MD - Phylicia Barnes, 16, Baltimore, 28 Dec 2010 #3

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http://radioamber.net/?p=4219

Jan 29th, 2011 | By Paul P |

Yesterday marked a month since then 16 year old Phylicia Barnes was reported missing. Her 17th birthday has passed since that time. The North Carolina teen was visiting her half sister, Deena Barnes, during the Christmas holidays in Baltimore when she literally disappeared. Although her story was not immediately picked up by national media as time went by and people spoke out about that, it gained attention.
 
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Unless Phylicia said something to him, about already having a new woman, or cheating on her sister?
Not really likely, just trying to think if this FB matters. I think it could be important that he wanted to stay in the relationship.

I agree and I think it's possible that he may have snapped if it were something he had been able to successfully hide from DB until that point. But the thing that holds me back from thinking it was the big catalyst for whatever happened to Phylicia is that DB, KB, and PB would all have been friends with the same people on FB, kwim? So it seems like - why take it out on PB if it were something DB had heard about but just hadn't had a chance to look up herself?

OTOH, we know PB used FB. Did DB have an account and use it regularly? And KB? Just trying to figure out if it were info DB would have found out anyway, why take it out on PB?

I think I'm talking in circles now - LOL!
 
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I agree and I think it's possible that he may have snapped if it were something he had been able to successfully hide from DB until that point. But the thing that holds me back from thinking it was the big catalyst for whatever happened to Phylicia is that DB, KB, and PB would all have been friends with the same people on FB, kwim? So it seems like - why take it out on PB if it were something DB had heard about but just hadn't had a chance to look up herself?

OTOH, we know PB used FB. Did DB have an account and use it regularly? And KB? Just trying to figure out if it were info DB would have found out anyway, why take it out on PB?

I think I'm talking in circles now - LOL!

I'm thinking that it wasnt something on HIS FB. It may have been something PB found by snooping and finding it the other girls FB page. I know my teen likes to 'snoop' the FB of guys she is interested in. And she often can find them on other girls pages by following the pages of their friends.
So maybe he was angry that she snooped and told her sister something which made her deny his request to get back together.
 
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There seems to be little details sneaking out here and there, and honestly, it just makes it all the more puzzling.

We need that ONE BIG CLUE to bring a motive around.

This lovely young woman has been missing for one month and progress on her case is as cold and desolate as the wintery Maryland landscape. I hate to think of her out there in this weather. I honestly do not believe she is alive ( I hope I am wrong), and the thought of her still out there in the cold, just breaks my heart. I feel so so bad for her and her family. The thought of Phylicia missing her own birthday just shook me.
 
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I have to hope that LE has known all of these details since the beginning, and was keeping wraps on them for the sake of investigation and interrogation. If these new details were kept from LE until now, it would be a sad statement of the maturity of the people surrounding PB.

I truly am wondering if PB left to get away from the apartment, and met with foul play from someone not connected to the apartment. It is possible. Unlikely, in broad daylight, but possible.
 
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http://www.abc2news.com/dpp/news/re...ylicia-barnes-update-by-baltimore-city-police
Today they learned the reward has been increased. $10,000 in Bmore. NC has $25,000.
Continue to work case vigorously each day.
Commander of Homicide-From the beginning the homicide unit took over the investigation. Have had up to 35 detectives at any one time. One squad is mainly working on it, with other BPD, state police, FBI, Chesepeke search dogs, other community support.
Have followed 8 leads.
2 directions. Homicide, and Abduction.

BPD Twitter page: http://twitter.com/#!/BaltimorePolice

That was it. That was the presser?
 
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This new information regarding MJ, DB, facebook and "the girl" with whom MJ was pictured speaks volumes to me. That is the closest thing to a real motive, for any of the known POIs, I've seen so far. Yes, 10 years is a very long time. I have been "dating"/living with my homie for the same amount of time. Is the kind of long-term courtship that causes pretty much everyone to ask why you're not married. And long enough for your partner to become more meaningful to you than... well, just about anyone. I can easily see an unbalanced or narcissistic person completely wigging out at the thought of being rejected by someone who was such a major part of his or her life. PB entered their lives only 2 years ago... I can also see this unbalanced person placing all the blame on her (e.g. "if she wasn't in the picture, none of this would have ever happened!"). Misplaced blame is common among all people, and particularly volatile when matched with volatile people.
 
