MD - Phylicia Barnes, 16, Baltimore, 28 Dec 2010 #4

[cluciano63]

I hope MJ is really talking to LE this weekend, not just saying the same things he said before. I feel certain he knows what happened to P, whether or not he is actively involved.

This case is beginning to remind me of too many cases, when LE has their suspect(s) and yet can do nothing without evidence or a confession.

It always amazes me that so many people seem to be able to hide bodies so that no one can ever find them. I've been following missing persons cases, where murder is presumed, for years, and so often they are just never found, it is heartbreaking. Not to mention, horrible to think that so many places could be harboring these missing people, all over the country. I think about Stacy Peterson every day and wonder if she will be ever be found. Sorry to be so pessimistic, I can't imagine how P's family must be feeling, and how they even survive the days.

 

[georgiajean]

Something rattling around in my brain today.

IF MJ is involved in something, he places responsibility for his actions on DB's shoulders. I see most everything "released" by him on the social networking sites to be self-serving and setting the stage to blame it on DB. The "she made me do it" defense.

However, if the fairness of innocent until proven guilty, I'd like to try and come up with a plausible scenario that allows for all the odd actions of the POI's, but leaves them all innocent. The only thing I can come up with is a stranger abduction. I'd like to hear from any of you, your thoughts on whether LE thinks the stranger abduction is plausible?

 

[katydid23]

I was just browsing those apartment review sites again, and came upon this disturbing review:
http://www.apartmentratings.com/rate/MD-Baltimore-Reisterstown-Square-674159.html

To summarize, the person says that she broke her lease after five months and moved out. To begin there were a ton of mice (also mentioned by other reviewers), but the thing that made her split was that she was forced into her home, at gunpoint by two strangers who assumed she was there alone. If you read the 5th comment to the review, a commenter stated that a number of shady characters use the complex as a shortcut to get to the shopping center, and that she was stalked by one of these strangers and was forced to take out a restraining order.

I still think MJ is the most likely candidate, but if he's proven innocent... this place just doesn't sound safe in general--especially for a naive young girl.

I agree that this might be a dangerous place. But that is why I don't believe she went anywhere alone. She was a very intelligent girl. She KNEW she shouldn't go out alone that day. And why would she--her sis was on her way over very soon. So there was no reason for her to leave. imo

Besides, MJ had already said PB was showering and getting dressed. Then--suddenly, after a few texts, there is no more contact with PB, and then MJ says she 'is asleep.' That was a major red flag for me. She had just showered, and put on her brand new outfit, which is missing, and her sister is about to come pick her up to go out to shop and eat lunch. Why would she go back to sleep? My teen would never miss the chance to shop and get her hair done.
She wouldn't go back to sleep. Not without texting her sis and explaining she was feeling sick or something.

I could easily believe a stranger would nab her if she had gone out walking alone---but I don't think she left the apartment.

 

[sophclown]

I agree that this might be a dangerous place. But that is why I don't believe she went anywhere alone. She was a very intelligent girl. She KNEW she shouldn't go out alone that day. And why would she--her sis was on her way over very soon. So there was no reason for her to leave. imo

Besides, MJ had already said PB was showering and getting dressed. Then--suddenly, after a few texts, there is no more contact with PB, and then MJ says she 'is asleep.' That was a major red flag for me. She had just showered, and put on her brand new outfit, which is missing, and her sister is about to come pick her up to go out to shop and eat lunch. Why would she go back to sleep? My teen would never miss the chance to shop and get her hair done.
She wouldn't go back to sleep. Not without texting her sis and explaining she was feeling sick or something.

I could easily believe a stranger would nab her if she had gone out walking alone---but I don't think she left the apartment.

I agree with every word you said. Phylicia's mother stated on Nancy Grace

that Phylicia would not have showered, gotten dressed for the day to lie

down

for a nap. Phylicia would have worn shoes, taken her working cell phone

and her debit card if she were going shopping. Phylicia did not ever leave

that apartment unaccompanied and of her free will. Someone needs to

talk to LE now. The waiting has been long enough for Phylicia's family!

 

[Sun48shine]

I will contact LE to see if they had talked to any neighbors regarding a man carrying a tote out of the apartments.

I contacted LE regarding whether they talked to someone in the apartment complex about seeing a man carrying a tote out of the building on December 28, 2010. LE said that they were not informed of this but will check into this matter.

 

[georgiajean]

I contacted LE regarding whether they talked to someone in the apartment complex about seeing a man carrying a tote out of the building on December 28, 2010. LE said that they were not informed of this but will check into this matter.

Thank you for letting us know. I think there were so many people helping with the searches, it is possible no one said anything, thinking that a bunch of people had already told them.
Maybe this is the clue they are waiting for!
Good job.

