The dog can be hand raised from birth and there is absolutely no way to know that he won't turn and bite one day. They're a completely unnecessary breed.
 
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