Maricopa Jane Doe Thread #6

[youshouldveknown]

The Lindsey on myspace was not the correct one She was too old to be the Lindsey we are looking for.

To be fair, my myspace says I'm 97. And I change it periodically, back and forth. I don't like strangers knowing my age.

 

[lorelei]

Not that I've found and I've searched from 1999 to present. She'd be in a government cemetary somewhere, but the only one I know of is White Tanks. I went there and snapped a few photos as a general idea of what it's like there, but the amount of bodies versus the heat out here wasn't a good combination to spend time looking at all the small markers for 'unidentified female - jan 27, 1999'.

Would Maricopa MedEX have record of what burial service she was released to, and would they even release that information to us?

I think the ME would know what cemetery she was taken to. From the New Times article it seems like she would probably be at White Tanks since that is where the other unidentified people in the article were buried. Since the ME released the cemetery name for those people I'd guess we could at least find out that much from them, but I'm not sure if they would/could tell us the exact location of her grave.

Maybe the Public Fiduciary office would be able to give us the specific info if the ME can't? That is the office that contracts with the funeral homes (I think its a rotating list not one specific funeral home), and arranges the burials/services for indigent and unidentified people. They should have all the records I think?

 

[Vask]

Even if they couldn't tell us the exact 'plot' of where she is, I'm assuming they somehow go in chronological order burial wise, but I wouldn't even quote myself on that one since I've seen 'fresh' looking plots in the middle of older ones (could've been an exhumation/re-burial though). The only issue with hunting there is that it's in the middle of a heavy desert area, and in Arizona the temps here get to about 100+ which is almost unbearable for long amounts of time. To top it off, they don't allow you to drive your personal vehicle through the lot like a regular cemetery so you have to explore the entire thing on foot.

Here's a link discussing burials for UIDs/poverty-stricken families at White Tanks:
http://cronkitezine.asu.edu/fall2007/whitetanks1.html

Also shown is a picture of one of the markers; now keep in mind they are ALL like that.. hundreds of them.

<snippet>
This is White Tanks Cemetery, the indigent burial site where Sheriff Joe Arpaio&#8217;s chain gangs bury more than 300 bodies a year. Since 1994, the site has received more than 2,984 bodies, including babies.
</snippet>

 

[lorelei]

That looks like it would be really really difficult to find a particular plot, especially in the desert heat trying to look at each of those little markers.

I did a little searching online, it looks like it is actually the Maricopa County Facilities Management Department who handles the burials and keeps the records.
The public fiduciary office seems to work more with the families of the deceased to determine if they're eligible for indigent burial and then they would send the info to the Facilities Management who arrange the burial and have the inmates from Maricopa jails perform the actual burial I guess.
So I guess if not the Maricopa medical examiners office, then the Facilities Management dept. may be able to give us the info?

 

[Teresa Larson]

To be fair, my myspace says I'm 97. And I change it periodically, back and forth. I don't like strangers knowing my age.

She had her birth date listed and somebody did e-mail and ask her a few questions but she said she was sorry she wasn't the girl we were looking for.

 

[youshouldveknown]

somebody did e-mail and ask her a few questions but she said she was sorry she wasn't the girl we were looking for.

Then that would be an appropriate answer for the myspace not being accurate.

Although personally, I could definitely imagine LDJ denying she was the same girl. It's most likely something she wants to avoid at all costs, and I can't say I blame her.

 

[Vask]

Makes me wonder though if they know about these threads at all. On certain google searches pertaining to this case, the first like 5 hits are on this site alone.

 

[christine2448]

Makes me wonder though if they know about these threads at all. On certain google searches pertaining to this case, the first like 5 hits are on this site alone.

:woohoo:

 

[Vask]

I took a look at the newer photos that FMW posted in his photobucket for MJD.. I'm curious to know what Dollar Bill is (business card in the console photo). I ran Dollar Bill as an alias through Arizona's inmate search and none of the hits came up as related to this case. Google is impossible too.. I keep coming up with treasury links. lol

I'm thinking it might have been ADF's pimp card if he was in fact a pimp. He seems to have a stack of them.. self promotion? He's also rolling around with a $100 bill next to it like it's no big deal. I don't know about you but that puppy would be in my wallet!

//edit
I'm almost sure it's related to him somehow.. as a play on his own name. It's been said ADF's real name is William, and a lot of Williams get called Bill.