 

[belimom]

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bs-ed-missing-women-20110202,0,2025935.story

Phylicia Barnes: Missing and invisible
The national media give saturation coverage to women who disappear — if they're white, that is

 

[georgiajean]

This is starting to show the inconsistencies/overlaps in stories. But until we hear from LE, I am not deleting anything. Hope this helps! (new information is in bold)

Time Line
· None of MJ’s brothers were around DB’s house on the 27th. (Per GIJ, Find PB postings, archived by GJ prior to erasure) Contradicted by MJ, who posted that one of his brothers was there on the 27th, but not LilGJ. (MJ Find PB postings, archived by GJ prior to erasure)

· MJ indicated he spoke with DB on the night of the 27th, about 11 pm or so, to say he was coming by on the 28th. (MJ Find PB postings, archived by GJ prior to erasure)

· MJ’s LBC spent the night at DB’s, and MJ was supposed to come pick him up. Peas Interview 3. Verified by MJ Find PB postings, archived by GJ prior to erasure. MJ indicated he has three younger brothers, this is his youngest brother, a teenager, and it isn’t LilGJ (MJ Find PB postings, archived by GJ prior to erasure) This person was referred to as a little brother and a cousin by DB/KB on Peas Interview 3. This person goes by “LBC” for WS purposes.

· The only people who had access to the apartment and to PB, and who would have slept at the apartment the night of the 27th were DB, MJ, PB, and LBC. (Peas Interview 3.)

· 8:45 am- In a brief interview, Phylicia Barnes' elder half-sister, Deena Barnes, 27, said her sister was sleeping when she left her apartment at 8:45 a.m Dec. 28. (http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/ma...-missing-girl-father-20110108,0,2736197.story ) Verified (Peas Interview 3)

· 9 am MJ comes to apartment, picks up LBC and takes him to another family member’s house. (MJ Find PB postings, archived by GJ prior to erasure)

· 10 am or so PB’s first text to DB Peas Interview 3

· 10 am or so PB’s first text to KB. (Peas Interview 3)

· 10 something, MJ arrives back at the apartment to do laundry and pack. (MJ Find PB postings, archived by GJ prior to erasure)

· 10 something After MJ arrived PB was just getting out of the shower, and got onto FB. PB was talking with DB, and told DB that MJ was there, doing laundry. (MJ Find PB postings, archived by GJ prior to erasure)

· Between 10-11, MJ texts DB about getting back together http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/28/ng.02.html

· AM/early PM DB said they spoke on the phone and texted several times that morning and through the afternoon, mostly about setting up a hair appointment for the teen. http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/ma...-missing-girl-father-20110108,0,2736197.story (Verified 1-17 on Find PB FB discussion, since wiped clean. From WS post #488,by NatLock on Thread #1. GJ verifies that this is what she read, also.)

· DB said MJ was moving out at the time and didn’t know MJ was at the house that morning until PB and her were talking on the phone about her getting her hair done, she was ordering PB some Neutrogena Skin ID for her face. She had PB doing a skin evaluation online and contacting a girl about her hair on FB. PB told DB that MJ was there when she talked to her on the phone. (1-17 on Find PB FB discussion, since wiped clean. From WS post #488,by NatLock on Thread #1. GJ verifies that this is what she read, also.)
o Clarified in Peas Interview 3 when DB said: I did not know he was going to be at the apartment that day, except for to pick up his little brother from the apartment. I did know he was picking up the little brother. Peas Interview 3

· 11am-12:30-ish pm DB and PB texted about beauty supplies and hair cuts. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/14/ng.01.html Also Verified Peas Interview 3

· 11:08 (last text FROM PB to KB) “She texted me while I was at work and asked me to come pick her up,” said Kelly Barnes, her half-sister. http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2010/12/31/family-of-nc-teen-missing-in-baltimore-speaks-out/ Verified Peas Interview 3

· 11:09 DB speaks to PB over the phone, asks PB what’s going on. PB tells her MJ is there doing laundry. DB asks PB to look on facebook for the photo of MJ with another woman http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/28/ng.02.html

· 11:30 ish Phylicia was last heard from Dec.28 via Facebook when she posted a note saying she was at her sister's apartment with her sister's boyfriend. http://abcnews.go.com/News/search-continues-honor-student-missing-11-days/story?id=12565597 OR 11:30 am Phylicia’s last Facebook post mentioned being hungry. http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2010/12/31/family-of-nc-teen-missing-in-baltimore-speaks-out/

· Between 10 something and 1:30 when he left, MJ indicated he and PB spoke about Christmas, and she was doing her hair, like she was going somewhere. MJ said PB mentioned that she was hungry and wanted to get something to eat from the store near the house (MJ Find PB postings, archived by GJ prior to erasure)

