MD - Officers Injured, Baltimore Businesses Shut Down Amid Violent Riots - #1

[Wysteria]

I would like to see the dancers pitch in and clean up. Hey! How about dancing WHILE cleaning up? That would be awesome to see.

If only...and in my hopes and dreams.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Oh, someone walked up and started throwing bottles or some such at the police.

Wow - how quick things can happen!

 

[krimekat]

Denying the very real issue of police brutality against people of color is the problem.

JMHO.

Denying the very real issue of police brutality against people is the problem. IMHO

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Now its starting to get ugly again

 

[branwynbreeze]

Spray from a firehouse can cover a larger area at once. Katy is right, it would be a civil rights violation but at this point I don't care. It may just save some of baltimore, and lives.

My anger is turning into defeat. I cannot believe that acts of civil disobedience are the accepted norm.

Re: using fire hose reminds some of what they endured in past, I doubt most rioting have any first hand memory of this. Our Veterans carry physical and mental reminders everyday of H*lls of the past. I am NOT downplaying those who did/do make a difference in civil rights, just comparing those who stepped up when asked by USA to those who saw a chance to run amok.

I sort of see it as a double edge sword, calling NG could be thought of as militarizing and criticized, but BPD did have what they believed as a credible threat. The rules of engagement Baltimore took where ineffective and a slap in the face to all law abiding citizens.

I believe that once it got out of hand, LE should have be able to use reasonable force to end it instead of babysitting bad behavior, that's abetting in my book.

I do want to say Freddy Gray's family has my utmost respect and have handled this situation with dignity and clarity.

 

[popsicle]

Post Local ‏@postlocal 2m2 minutes ago
List of closures in Baltimore grows amid threat of violence http://wpo.st/dOvE0

 

[Tawny]

Denying the very real issue of police brutality against people is the problem. IMHO

Yes, also that!

 

[SCHMAE]

What feed is everyone watching? I'm bouncing back between cnn and fox and listening to scanner. I need a good feed . TIA

 

[popsicle]

Breaking News ‏@Breaking911 2m2 minutes ago
Baltimore Police: At Least 20 Officers Injured In Riots; 1 Critical After Building Fire


ABC7News ‏@ABC7News 4m4 minutes ago
Baltimore PD: At least 20 officers injured in Monday night violence; 1 person critically injured in building fire: http://www.wjla.com/articles/2015/04/riots-in-baltimore-raise-questions-about-police-response-113563.html …

 

[galiuro]

I think the media DID distort her message...it seemed to me that she was regretting that she gave the demonstrators space and that in that space rioters also appeared. She seems to be in way over her head, frankly.

 

[Nova]

Sorry. Elite Academia is a driving force behind political correctness. This country is now one big melting pot of perpetually offended people.

I spent a quarter-century in "elite academia" (Ivy League and U. of California) as a student, teaching assistant and professor. I was continually surprised how reports of "political correctness" were exaggerated by the media.

Yes, there is a concern with words and their meanings in academia. That is part of the Academy's mission: to make us think about why we use the words we choose and what meanings we convey.

But just because Fox News or CNN loves to express faux outrage at supposed excesses, they are, in my experience, quite rare. It is far more common that disagreements about vocabulary are handled privately between the parties involved.

Speaking for myself as a gay man, I hear all sorts of offensive remarks every day--from family and friends as well as strangers. I have no problem speaking up, but as a rule I consider the intention and ignore most such remarks, knowing no offense was intended.

And while I certainly think we should reserve judging people simply because they use an unfortunate term, I have never understood the outrage that greets every suggestion that words have meaning and maybe we could take a second look at the words we use and the meanings they convey. The way people have carried on in this thread alone, one would think they were being carted off to the Chinese "reeducation camps" of the Cultural Revolution.

 

[Peliman]

There's a difference between peaceful protest and criminal activity. The rock throwing at police is assault, window breaking is vandalism, looting the stores is larceny, burning cars is arson. This will continue to happen unless there are consequences. That goes for ANY person of any color including purple.

I hope those committing crimes are brought to justice and consequences applied. Just like I think any officer involved in negligent injury to a civilian of any race should face consequences. This is a pending investigation and if charges are warranted against police then they should be charged and brought before a judge.

Unless police make arrest for lawbreaking, it will continue. If not this week, there will be an incident later down the road.

I want to see legal arrest for lawbreakers (not peaceful protesters) I want the perps charged and the courts to deal with the lawbreakers. Otherwise we will become a lawless society.

IMO

 

[Wise Old Owl]

I have CNN on
Crowd was peaceful - new protestors came up and started throwing bottles. LE came out - using pepper spray and took one guy away. Then LE backed up again.

Reporter took some pepper spray in the back of his neck. He's talking about how women and children started running. IMO NO children should be in that crowd. I've been seeing little kids in this crowd all morning and thinking to myself - no way would I have my children in the crowd.

 

[galiuro]

I caught that too...such brave noble 'bangers, to protect some while burning down others...

So now can the business owners have their demonstrations to protest against the gangs? o for sure, but dont expect the cops to protect you when the 'bangers see you doing that...free speech, such a grand thing...

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I'm so arrrgggghhh at the gang involvement in directing rioters towards Arab and Asian businesses, isn't that the same exact kind of bigotry they're supposedly rioting about .. the tail is wagging the dog.

 

[EllieBee]

I have been trying to figure out what Nancy Grace has to do with this situation? :laughing: NG=National Guard. I need more sleep.

I cannot tell you how many times I thought the same thing, lol.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

It now seems this mayor ain't making no friends on either side. One guy talking with the reporter is upset at her for calling the kids of Baltimore the "T" word yesterday. And yes, she did, I saw that presser myself and kinda thought she shouldn't be using such "off-color" words in her position.

She needs to just "stand down".......... IMHO

 

[Ladylub]

Thüg (with a normal "u")

Haven't followed this thread, is that word not allowed on this site?

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I just saw the video of the woman smacking around her kid for rioting, not too 'down' with the whole cheering aspect in regards to that .. maybe it's an indication of how these rioting teens were raised .. ie in violence. Violence begets violence and all that etc.

 

[katydid23]

Did you watch the Mayor's news conference? She said she did not say that.

She said she did not say that. But then again, it was replayed over and over and she DID, IN FACT, say those exact words.