Mariah Carey’s Disaster Performance on New Year’s Eve 2017

[gregjrichards]

There are several references to the crowd being drunk or blasted. FYI, it is illegal to drink in public in NYC and security is at an all time high. Just for those who actually believe the majority of the crowd was drinking.
I would feel bad for Mariah if she were the least bit likeable and not a total diva. If you wanted a holiday you should have said no and went the heck on holiday. I think you could have managed to afford it!

I don't know why she agreed to do this unpaid gig and didn't just stay in Aspen. TMZ States Mariah was not being paid for this gig.

 

[dotr]

http://ew.com/tv/2017/01/02/mariah-carey-nye-what-really-happened/

[h=1]Mariah Carey team: Here’s what really happened[/h]

Mariah Carey’s team is fed up with feeling attacked and is ready to candidly elaborate on what exactly happened during the singer’s infamous performance on Dick Clark’s New Year’s Rockin’ Eve with Ryan Seacrest. Below Carey’s manager Stella Bulochnikov, who was by the singer’s side at the event, runs through what went down Saturday in detail to try and clear up the conflicting accounts about the ABC performance — which was marred by the singer’s audio issues.

“Her in-ears do not work, it’s choppy, we need new ears for the performance.” She said, “Those are not the ears she’ll be working with for the performance. The ears she will be working with are in the trailer.” We went to the trailer at 10:45. She did touch-ups because she’s supposed to go on at 11:38. We put in the ears and did the mic pack. We walked to the holding tent about 11:20. We told both stage managers — remember this is not our production team, we’re out-sourcing our team which we never do — we told them the mic pack is not working. She can’t hear it, it’s faint. They brought her a new one, and that one didn’t work either, the mic pack was dead. They changed the battery pack. She said she still couldn’t hear. The second stage manager said, “It doesn’t work here in the tent, it will work on the stage.” She said, “Great, let’s go to the stage.” It’s now four minutes to showtime. She says, “I hear nothing in my ears, my ears are dead.” The other stage manager says, “It will work right when we go live.”

 

[rosemadderlake]

Just mo I think this is cause she is so addicted to showing her range- i am into female vocalists. But from day one , it always sounded like she just sticks in runs for no other reason that she can.

IMO runs need to add to the meaning - not just thrown in . I think that is why her music has always been agitating to me - wail away my dear when the song calls for it, (typically at the end) in the place the material needs- dont just go off screeching in the middle of every verse - its quite annoying!!!!!!!!!!

Every track of Vicki Sue's fades were incredible - she throws dust to the wind and scants!! Ad lib!

moo

Totally agree on gratuitous notes and runs.

That said, imo: Mariah Carey had some amazing pipes with phenomenal control, big range, and special chest to falsetto qualities. Her lower register and tone is gorgeous. Her mother, an opera singer and voice coach, trained her early so all this was second nature at a very young age. She burst on the scene as a phenom.

I really like her early R&B music where I feel she is emotionally authentic. The woman's catalog is huge and spans decades. Not sure if she is addicted to showcasing her range as much as it is what she and her manager's think her audience expect? I think she's worn her pipes out. -And she obviously can't reach those signature high notes.

So the end result is a formerly great singer lip-syncing those notes which is really kind of sad. Especially when songs can be arranged differently to accommodate an authentic live performance.

Don't think you'd hear that in Aretha Franklin, or Patti La Belle, who both managed to age and keep their essence in performing live. -imo.

 

[Sherlock Homie]

So are we talking about MORE than one FU on the production peoples fault?

Or to put it another way they got 66% of their job wrong?

The Lang sang song or whatever it is called (makes me want to slit my wrists!) was awful IMO was that totally live ??

Why cant I just sing along in the lower key and let the track be the higher key - do they have to match as far as the audience goes? Would any of us, non pros, really "hear" any of this??

Can she sue them??

So cool to "talk" with someone who can explain it.

As far as her production staff. I would have to know whose job it was to play the tracks.

Was it her guy with a laptop using a program to play the tracks.

Were the tracks given to Dick Clark productions on a flash drive for their audio guy to play the tracks.

To avoid confusion there should have been 3 tracks Auld Lang Syne, Emotions and We Belong Together

Now if it's her guy I would assume he would know what's what because he would be doing this all the time.

He would have Auld Lang Syne, Emotions with lead vocal included and We Belong Together in the right key.

Now I'm assuming that We Belong Together was in the wrong Key because on NYE it was the same as the album and not lowered like Emotions was lowered.

Again I basing this on her comment on stage " This is the album version" which tells me it's not the right version.

Emotions: lead vocals should have been playing. I believe Mariah said on stage "There are some vocals missing" Which one can deduce that she could hear but could she hear well enough to sing without the vocal track.

