Mark Smich: Innocent Dupe? Alternative Theories

[Sillybilly]

It seems to coincide with what his lawyer said as well that the truth would become clear once his co-accused was arrested, in my opinion.

<rsbm>

I had trouble finding the direct quote attributable to DP in MSM written articles, but I think this is what you are referring to.

from:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...r-tim-bosmas-murder+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

Defence lawyer Deepak Paradkar told reporters that once other suspects in the case are apprehended &#8220;you&#8217;ll get a fuller picture of what&#8217;s going on.&#8221;

&#8220;[He is] extremely concerned with the elevation of the charges. He is presumed innocent. We are defending it, we&#8217;re going to plead not guilty. There is a story behind this which I can&#8217;t get into but obviously it&#8217;s more than it appears to be,&#8221; he said.

WRT MS > working, IIRC, there was reference to him being involved in something to do with stone or rock work. (We had discussion early on as it relates to the Bosma's having some type of stone work done on their property).

 

[matou]

So Smich didn't have a regular job. What was DM's job?

 

[Arnie M]

..... (snip) .... there was reference to him being involved in something to do with stone or rock work. (We had discussion early on as it relates to the Bosma's having some type of stone work done on their property).

(From memory) ... a neighbor or someone around the MS neighborhood had observed a trailer load of landscaping stones that just happened to be there the day of the arrest

I think it was simply a red herring (imagination in the mind of that witness) and it got some traction here.

Along the same lines of the old barrels seen at the farm , a bunch of wild imaginations conjured up images of bodies dissolved in drums of acid like a Hitchcock movie

I do not think the stones were relevant.

 

[swedie]

So Smich didn't have a regular job. What was DM's job?

Two dudes needing jobs/incomes...chop shop? Their plan was foiled before it really got off the ground IMO.

 

[Juballee]

<rsbm>

I had trouble finding the direct quote attributable to DP in MSM written articles, but I think this is what you are referring to.

from:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...r-tim-bosmas-murder+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca



WRT MS > working, IIRC, there was reference to him being involved in something to do with stone or rock work. (We had discussion early on as it relates to the Bosma's having some type of stone work done on their property).

I was thinking of this line:

"Millard&#8217;s lawyer Deepak Paradkar insisted there was more to the story, that his client was innocent and the truth would become clear once his co-accused was under arrest. "

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/05/23/killer-video-for-bosma-accused

 

[SnooperDuper]

I was thinking of this line:

"Millard’s lawyer Deepak Paradkar insisted there was more to the story, that his client was innocent and the truth would become clear once his co-accused was under arrest. "

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/05/23/killer-video-for-bosma-accused

It makes you wonder, if DM's plan was always to throw MS under the bus, why then this:

Asked if he provided the “new information” that led to this latest police search of Millard’s farm, he his head — asking, “If I’m telling you I’m not talking, why do you think I’m talking to anyone?”

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...y_they_want_to_tell_their_story_but_cant.html

 

[Juballee]

So Smich didn't have a regular job. What was DM's job?

DM was CEO of MillardAir, that is a job in my eyes. And I think if he declared it on his taxes, the government considered it a real job.

Maybe DM was throwing MS a bone and giving him part time work with his family connections? If he was nice enough to give him a couch to crash on, he may have helped him to try to get in his feet in other ways. Just my opinion.

 

[Juballee]

It makes you wonder, if DM's plan was always to throw MS under the bus, why then this:



http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...y_they_want_to_tell_their_story_but_cant.html

That sounds reasonable to me, perhaps he never had an intention of throwing MS under the bus? Perhaps he has some horribly misguided sense of loyalty that won't allow him to 'snitch' on his friends? That could explain why he waited for the police to find his co-accused instead of turning him in like most of us think we would.

 

[SnooperDuper]

That sounds reasonable to me, perhaps he never had an intention of throwing MS under the bus? Perhaps he has some horribly misguided sense of loyalty that won't allow him to 'snitch' on his friends? That could explain why he waited for the police to find his co-accused instead of turning him in like most of us think we would.

Wait until they catch the other guy, he's the on you want + I'm not snitching <> anything noble.

