Marine Cpl. Cesar Laurean caught!!

[Snowlover77]

I just don't think Christina was involved in killing Maria....just what my gutt is telling me. I think Cesar did it by himself..and because we do not know all of the facts...he could have very will hidden Maria's body...there is so much that we don't know...

 

[SeriouslySearching]

You are welcome! I had to be gone today during the presser and didn't want to sort through here looking either! LOL That IS the reason we have forums for cases which are so involved as this one. To spread things out so we can keep them straight and not have to dig for information!!

OT: You bet your boots I will be watching! Did you send in an email for him?!

 

[Littledeer]

CL case on CNN HEADLINE NEWS NOW!

 

[panthera]

CL case on CNN HEADLINE NEWS NOW!

Good evening and thanks for the birthday wishes ~ :blowkiss: What a nice present anyway that Laurean was caught and should be headed back to the US soon. I'm still trying to catch up on the press conference and I'm watching Nancy's program too. I still can't understand how Laurean's wife can say she didn't know Maria was in the back yard or that anything had happened in the garage.

 

[panthera]

If you read the LeJeune Underground forums, there are some on there who state they DO NOT believe he did it, and if they were selected for jury duty would NOT be convicting him of murder.

My two cents - Either it's the "good ole boys" (and girls) sticking together, or there is a HELLOVA lot more to this story than has been released.

*Notice I didn't say they wouldn't convict him of anything, Just that they wouldn't convict him of murder*

:waitasec:

The problem is his wife had just as much reason to want Maria and her baby dead as he did. Yes, he put her body in his back yard and burned it, and that speaks volumes to his guilt, but it could also be covering up for what someone else did.

 

[panthera]

I wonder what the number of registered voters is in Onslow County as this is what is used to make up a jury pool. Are there more "Marines" as registered voters as opposed to the remaining population of registered voters?

Is there any place to find this information out at?

I'm not in that part of the state, but I understand the base makes up a lot of the population. This might be a good one for a change of venue (like where I live!).

 

[panthera]

CL looked "resigned" to whatever is coming on all the pictures I saw today of him in Mexico after his arrest.

I don't think CL will fight extradition. Does he even have a lawyer?

He had lawyers here in NC before he took off but I don't know how that works when someone's captured in Mexico. Does he get a Mexican lawyer or does his attorney from here go down there? He'd still be entitled to a lawyer before LE could question him, imo.

 

[Crime-Dreamer]

I wonder if Xtina was communicating with CL to help to get him back to the US. Possible.

Sherrif said on Nancy Grace he had an e-mail possibly from CL stating that he wanted to surrender to NC officials and not the military. Sherrif also said they had no evidence that Xtina was involved. Interesting. Not giving my personal opinion, just wondering.

Specialist in military law said the military can still apply the death penalty at this point.

IMO I see a confession no trails in any courts rape case dropped and no fault found of the military in exchange for no death penalty. I wonder if that is why the military has not charged him yet. No charges, no deal on the death penalty with Mexico. No one will ever know Maria's side because she is dead.

 

[Littledeer]

If that's the case, then a change of venue request by the defense would be IMO a given.

I can't see a "fair" trial if the jury pool is made up of voters who are married or related to any Marine.

Not sure where to post this thought, but I thought it was very telling on CNN Headline News tonight that Christina supposedly refused to help CL on his requests............. hmmmmmmmmmmm (maybe a thread s/b started on this topic?)

 

[Snowlover77]

I imagine he had cleaned up the biggest part of the blood that was visible...and because Maria was killed in the garage..maybe Christina didn't go out there much....I don't find it real hard to believe that Christina didn't know about Maria being buried in her backyard....how would she know? I don't think she seen anything that would indicate to her that Cesar had murdered Maria in their home....and proceeded to bury her ion his backyard. The more I think about everything I know, the more I think it very well may have been premeditated on Cesar's behalf.

 

[Crime-Dreamer]

On Nancy Grace someone, I think attorney general for Oslow County said it will be at least 60 days.

My understanding is that he is not going to fight extradition if he will be handed over to NC and not the military.

My understanding and not a true legal one is that he has two seperate extraditions to fight; one against NC and one against the military. The military has not yet charged him with murder but his defense attorney should get that resolved and the death penalty off the table with the military before he returns. He could also face the death penalty or other charges not yet named for deserting. There are also the rape charges although the military told Congressman Mike Turner they considered that matter, "concluded." I don't know if they meant the investigation or the case.

