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I think that KC is guilty. I think she murdered Caylee out of being nothing but selfish. Life was about KC and KC only.

I think that CA lived her life knowing that KC was a child headed for trouble but would not let anyone around her know. I think CA is a helicopter parent. She wanted to look perfect and resented KC for making her perfect family look less than perfect.

I think that GA caused some pain in his familys life and CA was never going to let him forget it. So he lived life walking on eggshells. He knows the truth and carrying it around with himself has caused great physical and emotional distress.

I think LA knew, knows and he is cooperating with LE. I think that he is angry at KC for putting his parents through the worst thing anyone could ever go through.

I truly feel terrible for the Anthonys. It does not matter to me that they may have caused/added to their own emotional hell. They are living life in the spot light of us all. Nothing they do will ever be right for those who watch them under that spot light. If they choose not to speak they are critized. IF they choose to speak they are considered people who want the attention.


I think they should let KC sit in her own mess. Cut her loose. Stop hovering over her and treating her with kid gloves. Mourn, grieve, be angry and let her sit in her own misery.
 
Mr. Klaas, thank you for all the good work you do for families confronted with the most horrific of horrors. I admire how you've drawn on your personal tragedy--and am so, so sorry you first endured that. I can only imagine your deep pain, and wish it were not so.

The Anthony family was composed of dyads and triads that were played against one another--largely by Casey. This pairing/grouping means that no one member (other than, perhaps, Casey) was privy to all of the secrets. This served Casey very, very well over the years.

Caylee was unanticipated,but welcomed by her grandparents and adored. Despite their unadulterated love for her, there were frustrations. They'd anticipated an empty nest, and looked forward to a life without the chaos Casey created.

But the tumult only grew. Casey would not work. She would not accept full responsibility for her child. They couldn't rely on her to consistently parent the little girl they adored.

They were stuck, and of course there was some resentment about that. Not of Caylee, but of the situation.

Casey's problems began far earlier in life than anyone will admit at this point; early photographs of her show the same sort of disconnect with humans that she now has. She smiles for the camera with unfeeling eyes, she is uncomfortable in their embrace (see the pic with Shirley and Cindy).

Casey is a sociopath. The Anthony family M.O. has shifted between placating her ("Hello, beautiful"), controlling her, and benign neglect. The latter was demonstrated during Casey's absence from the home in June. In all likelihood, sheer exhaustion prevented them for pushing for answers from her--they were likely grateful for the respite from her games even as they missed Caylee. Their controlling, combative adult "child" was gone, and it was a relief. Despite the fact that they disapproved of Casey's parenting at times, they had been given no reason to believe she would harm Caylee, so they used the time as an opportunity to recuperate from the stress of living with a demanding, ungrateful parasite---even though it meant time away from their beloved Caylee.

Nothing the Anthonys did or did not do caused Casey to become what she did. Nothing they did or did not do caused Caylee's death. Their inaction in June and July had no meaningful effect on the situation--Caylee was dead long before any concern arose.

Nevertheless, the Anthonys blame themselves for Caylee's death. It came on the heels of a family argument. It came at a time when they were happy to have Casey gone from their home. They blame themselves---and the pain causes them to lash out at others. They are at an emotional breaking point, and the guilt they feel for this is likely more than most humans could bear. George, thankfully, has gotten help.

That said, the family is very, very sick. Living with a sociopath is crazy-making, and it's done the job for the Anthonys. I can't even begin to speculate about personality or other mental disorders among them until I see how they evolve with Casey out of their midst. That alone will promote their health (even if they support her in her legal battle). They will likely need more help, but I would not be at all surprised to see their lives normalizing in ways they never anticipated now that Casey is removed. She has been a long-term toxic influence.

Their denial of the horrific protects them from imploding emotionally. They will accept what they are able, as they are able---we've watched as each has had a glimpse of the true horror, and accepted it. Now they have drawn the curtains of self-protection. In time, I think George, at least--and probably Cindy--will accept the truth of the matter and go on to be productive. I think George, in particular, will find meaning. He's been marginalized by the family--perhaps with good cause (we don't really know the whole story)--and his self-esteem had taken a walloping.