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This new information regarding MJ, DB, facebook and "the girl" with whom MJ was pictured speaks volumes to me. That is the closest thing to a real motive, for any of the known POIs, I've seen so far. Yes, 10 years is a very long time. I have been "dating"/living with my homie for the same amount of time. Is the kind of long-term courtship that causes pretty much everyone to ask why you're not married. And long enough for your partner to become more meaningful to you than... well, just about anyone. I can easily see an unbalanced or narcissistic person completely wigging out at the thought of being rejected by someone who was such a major part of his or her life. PB entered their lives only 2 years ago... I can also see this unbalanced person placing all the blame on her (e.g. "if she wasn't in the picture, none of this would have ever happened!"). Misplaced blame is common among all people, and particularly volatile when matched with volatile people.

"The girl" or was it a woman in the picture? What age is MJ? Would that truly be a motive to what may have happened to PB? MJ doesn't appear to be unbalanced; does he? I think it depends on how jealous heart(ed) he could possibly be. It was stated that he had a new gf, but it was also stated that he wanted things to work between he and DB. He can't have the best of both worlds. Have his cake and eat it tooooo. He couldn't be that type of person. Maybe he is. Yes, misplaced blame can occur, but, MJ knew PB was young and different from the crowd. I'd think that MJ would be protective of PB because of that. More so, act like a Big brother towards PB. Act as real men do. Brothers are protective of their sisters. PB should have been like a little sister to him. How are you today?
 
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PB entered their lives only 2 years ago... I can also see this unbalanced person placing all the blame on her (e.g. "if she wasn't in the picture, none of this would have ever happened!"). Misplaced blame is common among all people, and particularly volatile when matched with volatile people.

It was stated that LBC was living at the apt too. I wonder how MJ felt about that. I guess MJ didn't mind that because that person was on his side of the family. Why couldn't MJ accept PB? She was only going to be there for a short amount of time. Then she was going back home. Why not just chill out until PB went back home? Pb visited before righhh? If so, there must not have been any issues then. Why now? Why would there be an issue this time around. Volatile vs. Volatile. I know of some couples who fight with each other or aggressive towards one another. It can become habit forming after a while. The only way in which they know how to communicate for the most part. Yet, can't seem to let one another go. A complicated relationship sort of speak. Have you ever heard of that? Anything can set a person off while involved in a complicated relationship. Especially if cheating took place.
 
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"The girl" or was it a woman in the picture? What age is MJ? Would that truly be a motive to what may have happened to PB? MJ doesn't appear to be unbalanced; does he? I think it depends on how jealous heart(ed) he could possibly be. It was stated that he had a new gf, but it was also stated that he wanted things to work between he and DB. He can't have the best of both worlds. Have his cake and eat it tooooo. He couldn't be that type of person. Maybe he is. Yes, misplaced blame can occur, but, MJ knew PB was young and different from the crowd. I'd think that MJ would be protective of PB because of that. More so, act like a Big brother towards PB. Act as real men do. Brothers are protective of their sisters. PB should have been like a little sister to him. How are you today?

I should clarify, when I say "girl" I really mean "female" and in this case most likely "adult female". My apologies, I tend to forget that my lexicon is not universal!

Would it truly be a motive? No idea. However, I believe it could, realistically, be a potential motive....under the condition that he is unbalanced, which of course none of us can know for sure (at present). The timing is certainly conspicuous. It is the most dramatic event of the day that we are aware of, prior to PB's disappearance. And it concerned both the missing person and the last person who saw her.

As for being protective of PB and as a pseudo brother-in-law, what we know of his actions (or rather, inaction) following her disappearance tells me that his primary concern right now is for himself and/or his own blood relatives. Thus, a concerned big brother type, in this regard, he is not.

Oh, and I am well, thank you! Off of work, 70 degrees and sunny. Yay.
 
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It was stated that LBC was living at the apt too. I wonder how MJ felt about that. I guess MJ didn't mind that because that person was on his side of the family. Why couldn't MJ accept PB? She was only going to be there for a short amount of time. Then she was going back home. Why not just chill out until PB went back home? Pb visited before righhh? If so, there must not have been any issues then. Why now? Why would there be an issue this time around. Volatile vs. Volatile. I know of some couples who fight with each other or aggressive towards one another. It can become habit forming after a while. The only way in which they know how to communicate for the most part. Yet, can't seem to let one another go. A complicated relationship sort of speak. Have you ever heard of that?

I did not know that LBC was living there! I only read mention that he stayed over night (granted, I have not watched the NG spot yet.... I shall momentarily).

"Why couldn't MJ accept PB?"
Further speculation: Perhaps it wasn't a matter of "not accepting" PB so much as... she angered him for outing his situation to DB that morning. And according BB, her e-mail and FB were still open on her computer (assuming they didn't know her passwords). Of course, this all hinges on the idea that PB did in fact find a photo of MJ and another woman that morning and then relayed it to DB who then rejected the idea of rekindling a relationship with MJ. PB meant much, much less to MJ than DB did, and I would presume that, by virtue of sisterhood, PB meant much, much more to DB than MJ did. Punishing PB would also punish DB.
 