So, he has the right to fight extradition on each and every individual charge seperately with each agency making charges against him.

In addition to his three attorneys he hired in NC before he left town, the state attorney general appointed an attorney for him a couple of months ago. The district attorney said it was, "highly unusual" (may not be a correct quote). There was a big rukus because the state does not appoint a defense attorney for someone who had not been charged or who had not asked for one. I don't remember if that article was posted on this site or another. Let me know if you want that reference and I will find it. It is from a newspaper in NC. It was suspected that they were providing him with an attorney so the military were not going to be the only people to interview him if he was arrested. If he had an attorney appointed by the state, the state had a right to speak to him. I don't know if that attorney can now speak to him in Mexico but I have been trying to find that information. I was going to contact the reporter in NC.

 

[STEADFAST]

I thought ahead for just this request, Taximom! Here you go...no wading neccessary. No really new info tho. Christina is still being touted as "cooperating with LE". *coubsgh*

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63324

Thanks, SS! I was just about to wade into the sea of posts.

 

[chiperoni]

I thought ahead for just this request, Taximom! Here you go...no wading neccessary. No really new info tho. Christina is still being touted as "cooperating with LE". *coubsgh*

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63324

Tnx for the info Seriously Searching, I got home later today too.

 

[STEADFAST]

I imagine he had cleaned up the biggest part of the blood that was visible...and because Maria was killed in the garage..maybe Christina didn't go out there much....I don't find it real hard to believe that Christina didn't know about Maria being buried in her backyard....how would she know? I don't think she seen anything that would indicate to her that Cesar had murdered Maria in their home....and proceeded to bury her ion his backyard. The more I think about everything I know, the more I think it very well may have been premeditated on Cesar's behalf.

Wouldn't she have noticed the human bonfire in the back yard? Wouldn't she have noticed the blood that was inside the house, especially while she was helping to paint over it? Wouldn't she have noticed the car in her driveway?

 

[SuziQ]

Snowlover, please come take some of my snow.....

I've been away from this case for a bit so I don't quite remember all the details. But was it ever publicly released what area of the house Maria was murdered in?

 

[Crime-Dreamer]

I don't understand what you mean.

I go back and forth on Christina. I cannot believe that she didn't know what was going on and I know people saw her drive the car and heard she confronted Maria. On the other hand, the sherrif has been so protective of her. I just don't know. I am usually very clear on these things so I feel it is something out of my scope of experience or understanding. I'm not honing in on this one (her involvement) for some reason and never have been able to. I think it is going to be something really off the wall or something I just don't want to see or believe. So if I seem dumb about her, that is why. I just cannot get a handle on her.

 

[panthera]

If that's the case, then a change of venue request by the defense would be IMO a given.

I can't see a "fair" trial if the jury pool is made up of voters who are married or related to any Marine.

Not sure where to post this thought, but I thought it was very telling on CNN Headline News tonight that Christina supposedly refused to help CL on his requests............. hmmmmmmmmmmm (maybe a thread s/b started on this topic?)

She could be arrested and charged if she'd sent him money to help him stay a fugitive. Her attorney probably told her that.

 

[panthera]

Snowlover, please come take some of my snow.....

I've been away from this case for a bit so I don't quite remember all the details. But was it ever publicly released what area of the house Maria was murdered in?

Most of the blood cover-up was in the garage so that's where LE believes it happened.

 

[SuziQ]

Most of the blood cover-up was in the garage so that's where LE believes it happened.

Thank you! I just couldn't remember exactly what was stated regarding that.

 

[Snowlover77]

If I saw a bonfire in my backyard, I would not think there was a human being underneath all of it...eevn if I saw some spots of blood in my home. I think they had probably been planning on painting so that came as no suprise to Christina and the bon fire I think was also planned...and if anyone remembers, there was talk of him, after all of this went down and Maria's body was discovered, of him burying her elsewhere and going back and getting her because vultures had begun to gather at that place ...anyone remember that?...like I said before...I am leaning more towards it being Cesar and Cesar only that killed her and buried her and I think it was premeditated...
That baby would have(in his eyes) destroyed everything he had worked hard for his whole life...the rape charge, if true, would have court martialed him...and his life would have been meaningless in his eyes...he is MACHO...his type think of themselves...he has been on thre lam for 3 motnhs now and has wrote notes and hung them in the place wher ehe w staying reminding him to do push-ups...so even with all this going on in his life...he is still taking care of his physique...that speaks mighty loud to my ears!