Still, we do see genuine warmth and love between him and Cindy, I think. She is an angry woman (see above: living with a sociopath makes you crazy!), but much of her anger has been displaced. I suspect George bore the brunt of the angst that should have been directed to Casey.

I am not sure about Lee. There seems to be some sort of unusual sibling enmeshment, complete with...well, their own dialect, almost. I think Lee's initial eagerness to carry out his own "investigation" was rooted in little-boy-style fantasy, and he was imagining Big Bad Guys and being the hero.

I am sure they'd all prefer that there be Big Bad Guys. I think Lee is FURIOUS that there are not.

I suspect--and this is based on being the daughter of a sociopath--that Caylee was not continually subjected to abuse from Casey. Rather, she probably had periodic moments of confusion when she expected a certain response from Casey that was not forthcoming. I think it is likely that, most of the time, Casey played the mommy role at least superficially appropriately. Caylee may have spent more time watching Nick Jr. than many children, as her mother worked on her important career of Facebooking, MySpacing, texting, and talking on the phone. But in general, she was probably competently, if unfeelingly, cared for by Casey.

George and Cindy filled the emotional void for her. Caylee was loved. Casey was more of a (very) disinterested big sister to Caylee--someone who tolerated her because she had to. At Caylee's young age, this probably had not yet harmed her; as she got older, it would become devastating. (As an adult, she would likely have great difficulty trusting her own evaluations of other people--if there's one thing living with a sociopath can do, it's creating self-doubt about one's own instincts.

As for Casey. It goes without saying I think she's guilty of first degree murder. I think she is devoid of humanity, missing a critical microchip. She not only robbed those around her of real relationships with her--but worse, she worked very, very hard to create the opposite impression. She is very, very, VERY skillful at playing people against one another, as well as assuming the roles that will garner her the things she wishes to have. She is a toxic chameleon.

Caylee's death was premeditated and coldly carried out. It was not an accident. It was not the result of an argument with Cindy. The timing was chosen to best play into the family dynamic in a way that would cause the family to circle the wagons.

Her behavior immediately following the murder shows, with cold, cold clarity, the lack of feeling Casey Anthony has for others. It was movie night! Hooray!

There was little thought given to post-murder actions because Caylee's erasure was the goal. Focus was solely on the murder. Casey was not a brilliant mastermind--she was a child murderer. For this we can be grateful, because it will be what convicts her.
Wow...this has to be one of the most insightful and thought provoking posts I have read. I fully agree with everything you've said.

I think the most baffling aspect of this is KC's affect or lack thereof. Not having up close and personal knowledge of a malignant narcissist/sociopath (truly has to be the most toxic combination), I find it so hard to wrap my brain around her behavior. It is so beyond the pale that I keep finding myself searching for a way to explain it to myself. I do think that the psychiatric community is going be kept busy for decades studying the KC Anthony case. I hope to God they find a way to diagnose and treat this malignancy of character.
 
I think Caylee's death was premeditated. Casey was dancing around with the idea for months, and then the fight or some trigger caused her to do it on the 15th/ 16th of June, possibly tremendous rage towards Cindy.
As for Cindy, I think she has obstructed justice indeed, somehow she feels guilty that she provoked this situation with her attitudes towards her daughter and the mother/daughter dynamics. This tremendous amount of guilt that she feels makes her feel responsible for Caylee's death and somehow feels compelled to help Casey.
George knows, deep in his heart. I feel lots of compassion for him. I think Lee knows EVERYTHING, the "I will not forget the promise that I made to you" reference during the CMA speech says it all, which by the way also freaked me out.
 
I think Casey killed her daughter to spite her mother. I think Casey never wanted to be tied down to a child and her mother basically forced her to keep the baby. Maybe in an attempt to make Casey become more mature and responsible. Casey became more and more resentful of being made to take responsibility that she never wanted. Cindy became more and more frustrated that she couldn't force this responsibility onto Casey. Talk about a powder keg. Battle of the wills ensues, poor little Caylee winds up paying the price.
 
