MD MD - Frederick, WhtFem 17-45, UP7477, in steamer trunk in state park, Spondylolysis, Aug'82

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NamUs was modified today; no new public exclusions.
 
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“she has no dental fillings”
Now yes, I'm putting my theory to hell. I wanted to know your opinion on this matter.
 
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Does anyone know if Sandra June Horwath is overruled? (4710DFMI - Sandra June Horwath ) She is little bit off the age and size ranges but something in this case makes me think about this doe (She also look very similar with the sketch)

She is missing from Ann Arbour, Michigan which makes the distance of 500 miles, but she moved there just a couple of years before she went missing, she lived most of her life in Allentown, Pennsylvania. This doe was found from nearby road to Gambrill State Park and distance between those locations is little bit over 150 miles an this place is somehow in the middle of her new and old hometown. But there has been an investigation of her missing and suspect does apperently not have connections to this area. But this suspect has been travelling a lot and killed in 3 states.
 
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It's an interesting coincidence if it happens. Submit it, I think it's a good coincidence if it's needed. Good luck!
Does anyone know if Sandra June Horwath is overruled? (4710DFMI - Sandra June Horwath ) She is little bit off the age and size ranges but something in this case makes me think about this doe (She also look very similar with the sketch)

She is missing from Ann Arbour, Michigan which makes the distance of 500 miles, but she moved there just a couple of years before she went missing, she lived most of her life in Allentown, Pennsylvania. This doe was found from nearby road to Gambrill State Park and distance between those locations is little bit over 150 miles an this place is somehow in the middle of her new and old hometown. But there has been an investigation of her missing and suspect does apperently not have connections to this area. But this suspect has been travelling a lot and killed in 3 states.
 
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I'm wondering if Jan Cotta could have had some work done by "dental students" in the time between she went missing in 1973 and this Doe was found. It seems like Jan spent most of her youth on a horse, and that could account for some of these pelvic issues and/or club foot versus foot injuries. Not sure on the wrist or a potential birth or stillbirth.
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Jan is not a rule-out on Namus for Doe, so I'm checking with Wall Township, NJ and Frederick.
 
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I ran Nancy Lynn Jason through the ringer again today with all the data I had been the two cases. The AI assistant I use estimated 40-55% chance that they are one in the same. I really wish they would compare the two.
 
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I'm wondering if Jan Cotta could have had some work done by "dental students" in the time between she went missing in 1973 and this Doe was found. It seems like Jan spent most of her youth on a horse, and that could account for some of these pelvic issues and/or club foot versus foot injuries. Not sure on the wrist or a potential birth or stillbirth.
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Jan is not a rule-out on Namus for Doe, so I'm checking with Wall Township, NJ and Frederick.
I would think if the Jane Doe was pregnant, then it would be included in the description. Low probability in my view. I think some of the medical conditions between the two cases would overlap in reports if they were one and the same.
 
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I would think if the Jane Doe was pregnant, then it would be included in the description.
Correct. Jan would have been pregnant in 1973, this Doe was likely deceased as of Spring 1982.
 
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I ran Nancy Lynn Jason through the ringer again today with all the data I had been the two cases. The AI assistant I use estimated 40-55% chance that they are one in the same. I really wish they would compare the two.
Who have you talked to with this? I can see if it's been ruled out.
 
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has the rule out list been updated with any new exclusions?
 
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What is the most recent list of "rule outs" based on DNA testing?
 
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What is the most recent list of "rule outs" based on DNA testing?
They lost her bones a long time ago and can’t find them anymore. So the short answer is there are no rule-outs based on DNA. I think the rule-outs list (based on her dental charts) is the same as when it was last posted but I’ve accidentally locked myself out of NamUs so I can’t check right now.
 
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What is the most recent list of "rule outs" based on DNA testing?
There's no DNA available. They have ruled a few out in the last couple years by dentals. One in PA that looked promising. I talk to one of the investigators on this case regularly.
 
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What is the most recent list of "rule outs" based on DNA testing?
OMG, Richard! We go WAYYYYY back! I haven't been here in quite some time...
 
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Possible match I saw on reddit:

Carlene Brown

Brown matches the age range given, has the same hair color as the Doe was thought to have, and has surgical scars on both big toes (the Cheerleader was listed as having back and feet injuries).

 
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Possible match I saw on reddit:

Carlene Brown

Brown matches the age range given, has the same hair color as the Doe was thought to have, and has surgical scars on both big toes (the Cheerleader was listed as having back and feet injuries).

Should be an easy rule in/rule out because they both have dental records.
 
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Should be an easy rule in/rule out because they both have dental records.
I would like to send this possible match but I don't know who to.
 
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I would like to send this possible match but I don't know who to.
I'm really sorry, I haven't sent a match in, in forever.
I would start with the contact information in NamUs for either one of these two cases.
 

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