 

[swedie]

That sounds reasonable to me, perhaps he never had an intention of throwing MS under the bus? Perhaps he has some horribly misguided sense of loyalty that won't allow him to 'snitch' on his friends? That could explain why he waited for the police to find his co-accused instead of turning him in like most of us think we would.

IMO if he wasn't loyal to his own father, why would he be loyal to a petty criminal? MOO.

 

[swedie]

I was thinking of this line:

"Millard&#8217;s lawyer Deepak Paradkar insisted there was more to the story, that his client was innocent and the truth would become clear once his co-accused was under arrest. "

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/05/23/killer-video-for-bosma-accused

Just sounds like a typical defence attorney spiel to me. IIRC DD said something very similar in Rafferty's defence. The attorneys are getting paid to defend their clients, what are they suppose to say?

Since DM's co-accused has been arrested, where's this truth that was supposed to come out according to DP? Since MS arrest the information we've discovered IMO makes DM seem more involved and guilty than MS. That's JMO thought.

 

[MsSherlock]

DM was CEO of MillardAir, that is a job in my eyes. And I think if he declared it on his taxes, the government considered it a real job.

Maybe DM was throwing MS a bone and giving him part time work with his family connections? If he was nice enough to give him a couch to crash on, he may have helped him to try to get in his feet in other ways. Just my opinion.

I seriously doubt that DM was a "real" CEO. Or is the world to assume that without any type of business education, or formal education for that matter that DM was a prodigy CEO as well? IMO, WM had to give DM a title that would put him on the payroll...thus become a tax write off and if he put enough top level consultants and managers in place, DM didn't even really have to be there. MOO As far as DM throwing MS a bone? Seriously doubt it. IMHO, MS may have actually thought that DM was a friend who wasn't capable of killing anyone, not for one minute thinking that DM would be throwing him under the bus with the entire "framing" notion. JMHO

A chief executive officer (CEO) (US phenomenon) or managing director (MD)[1] (British phenomenon) describes the position of the most senior corporate officer (executive) or administrator in charge of managing a for-profit organization. The CEO of a corporation or company typically reports to the board of directors and is charged with maximizing the value of the entity.[2] Titles also often given to the holder of the CEO position include president and chief executive (CE).[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_executive_officer

 

[Juballee]

Did MS's lawyer saying anything about MS being famed? So far as I have heard, the only ones who have ever claimed that MS was framed are his supporters here on WS.

I think I heard it mentioned here as well that WM just wanted his son to have a CEO name plate, so I doubt that WM cared if DM had an MBA or not. I would imagine that through living with someone for 27 years, and working with them as well, one might have a fairly reasonable understanding of the skills and level of competence of the other. For all we know, WM had been grooming DM for this position since he broke that record, WM may have felt that he taught him everything he needed to know to be the CEO of the family business.

To me it seems that people want to have it both ways, they want to say that DM was just a figurehead, a dummy, a tax write off who had enough other people to do the actual work for him, yet some others seem to completely blame him for the collapse of MillardAir, and it can't be both ways in my opinion. If he was just a figurehead then employees like AS should have been bringing in the contracts and it would be his fault that it failed, not the figurehead's fault. Unless he was also installed as CEO and scapegoat of MillardAir. My opinions only.

 

[hopingforjustice]

This article and quote Insinuates that DP suggests framing but can't discuss it...JMO

&#8220;There is a story behind this, which I can&#8217;t get into,&#8221; said Paradkar, who met Millard through mutual friends a couple of months ago. &#8220;Obviously it&#8217;s more than what it appears to be.&#8221;

When asked if he was suggesting his client may have been set up, the lawyer would only say, &#8220;I can&#8217;t get into the framing aspect.

&#8220;We&#8217;re really waiting for the police investigation to be completed,&#8221; Paradkar said. &#8220;There are other suspects out there ... and once they&#8217;ve been apprehended I think you&#8217;ll have a fuller picture of what&#8217;s going on.&#8221;

Millard has so far maintained his right to remain silent, but his lawyer said the public &#8220;will likely hear his side of the story&#8221; when the case goes to trial a few years from now.

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/05/15/tim-bosma-murder-suspect-dellen-millard-in-hamilton-court

BBM...interesting adjective..