Hi Marc! Please know that I respect you tremendously and want to thank you for your devotion to missing kids and fighting against the evil that terrorizes them!

As for this case,
1. Casey killed her precious daughter because she is, for whatever reason, a sociopath and is disconnected to other human beings.
2. Lee is a huge connection in this case
3. The grandparents are either in complete denial or have a warped understanding of how a family is to stick together
4. This has been a huge media circus and the media has helped keep the circus in town
5. You were wise in stepping back on this case.
 
I think Casey killed Caylee in a fit of rage in the late hours or early hours of the 15th 16th of June. I think the rest of the A's know and have been covering for her almost from the start. And at least 1 of them from the start. The Lee CMA thing....is a glimpse into how truly bazaar this family really is. George is the only one there is any hope for. Cindy and Lee need to be in jail right beside Casey.
 
Marc, I want to start out by saying I have great respect for you and the integrity and grace you display is awesome, considering what you've been through. Please continue to be there for those who need you.
My belief from day one is this was PRE MEDITATED, it was carried out by Casey to inflict pain against anyone who got in her way, she had severe anger issues with her mother and also Caylee for ruining her life. She wanted her freedom but didn't stop and realize that SHE alone was the one that took that option away from herself when she got pregnant. Instead of growing up alittle she begrudgingly played the role of mommy for appearances sake and to be able to take from CA. She didn't move out because she didn't want to work and enjoyed the comfies GA and CA allowed her. She also had a live in babysitter.
The entire family is selfish, GA is the only one who has a heart, and I do believe he's been trying to spare CA the details and reality of the situation.
Lee has me confused now, I believed he was talking to Casey the other day, but the I'm so proud of you, you teach me every day, I thought was for Caylee, now I'm not so sure. He needs to be looked at closer now as does CA.

It's great to have unconditional love for your children, but to skip the teaching and punishment phases leaves one in this predicament they find themrlves in. Most of the time not to these lengths, but KC was deluded into thinking she could do anything and get away with it. When CA finally decided to take the reins and KC saw her party was coming to an end, she spitefully got rid of Caylee.
How she could hate her little one that much is way beyond what I can comprehend. She has an evil heart, as evil as any other cold blooded murderer and I hope the jury sees this part instead of another OJ trial and miscarriage of justice.
IMO CA and GA would have been next if she had gotten away with this. She told enough people she was going to get the house and she would have gone to great lengths to sink the A's. They need to see her for what she really is.

They could have foregone the memorial for Caylee as it was a memorial for Casey instead, outside of GA's comments. Lee and CA both showed a very sick sense of reality.


I also think we are in for more surprises before this goes to trial.
 
hello to mr klaas, thank you for joining us here. i am grateful that you speak for victims and victims families. my deepest sorrow goes to you for how you were brought in.

my thoughts about the case
casey killed caylee, in a fit of anger. maybe the baby was crying for her cici. i don't know what the trigger was. the baby was getting old enough to know who she wanted to be with, and when she felt safe. she was also getting old enough to start telling jojo or cici if she was made to sleep in the car. i believe le has the case wrapped up.

the family is a whole other discussion..
 