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I should clarify, when I say "girl" I really mean "female" and in this case most likely "adult female". My apologies, I tend to forget that my lexicon is not universal!

Oh, and I am well, thank you! Off of work, 70 degrees and sunny. Yay.

I got tickled for a minute. (I'm not universal either in some areas). Adult female. Okay, that's legal. Um, I think I can see what you mean when you say, it was the most dramatic event of the day that we are aware of, prior to PB's disappearance. It's strange though. Wouldn't he have known that people would suspect him if he was the last person that saw PB? I don't get that part. But, then again, I didn't get why the Vegas dancer's ex-boyfriend wouldn't think the same of him. That heat of the moment kind of thing (temper) can really defeat a person's mentality at times. As far as being concerned for himself and/or his relatives, I guess I would feel the same way too. What about that reward money though? Changing subjects for a sec, 70 degrees sounds lovely.
 
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A couple things...
PB had been in their lives for 18 months. May of 2009 is when she contacted DB/KB.

DB/KB had a presence on FB, because that is how PB found them.

Without being able to access the FB pictures in question, and without knowing what happened after DB/MJ got off the phone with each other, I have to draw from what JS said about her daughter. JS said that PB did NOT like conflict, was a peace maker, and did NOT like to get in the middle of things. PB did not want to confide in DB about being hit on and feeling uncomfortable because she did not want to cause friction between herself and DB/MJ, which made me think that the person who hit on her was in the apartment because he was connected to MJ somehow.

For these reasons, I find it difficult to imagine PB searching out this photo, and essentially instigating more conflict/stress in the household.

The revelation about the FB photo and MJ wanting to get back together is illuminating, but perhaps not for the reasons initially assumed by those who revealed the information....
 
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I did not know that LBC was living there! I only read mention that he stayed over night (granted, I have not watched the NG spot yet.... I shall momentarily).

"Why couldn't MJ accept PB?"
Further speculation: Perhaps it wasn't a matter of "not accepting" PB so much as... she angered him for outing his situation to DB that morning. And according BB, her e-mail and FB were still open on her computer (assuming they didn't know her passwords). Of course, this all hinges on the idea that PB did in fact find a photo of MJ and another woman that morning and then relayed it to DB who then rejected the idea of rekindling a relationship with MJ. PB meant much, much less to MJ than DB did, and I would presume that, by virtue of sisterhood, PB meant much, much more to DB than MJ did. Punishing PB would also punish DB.
(BBM)

IMO, this is huge.
 
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"Why couldn't MJ accept PB?"
Further speculation: Perhaps it wasn't a matter of "not accepting" PB so much as... she angered him for outing his situation to DB that morning. And according BB, her e-mail and FB were still open on her computer (assuming they didn't know her passwords). Of course, this all hinges on the idea that PB did in fact find a photo of MJ and another woman that morning and then relayed it to DB who then rejected the idea of rekindling a relationship with MJ. PB meant much, much less to MJ than DB did, and I would presume that, by virtue of sisterhood, PB meant much, much more to DB than MJ did. Punishing PB would also punish DB.

Yeah, I see your point. I guess it would be like that in regards to feelings and emotions. I wish PB didn't have to get punished. It would have been better to perhaps fuss at her and tell PB how dangerous her actions were by perhaps interfering with a couple's personal matters. So now, what is done is done. It is what it is. I often wonder does PB have a chance of still being, you know, alive. What do you think. I pray for the best. Most times, it's not a good ending. I hope it will be this time.
 
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okay went to bed then to work know im home trying to catch up. this isnt making sense. there are lots of missing pieces. i just cant see mj or any person going into a rage over being exposed on fb. its not like private info. is it that serious where mj would jut lose it over a picture. not making sense. detectives need to get with db and find out what all was said from mj mouth once he was exposed on fb. why take it out on pb she the innoncent person in this crazy sceniro. what do i think i believe thats not the motive forpb disapperance.
 
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We're still here. We're up. What do you think about what you have read so far? I think some one would be thrilled to have that money with out consequences and repercussions. But it's a tight situation to be in. Much to weigh.

money talks
 
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okay went to bed then to work know im home trying to catch up. this isnt making sense. there are lots of missing pieces. i just cant see mj or any person going into a rage over being exposed on fb. its not like private info. is it that serious where mj would jut lose it over a picture. not making sense. detectives need to get with db and find out what all was said from mj mouth once he was exposed on fb. why take it out on pb she the innocent person in this crazy sceniro. what do i think i believe thats not the motive for pb disappearance.

How are you today? Good to see they didn't work you to death and that you made it home safely! January, then what do you think happened? Help me out some. Okay, it was not the picture. Then, what could it have been?
 
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