 

[Juballee]

Paradakar said suspects, plural. I wonder what he knows that we don't know, but I am assuming he at least heard his client's story at that point.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Did MS's lawyer saying anything about MS being famed? So far as I have heard, the only ones who have ever claimed that MS was framed are his supporters here on WS.

I think I heard it mentioned here as well that WM just wanted his son to have a CEO name plate, so I doubt that WM cared if DM had an MBA or not. I would imagine that through living with someone for 27 years, and working with them as well, one might have a fairly reasonable understanding of the skills and level of competence of the other. For all we know, WM had been grooming DM for this position since he broke that record, WM may have felt that he taught him everything he needed to know to be the CEO of the family business.

To me it seems that people want to have it both ways, they want to say that DM was just a figurehead, a dummy, a tax write off who had enough other people to do the actual work for him, yet some others seem to completely blame him for the collapse of MillardAir, and it can't be both ways in my opinion. If he was just a figurehead then employees like AS should have been bringing in the contracts and it would be his fault that it failed, not the figurehead's fault. Unless he was also installed as CEO and scapegoat of MillardAir. My opinions only.

IMO WM did not know a sniff about business nor did his son. WM IMO was a dependent employee type that fought over meaningless things like the right to have long party hair. DM was not responsible or dependable and needed to be rescued by his parents to force him to complete a basic high school education. DM's parents had to fight and force him to get as much education as a factory worker. Oh but DM can bring skills to the table like makeup artistry.

Bottom line, I would not invest my money in a company run by beverage-refreshed WM and irresponsible DM. I think the Millardair MRO was doomed before it launched.

 

[swedie]

Paradakar said suspects, plural. I wonder what he knows that we don't know, but I am assuming he at least heard his client's story at that point.

Hehehe he knows his client is guilty of three murders and financially broke? But on a serious note, don't you suspect he knows a whole lot more than we do? I sure would hope so. DP has discovery from the Crown. Hmmm maybe he hasn't had time to go over it though. :thinking: MOO.

 

[swedie]

Did MS's lawyer saying anything about MS being famed? So far as I have heard, the only ones who have ever claimed that MS was framed are his supporters here on WS.

I think I heard it mentioned here as well that WM just wanted his son to have a CEO name plate, so I doubt that WM cared if DM had an MBA or not. I would imagine that through living with someone for 27 years, and working with them as well, one might have a fairly reasonable understanding of the skills and level of competence of the other. For all we know, WM had been grooming DM for this position since he broke that record, WM may have felt that he taught him everything he needed to know to be the CEO of the family business.

To me it seems that people want to have it both ways, they want to say that DM was just a figurehead, a dummy, a tax write off who had enough other people to do the actual work for him, yet some others seem to completely blame him for the collapse of MillardAir, and it can't be both ways in my opinion. If he was just a figurehead then employees like AS should have been bringing in the contracts and it would be his fault that it failed, not the figurehead's fault. Unless he was also installed as CEO and scapegoat of MillardAir. My opinions only.

MS's lawyer doesn't suffer from Napoleon syndrome and refuses to speak publicly about the case. He doesn't boast about his fortunes either, nor does he stand on the courthouse steps passing out business cards. I haven't read any information on MS's attorney were he brags about getting guilty people off on pathetic technicalities either.

Maybe speak with those who actually know MS. You're likely to find he has many supporters who believe he was duped. HTH and MOO.

 

[Juballee]

It sounds like he does have a lot of supporters, and his lawyer seems to have some here too, good for him!

 

[Kamille]

Hehehe he knows his client is guilty of three murders and financially broke? But on a serious note, don't you suspect he knows a whole lot more than we do? I sure would hope so. DP has discovery from the Crown. Hmmm maybe he hasn't had time to go over it though. :thinking: MOO.

Do we know why there is a different lawyer representing DM right now? Is this still the lawyer who is fighting to remove the public and the media from these hearings? Will DP be retained before the end of the month to represent him in the actual hearing now that the requests seem to have been denied?

It really indicates the difference in the type of defense that a person likely using legal aid gets. I don't think MS will be getting different lawyers for different arguments. I hope he gets just as fair a trial as DM will surely get.

MOO