First, I would like to share my feelings of admiration for Mr. Klass and how he handled the murder of his beautiful daughter, and now is doing so much to help other missing children.
So many people have said exactly what I think, esp. okiedokie and LancelotLink. Thank you both for being more articulate than I.
That said, I think that the dysfunction in the Anthony family has been there a long time, and we have seen only the tip of the iceberg. I think the Anthony's are 4 very damaged people who have spent years telling secrets, keeping secrets, playing one off the other, covering up and denying. I believe Caey and Cindy almost have a sort of folie a deux. Cindy is obviously very controlling, fixated on presenting the image of a perfect family, and I am sure that caused tremendous friction between she and Casey.
I do not believe that George is an innocent in this. His background in LE told him from the get go something was wrong, yet he allowed himself to be bullied into ignoring the obvious smell of human decomp, lying publicly on national TV, and participating in the sick charade of possible Caylee sightings. I really had hope that he was a stand up guy after testifying to the grand jury, but his actions after that were dismaying, to say the least.
Lee is a very strange ranger, not wrapped too tightly, and I got chills with the CMA thing at the memorial. I do believe that his "investigation" was nothing more than an attempt to lead LE away from Casey.
Casey, it goes without saying, is evil. No other word to describe it. I believe she intentionally killed Caylee, in a rage, and casually went on with her life, as if nothing ever happened.
I find it frightening that a family would go to such extremes as 31 days, not reporting the car smell,cleaning the car, removing/washing clothing, failing to provide LE immediately with receipts, hairbrushes, anything they asked for very telling. I cannot accept that this is denial. It is intentional obfustification.
I could go on and on, but I will wrap this up. I do not believe the phrase "grieving grandparents" for a minute, and I honestly believe that, in retrospect, that Cindy wishes she had never called 911. The Anthony's could have cleaned up, covered up, kept up the front until the end of time.
And lost in all this? A beautiful little girl, who never got to experience all that God had hoped for her when He made her.
MOO
 
My feelings on this case are very confused (like i believe many peoples are) Because I just cant comprehend any of this happening.

I have believed from the start that KC is responsible.. I believe the duct tape was placed on Caylee when she was alive in a fit of rage.. It makes me ill to think of this happening..
To me it doesnt matter if she meant to kill her or not at that point.. she should get the same punishment.. LWOP.... Because she was responsible for the death..

I dont think KC will ever admit her quilt.. I think major evidence will come up that proves she did and she will try to explain it away in other ways..

I think the whole A family has been making excuses and explaining away things for KC for a very long time..
I feel one thing that shows this is thier dislike of Jesse.. who did nothing wrong but love their daughter and grand daughter...
I think the reason they dislike Jesse so much is because he didnt believe KC that Caylee was his child.. and had the test done.. Its like the A's dont like anyone that questions what they say.. or what KC says...So even after it was proven that JG was not the father he was not liked because he brought kc's lie to light.

In watching the dynamics of this family for the last several months.. I would be surprised if even if given proof that KC did it.. that CA will accept that proof.. She will want to still explain it away.. example would be.. someone got Caylees things from the house that were with the remains.. or got the duct tape from KC's car which had the finger prints on it from before.. etc etc etc....
GA will quietly accept the fact that KC did it... but not sure if he will publically say that.. or how all that will affect his marriage..

I think LA is very angry.. Im not sure if he yet believes KC did it or not.. but I think when He does accept it.. His anger will turn on KC in a big way.. I dont think he will want to make excuses for this one..

I think the truth will put an even bigger strain on this family and eventually tear it completely apart.
I do feel very sad for all of the family (excluding KC) .. I do not condone their actions but believe they truely loved Caylee, and have been put in a situation that is a nightmare.
 
I think that KC had thought about what life would be like without Caylee for some time and maybe even put some thought into how she could get out from under motherhood. I believe she couldn't bring herself to turn over custody to CA because of the pressure CA put on KC to be the perfect mother. I think that KC made the decision to end Caylees life based on the fact that she was the one that decided to give Caylee life so she had every right to end it. I see that KC is very detached when it comes to bonding with anyone. LA seems like a very strange duck to me and may have some deep underlying issues that may or maynot come out through trial but none the less seemed to speak more to KC at the service than to Caylee. CA needs to drop the perfect family act..doesn't exsist and I hope GA continues his treatment. He seems like a very fragile soul and may come out of this a stronger person or destroyed. In KC's own words..regardless of how it happened..I believe this was KC and KC alone that killed Caylee and then tried to go on with her life like nothing had happened, like Caylee had never been born. She figured if she believed it that it would be true and that she could make excuses for the rest of her life or until something happened to change the situation. She had considered leaving Florida but needed a man to take her away from all of it. She might have considered the possibility of TL moving her to New York or going to Calif. to start a new life with the serviceman and in the meantime scouting the internet for a new prospect. Her plans failed by the mear fact that she ran out of time and CA finally came in and ruined everything...
 