 

[Vask]

I found a "Dollar-Bill" in the search who's charge was child prostitution, but his offense date wasn't until August 2005.

If you put in just dollar into the last name slot on the search and check alias, you can mix/match your searches to see who all pops up.
http://test.azcorrections.gov/isearch/inmate_datasearch/index.aspx

 

[Zanko]

I found a "Dollar-Bill" in the search who's charge was child prostitution, but his offense date wasn't until August 2005.

If you put in just dollar into the last name slot on the search and check alias, you can mix/match your searches to see who all pops up.
http://test.azcorrections.gov/isearch/inmate_datasearch/index.aspx

The quote on the card comes from a song by rapper DJ Quik from an album titled, "Safe and Sound/Murder Was the Case" soundtrack. (Movie?) The song is called "Dollaz + Sense". It refers to pimping.

 

[Zanko]

Just a little more info about rapper DJ Quik. He belongs to the Bloods. I wonder if Mr. Alonzo has affiliations with the gang?

DJ Quik is from Compton California, The album that "Dollaz + Sense" was on was released in 1995. Disclaimer: Now I am not saying DJ Quik has anything to do with this case. Just interesting that someone would have the cards printed up with his lyrics on it. Since there would be trademark issues, most likely it is an amateur printing.

It would be interesting to find out who (in January 1999) owned the pager number listed.

 

[Zanko]

OMG! William Walker "Dollar Bill" ??? AKA Alonzo D Fernandez

 

[Vask]

I'm having trouble distinguishing some of the numbers clearly because of the angle.. I can definitely make out 602 660 *4*7 though.
I've tried plugging in both 6026608457 and 6026608437 into a reverse lookup and both come up as being a cell # through Arch Wireless here in phoenix.

 

[Vask]

OMG! William Walker "Dollar Bill" ??? AKA Alonzo D Fernandez

Did you actually make a connection in print somewhere? Or did you find the same coincidence?

 

[Zanko]

One of William Joseph Walker's alias names is Alonzo Decarlos Fernandez. We (here at WS) have not been certain that this is the same person. BUT I find it is extremely interesting that Alonzo would carry a card with the name "Dolar Bill" on it AND the police report has Lindsey refer to Alonzo as William (in her last interview prior to leaving for Washington). This has got to be more than coincidence!
Good catch on the card. I didn't even pay attention to it.

 

[Vask]

I remember you being the one posting the info. Does it give any of Willies addresses as being in Spokane, WA? I found an Arizona case for a William J Walker with a dob as 6/10/68 (one year off from our presumed William) and it lists his residence on the search screen as being in Spokane, WA.

Here's the case itself: http://www.supreme.state.az.us/publ...asp?cs_id=kceassmc&crt_name=Phoenix Municipal

Search William Walker @ http://www.supreme.state.az.us/publicaccess/notification/search.asp and it'll be within the 121-130 results (keep hitting next).

 

[Fairy1]

One of William Joseph Walker's alias names is Alonzo Decarlos Fernandez. We (here at WS) have not been certain that this is the same person. BUT I find it is extremely interesting that Alonzo would carry a card with the name "Dolar Bill" on it AND the police report has Lindsey refer to Alonzo as William (in her last interview prior to leaving for Washington). This has got to be more than coincidence!
Good catch on the card. I didn't even pay attention to it.

Very interesting and yes - Lindsey did refer to him as William. IIRC - Alonzo had/has MANY AKA's and many offenses in the northwest - Washington and Oregon. Dollar Bill makes a lot of sense under the circumstances. Wonder where he is now????

 

[Zanko]

The information I have says that William Joseph Walker was born on June 10, 1967. He has several convictions in Oregon. He is out of prison with community supervision listed as "high" risk. He is black, 5'11 and 205 lbs. Here are his court case numbers: 861136243/01, 880130628/01, C86113624, 000533779/01, CR9600808, SRA9600383.

I have no proof that William J. Walker is Alonzo D. Fernandez.

 

[Beyond Belief]

If you didn't read the print on the white envelope next to red and blue one in
MJD99305 > MJD
Hand written it says
Crossland Economy Studios
4861 W McDowell Rd, Phoenix, AZ 85035

http://www.hotelplanner.com/Hotels/...enix-West-Phoenix-4861-West-Mcdowell-Rd-85035