We Belong Together: Lead Vocal was on the track but she says "This is the album version"

So either her guy played the wrong tracks or the Dick Clark productions was given the wrong tracks.

The reason she may not be able to sing along regardless of the key is that her vocal range has diminished.
With singing you have to be able to cover the entire range of a particular song.
When you lower the key you lower the range you have to cover. Aside from the whistle notes she used to hit she can't sing as high as she could.
Yes her vocal key has to match the music.

Can she sue them?

I'm not a lawyer but if it was her guy running the tracks he's fired if her people gave Dick Clark productions the wrong tracks that person is fired.
If it was a DC Productions guys job just to play the tracks there's is nothing he could do if he was given the wrong tracks.

It could very well been a perfect storm of the wrong tracks and a issue with her in ear monitors.

One things with using tracks you are tied to it you can't deviate from it once it starts you are locked in.






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[Sherlock Homie]

After reading her managers statement and viewing the video of NYE it's possible that her in ears weren't working but could she hear well enough to sing?

It's possible because if you watch the video of Emotions there are certain spots where she attempts to sing. In these spots she is on time and in key with the track.
Based on that she could pulled it off.
It's just hard to say without hearing what she was hearing or not hearing.

By what her manager says that she was going to sing live to the Emotions track why wouldn't she sing live to We Belong Together. Because there were vocals on that track.
This doesn't make sense to me to sing live to Emotions and sing along with a vocal to We Belong Together.

There's a old saying "Fake it till you make it" Now it seems like it's " Fake it when you make it"





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[Rott Mom]

This was a complete disaster. Whatever this Diva is going through, my first thought is for her adorable children.
"Happy New Year" everyone.

 

[CARIIS]

Ya know how YT puts on reccs based on viewing?

Apparently, "reaction" vids are popular! So I checked it out. As far as human behavior goes it was fascinating.

Cause most of them were pretty identical to mine. And for most it was a similiar experience.

I went to see it only cause I heard about it on Cnn.

Facial reactions were amazingly too.

It's like your going over there to check out what they are talking about

In the beggining awful but not like what you "heard" as it progressed it was the same thing I did.

It was talking to screen? Just sing Mariah. Come on you can do it ! Eye brows up, a small chuckle.

Intense focus (I am I seeing what I am seeing!)

Total pause in shock

it was unreal

but all of us ended up at times just feeling so bad for her while watching the watching reaction videos(!) I could not help but think oh my I hope she does not watch any of this - poor thing

As you tell I have never watched "reaction" videos before but it was really interesting.


The pro poster helped me understand it a lot better,

 

[Inthedetails]

I'm having a hard time believing that the technical problems were as bad as Mariah says they were. This was a big event, televised to a huge audience, in a city that is full of professional stage people. They know what they are doing. They gave her back-up equipment, and that failed too? And the other acts, did they have problems too, or just Mariah?

Live performances often have things go wrong. Everyone knows that and audiences understand that. What the real problem is, imo, is Mariah's behavior and attitude. Act like a pro, act like someone who knows to entertain an audience even if the power is cut! It was the attitude, not the equipment, that was the problem, imo.

As I said above, if she had a good sense of humor about it and pulled off SOMETHING worthwhile on the stage, people would've loved it. She could have fixed her reputation is an alway-late diva in under 10 minutes. But, she left the stage instead.

boo.

jmo

 

[CARIIS]

This is neat mirroring a lot of the stuff you taught us

[video=youtube;Bhqq6nuNBTg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bhqq6nuNBTg[/video]

As far as her production staff. I would have to know whose job it was to play the tracks.

Was it her guy with a laptop using a program to play the tracks.

Were the tracks given to Dick Clark productions on a flash drive for their audio guy to play the tracks.

To avoid confusion there should have been 3 tracks Auld Lang Syne, Emotions and We Belong Together

Now if it's her guy I would assume he would know what's what because he would be doing this all the time.

He would have Auld Lang Syne, Emotions with lead vocal included and We Belong Together in the right key.

Now I'm assuming that We Belong Together was in the wrong Key because on NYE it was the same as the album and not lowered like Emotions was lowered.

Again I basing this on her comment on stage " This is the album version" which tells me it's not the right version.

Emotions: lead vocals should have been playing. I believe Mariah said on stage "There are some vocals missing" Which one can deduce that she could hear but could she hear well enough to sing without the vocal track.

We Belong Together: Lead Vocal was on the track but she says "This is the album version"

So either her guy played the wrong tracks or the Dick Clark productions was given the wrong tracks.

The reason she may not be able to sing along regardless of the key is that her vocal range has diminished.
With singing you have to be able to cover the entire range of a particular song.
When you lower the key you lower the range you have to cover. Aside from the whistle notes she used to hit she can't sing as high as she could.
Yes her vocal key has to match the music.

Can she sue them?