Mr. Klaas my prayers and thoughts have been with you since hearing of Polly's abduction. I live in Northern California and I along with the nation was so sorry to hear about what happened. Thank you for your tireless work for missing children.

My opinion of the Anthony case is:

Since I first heard the Zanni the Nanny story and the 31 days I have believed that KC killed Caylee. Originally I thought it was an accident, that she was drugged and left in the car and died. Once KC was bailed out her behavior made it appaer that the child had been murdered by her due to her complete lack of cooperation and lies.

The drama that the family brought has been totally unnecessary. I see a severley disfunctional faimly who reacted to a tragedy in a dysfunctional way. I feel they are covering up for KC now and attempted to obstruct justice by shielding the truth from law enforcement.

I feel very sorry for the faimly but no sympathy for KC. She is not worthy to walk among us. I think CA has relished the attention and that her domineering and relationship with KC and Caylee were the ingredients that made this circus.
 
I believe KC is guilty. She acted alone.
KC response to CA "everyone lives, everyone dies" is as close to a confession as you will get from KC.
I don't understand moving the car from the tow yard. George's previouse experience must have alerted him to call LE. KC and Caylee have been missing. When the car
gets to the house, CA smelled it also. I think this is when they both loss touch with reality. The idea of something happening to KC or Caylee was too horrific.
I think they are ridden with guilt of what/how could they have prevented this.
LA gives me goosebumps. He seems to be all over the place. Junior PI, protector of his sister, involved then not involved with the case. Code talk.
I am over CA and LA. I think they did obstruct justice. I will never understand how the focus left Caylee and went to KC. I doubt any charges will be brought up, but they should.
I flip flop on GA. He knew better than to move the car from the tow yard. Suicide attempt, not really sold on that. I think he knew he needed some professional help, and this was the only way he know to get it, without CA shutting him down. I do believe he knows more than we are aware of. GA needs to act on his actions without outside influence. I beleive GA has been trying to protect CA from the reality of all KC has created. CA seems to be the contoller of all.
This case is incredible. Every day it seems to be a new twist and turn. I finally have come to terms that I don't care what CA or LA has to say or do. If LA has enough or want to arrest good for them. JB experience or lack of, don't care. If this was a true issue, think the courts would handle it. Profiiting from selling pictures of Caylee. Yes, I do care. This is so wrong. Even though KC has not been to trial, is she or JB selling them. Can a court order stop the profitiing of a murdered child? The case is about justice to Caylee.
 
I believe that the reason Casey hid her pregnancy for so long was because it was in fact Lee's child. Cay, for Casey, and Lee for Lee. I believe that she was tired of all the attention that everyone was paying to that beautiful baby and out of rage at her mother, killed her. She then flipped out and called Lee who she could tell anything to, and he helped her cover it up. I do not believe that George knew until the documents came out that this child perhaps was concieved this way.I believe when he heard about the sticker and everything else, he just lost it. He loves his daughter and he dearly loved his granddaughter.Cindy, on the other hand "may" have known about the way her granddaughter had been concieved and to keep people from judging her, she covered up this information as well.When she found out what had happened, she felt guilty and felt like she pushed Casey to this the night before. She acts like such a loving, supportive mother to Casey, yet all we have heard was that these two were always arguing and fighting with each other.Out of grief and guilt , she is trying to make herself feel better.At the memorial, you could tell 100 % that Lee was talking about Casey.He didn't even have a Caylee button on.Everyone else did, even the other speakers(pastors, etc. ). He was not speaking like he was talking to someone who was no longer with us, but to someone that is .It took alot for George to testify at the Grand Jury, and yet he knew it was the right thing to do and all he wanted was his granddaughter, by miracle, to still be alive. I am not anti-Cindy, nor am I trying to bash her, I just think that both of these women are very strong-willed, jealous women who want things to always be their way.I pray that this family can get some deep counseling to work on alot of problems that they have obviously had for quite a while. Who knows what was said that night, maybe in a fit of rage, Cindy threatened to tell everyone that Lee was really the baby's father, and who would think she was so hot then? Casey would've freaked.She thought she was Ms. Thing. There was no way that she was going to let that happen, and since Lee was the one telling LE about that fight, he may have figured that if he didn't hide being a witness to this fight, noone would question him further about what was really said during it.I may be totally off, but day in and day out, this case has consumed my heart and I've tried looking at every different angle.This is what I think in my opinion.
 
No matter how much I cannot comprehend a mother killing her child,
Casey drove around in a car that contained evidence of decomposition and a death band on a hair; both matching Caylee.
Then, not only did she not report her missing, she parties and shops using stolen checks.

George being a former police officer, should never have driven the car from the tow yard.
He smelled decomposition and should have called 911 immediately.

Cindy should not have washed clothes or cleaned the car out.
She also shouldn't have given the wrong hairbrush when asked for Caylee's.

Lee went to Tony's to get Casey's belongings and took over 2 hrs.
When he came back, Casey's laptop was wiped clean.

The whole family have claimed Casey's innocence and yet they have all manipulated
evidence.
Why would you need to do so if she is truly innocent?

None of them gave Tim Miller an article of Caylee's clothing to help with the search because they would only accept people looking for a "live" Caylee.

And last, none of the family have any right to be advocates for other missing children unless it's to tell victim's families "What NOT to do when a child goes missing."
 
IMO:
Caylee died on her mother's watch, while KC was playing the role of "Zanny the Nanny"
(something I believe she did often to make herself feel better about her life-my best guess is that she drowned in the family pool while KC searched the house for cash/valuables for her "desperate situation")

KC, being of a different "wiring" than most, kept her daughter in the trunk for some time before discarding her in a "comfortable" "familiar" place.

GA, CA, and LA are not at fault for anything but enabling their troubled family member.

I expect KC to be found guilty at trial.

I expect the family to use their new found celebrity to continue a mission for missing children.
 
Ditto to all theories on the death of Caylee and the copability ofthe family. There are many threads from the beginning to now on our theories. If you are reading here I want to commend you on how you have accepted your new responsibilities with the path you are on today. I had mixed emotions upon hereing GA's decision on helping Halliegh's family, concerned this was premature after his suicide attemp. You came on TV and stated you felt the same as me after I gave it more thought. Another talking head stated GA should be monitered by his current therapist during his time of helping another family. Now I ask you, how long did it take for you to be able to move forward out of such grief before you could function in a business type way, felt more put together to be able to talk straight into a camera, start a foundation. If I remember correctly you could hardly make a sentence to reporters, the way you stuttered to find words broke my heart. You have become so confident with the knowledge you've had learned & quite a dapper man at that. Before Polly's death I bet you didn't see yourself as the man you've become to date. Polly must be so proud! The way you and your ex-wife handled your trauma in front of the cameras in such a raw stae of mind was so gracious. The reason I ask these questions from you is it appears the A's aren't as authentic in their actions after Caylee's supposed disappearance & now with the news that a homicde has occured. It is almost like the family is playing a role for the public. The ease with the way GA approached the media at the Cummings house took me back a bit. Thats why I ask you & the club of parents you find yourself with now, how long did it take you to rebound before you could help another. If you speak to John Walsh I would like to know his thoughts as well. Well wishes from my family to yours. Stay strong in your fight for our missing children & if W/S can help send questions are way. You are the light at the end of a tunnel for those children who's voices have been taken away!
 
I think KC killed Caylee intentionally, IMO it was no accident.
I think CA is the root of the dysfunction within the Anthony family.
I think CA has spent a lot of time cleaning up after her daughter.
I think the whole Anthony family has NO problems when it comes to telling a lie.
I think KC learned how to lie and manipulate from her mother.
I think there is a LOT more to this story that we have yet to hear.
 
I forgot one thing,
I wanted to say to Mr. Klass that I so respect your strength, honesty and integrity. You are a WONDERFUL advocate for those unable to speak, THANK YOU !
 

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