I'm not a lawyer but if it was her guy running the tracks he's fired if her people gave Dick Clark productions the wrong tracks that person is fired.
If it was a DC Productions guys job just to play the tracks there's is nothing he could do if he was given the wrong tracks.

It could very well been a perfect storm of the wrong tracks and a issue with her in ear monitors.

One things with using tracks you are tied to it you can't deviate from it once it starts you are locked in.






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[CARIIS]

ugh

go to 4:23 - is that not a riot - a vocal chord doctor that is a she but sound like a he or something in between !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[video=youtube;I1MxzK44THE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1MxzK44THE[/video]

a hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh come on guys gotta admit!!

 

[Lilibet]

I'm having a hard time believing that the technical problems were as bad as Mariah says they were. This was a big event, televised to a huge audience, in a city that is full of professional stage people. They know what they are doing. They gave her back-up equipment, and that failed too? And the other acts, did they have problems too, or just Mariah?

Live performances often have things go wrong. Everyone knows that and audiences understand that. What the real problem is, imo, is Mariah's behavior and attitude. Act like a pro, act like someone who knows to entertain an audience even if the power is cut! It was the attitude, not the equipment, that was the problem, imo.

As I said above, if she had a good sense of humor about it and pulled off SOMETHING worthwhile on the stage, people would've loved it. She could have fixed her reputation is an alway-late diva in under 10 minutes. But, she left the stage instead.

boo.
jmo

BBM

Exactly. It's the attitude, not the performance. I watched American Idol for ten years, and there were plenty of times the contestants yanked their earpiece out and kept going. Yes, they were competing, so they weren't about to stop their performance, but you could tell which ones cared as much about their audience as they did about winning. And that's what Mariah lacks. She's all about Mariah, as she was when she was a judge on American Idol, so she couldn't step out of herself and let go and entertain her audience. It wasn't an equipment malfunction. It was an attitude malfunction. Whining and having a tantrum won't fix it.
JMO

 

[DexterMorgan]

Would you be saying this to male performers/singers?It is not the 1950's anymore and she can have children and a profession. jmo.

Yes

I would have told Michael Jackson or any male singer the same thing if they were extremely rich and had kids but complained about having to work when they obviously didn't have too.

Jmo.

 

[CARIIS]

After reading her managers statement and viewing the video of NYE it's possible that her in ears weren't working but could she hear well enough to sing?

It's possible because if you watch the video of Emotions there are certain spots where she attempts to sing. In these spots she is on time and in key with the track.
Based on that she could pulled it off.
It's just hard to say without hearing what she was hearing or not hearing.

By what her manager says that she was going to sing live to the Emotions track why wouldn't she sing live to We Belong Together. Because there were vocals on that track.
This doesn't make sense to me to sing live to Emotions and sing along with a vocal to We Belong Together.

There's a old saying "Fake it till you make it" Now it seems like it's " Fake it when you make it"





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After your posts and that video, I think it was right on targot that when she did the last song and was able to come back a bit it was cause she hear better up there as oppossed to main stage.

Cause if you notice when she gives up again it is right when she back dead center on main stage to where she is back where she just cant hear anything.

I almost got the sense that when she was up there, and a least regrouping a bit she had total dread coming upon her.

She knew she was supposed to go back where she is in the mess zone, and sure enough she had to stop.

After learning, what actually transpired I am feeling sorry for her more so than yesterday.

So much coming at her a million drunks, lights, dancers, neon lights flashing, other stages with other singers, her track coming from behind her, side speakers, people blowing party whistles and stuff, that is a heck of a lot of stimuli.

And now I understand that if she just tried to just do the lead vocal, it will have all got actually garbled, I think.

And then she would have all that garbling coming upon her as well - kinda like a tidal wave of noise

moo

 

[CARIIS]

BBM

Exactly. It's the attitude, not the performance. I watched American Idol for ten years, and there were plenty of times the contestants yanked their earpiece out and kept going. Yes, they were competing, so they weren't about to stop their performance, but you could tell which ones cared as much about their audience as they did about winning. And that's what Mariah lacks. She's all about Mariah, as she was when she was a judge on American Idol, so she couldn't step out of herself and let go and entertain her audience. It wasn't an equipment malfunction. It was an attitude malfunction. Whining and having a tantrum won't fix it.
JMO

Was she bitc&&& on American Idol? I had faded from the show by the time she was a judge?/

ETA Don't know about the manager - she is the person that had no clue about time zone changes. For a manager of a mega star who has toured the world over 4 times not to know that there are time changes is IMO, nothing other than staggering.

Almost scary!!!

At the same time I did not like Mariah going onstage that night and lying. Could have turned into a real cute bit.

You guys are not gonna believe me, I am so sorry for being late. Wanna know what happened? Not one of us paid attn to the fact that you guys are an hour ahead of us.

How silly is that ? and carried on a bit - it would have been funny, people make mistakes, IMO the biggest gift one can give self is to be able to laugh at oneself.



moo

 

[Lilibet]

Was she bitc&&& on American Idol? I had faded from the show by the time she was a judge?/

ETA Don't know about the manager - she is the person that had no clue about time zone changes. For a manager of a mega star who has toured the world over 4 times not to know that there are time changes is IMO, nothing other than staggering.

Almost scary!!!

At the same time I did not like Mariah going onstage that night and lying. Could have turned into a real cute bit.

You guys are not gonna believe me, I am so sorry for being late. Wanna know what happened? Not one of us paid attn to the fact that you guys are an hour ahead of us.

How silly is that ? and carried on a bit - it would have been funny, people make mistakes, IMO the biggest gift one can give self is to be able to laugh at oneself.

moo

BBM

I wouldn't say Mariah was a bit€$ on American Idol. It wasn't about the manufactured feud with Nikki Minaj. It was that her critiques of the contestants were long-winded and devoid of help. Mariah later said that being a judge was boring because most of the performers were good, so there wasn't much to say. Maybe that's why she spent her time blabbing about herself. But her job was to help the contestants be better. Nikki, for all her craziness and attitude, took that job very seriously and gave specific and insightful advice...very caring about each contestant. The contrast between the two women was night and day. Mariah was all about Mariah. I expected better. So I'm not surprised about her attitude now.
JMO

http://people.com/tv/mariah-carey-calls-american-idol-so-boring-and-so-fake/

 

[kanzz]

Ok, wait a minute. This business about "What time does the ball drop?" That doesn't come from a time zone issue.. no, no. That comes from something else altogether. Because - Who Doesn't Have A Cell Phone? And cell phones automatically adjust to the local time! So, that question came from - what? OK, I don't want to say that somebody's an ejit, but...

 

[Lilibet]

Would you be saying this to male performers/singers?It is not the 1950's anymore and she can have children and a profession. jmo.

A woman certainly can have both children and a profession. Plenty did in the 50's too. But not all women have the ability to do both well at all times. Neither do men. Maybe Mariah can, but complaining about not having a holiday and working when she doesn't have to would indicate to me that she needs a little break...from work, not her kids. It's necessary to find a healthy balance.

Yes

I would have told Michael Jackson or any male singer the same thing if they were extremely rich and had kids but complained about having to work when they obviously didn't have too.

Jmo.

Exactly. When someone's big career stretches them too thin so they are not functioning well, and complaining about work, it's time to step back, re-evaluate and focus on the kids. Or let the estranged parent step up. I'm speaking of people with gobs of money, but also regular moms or dads with a stressful career may have to simplify so the kids don't suffer. Kids don't care about your exciting, satisfying career. It won't be what they remember and talk about when they grow up.
JMO, MOO

 

[abstr]

One more time, you have to get to Times Square many, many hours (like 12) ahead of time and NO ALCOHOL is allowed! You can defend her all you would like but I wish people would stop with "all the drunks" I understand that not everyone has been there but please take some time to read up if you don't believe me. I get this who want to give Mariah some slack but "a million drunks" just didn't happen!

 

[CARIIS]

[FONT=&quot]Some of the stuff she says is hard to hear so..........

The singer addressed the issue after transitioning to her hit “Emotions” and removing her earpiece, which a backup dancer tucked behind her shoulder. “Well, happy New Year! We can’t hear, but I’ll just get through the moment, okay,” she said.

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]All right,” said Carey, strutting across the stage. “We didn’t have a [sound] check for this song, so we’ll just say it went to No. 1, and that’s what it is. Okay.”

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]“Put these monitors on, please,”

[/FONT][FONT=&quot] “I want a holiday, too. Can I not have one? I’m trying to be a good sport here.”

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]“We Belong Together.” “Now this is the album version, so I’m just going to let you put this thing on me and sing along,” she said as a dancer assisted her with a wardrobe piece.

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]“Bring the feathers on — yes!” ( this is the first time I now know what said then wow-- basically just bury me please ) [/FONT]http://ew.com/tv/2017/01/01/mariah-carey-stops-singing-nye-abc/[FONT=&quot]she said, surrounded by oversized props as the performance ended. “You just don’t get any better.”[/FONT][FONT=&quot]


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[CARIIS]

Ok, wait a minute. This business about "What time does the ball drop?" That doesn't come from a time zone issue.. no, no. That comes from something else altogether. Because - Who Doesn't Have A Cell Phone? And cell phones automatically adjust to the local time! So, that question came from - what? OK, I don't want to say that somebody's an ejit, but...

Sorry my fault - the time zone thing was another concert - what I was trying to say was the manager seems to have had problems in the past

[video=youtube;HAyKWe0WY6Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAyKWe0WY6Q[/video]