· 11:38 DB and PB spoke at about 11:38, saying that they were going to try to make a hair appt. and get some beauty supplies together. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/14/ng.01.html

· 12:23 DB’s last communication with PB was 12:23. (1-17 on Find PB FB discussion, since wiped clean. From WS post #488,by NatLock on Thread #1. GJ verifies that this is what she read, also.) Confirmed 12:23 PB acknowledges she finds the photo via text. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/28/ng.02.html

· 12:23 (KB texted back to PB) “I started calling her, texting her, leaving her voicemails, everything. And nothing.” http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2010/12/31/family-of-nc-teen-missing-in-baltimore-speaks-out/

· 12:30 LE told NG PB communicated through text messages with half sister about 12:30 in afternoon. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/14/ng.01.html (Also in http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/15/maryland.missing.girl/index.html?hpt=T2)

· 12:30-ish KB texts PB before she leaves work in D.C. “Are you up and getting dressed?” No Answer. (Peas Interview 3)

· 1:00, KB calls PB. No Answer. (Peas Interview 3)

· 1:00 pm JS says that at 1, MJ said he was taking a nap, and DB had fallen asleep on him. (Told to JS, by DB) http://www.blogtalkradio.com/peasintheirpods/2011/01/04/phylicia-simone-barnes (Verified DB says that MJ told her that PB was asleep at 1:04p. (1-17 on Find PB FB discussion, since wiped clean. From WS post #488,by NatLock on Thread #1. GJ verifies that this is what she read, also.) Confirmed again 1:04 DB tries to reach MJ. He texts her back, says his phone has died and he is trying to find a charger, and that PB is asleep on the couch. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/28/ng.02.html

· 1:20, 1:30 KB calls PB. No Answer. Texts PB, no answer. (Peas Interview 3)

· 1:30 KB was supposed to pick PB up at about 1:30, 1:45. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/14/ng.01.html

· 1:30 pm Family believes PB left to get something to eat. http://www.abc2news.com/dpp/news/re...ia-barnes-was-last-seen-on-tuesday-afternoon-
o “Police say they were told by Deena Barnes that Phylicia left the apartment about 1:30 p.m. and said she was going shopping.” http://www.charlotteobserver.com/20...ore-search-intensifies-for.html#ixzz1BvBq3OTy
o From her missing poster :“It is possible she may have stepped out for a walk to get something to eat at a local establishment, but nobody knows for sure.” http://imaginepublicity.files.wordp...-16-missing-baltimore-maryland-12-28-2010.jpg
o Family members said she sent a text message to her sister. They did not divulge its contents, but said it appeared Barnes had left to find something to eat. http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-missing-teen-baltimore-20110104,0,2597415.story
o DB's boyfriend was the last one to see PB, at the apartment. DB's boyfriend left her sleeping on the couch, and he locked the door behind him. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/peasintheirpods/2011/01/03/a-missing-daughterphylicia-barnes (Verified by MJ Find PB postings, archived by GJ prior to erasure)
o Ex-BF was moving out of the apartment, and says he saw PB asleep on the couch at about 1:30. PB said she was going to take a nap and then go get something to eat. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/14/ng.01.html (Verified by MJ Find PB postings, archived by GJ prior to erasure)
o Contradicted in Peas Interview 3 when KB says that the going to get something to eat, and taking a nap all came from MJ. KB did not verify the text from PB.

· 3:08 KB Calls DB to see if she knows where PB is, still can’t reach her by phone. DB tells her MJ said she was sleeping on the couch at 1:30, so she’s probably still sleeping. KB decides PB will call her when she wakes up. (Peas Interview 3)

· 4 pm JS has bad feeling about something. Not sure what it is. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/14/ng.01.html

· Time???“My daughter’s friends came home,” said Russell Barnes, “and the door was unlocked and the music was loud. That’s all they can tell me.” http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2010/12/31/family-of-nc-teen-missing-in-baltimore-speaks-out/

· 4:50 PM MJ came back to the house, PB was not there. His LBC was there. (MJ Find PB postings, archived by GJ prior to erasure)

· 5:00 pm Then, at 5 pm, MJ texted DB and said that PB was up and active. http://www.wbtv.com/global/category....partnerclipid= (no longer available Was raw, unedited interview with JS)

· 5:10 pm When MJ came back to the apartment about 5:10, the door was unlocked, music in the apartment was turned up extremely loudly. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/14/ng.01.html

· 6: pm DB then got home at 6p and found PB gone. She thought that PB woke up and called KB to come get her. (1-17 on Find PB FB discussion, since wiped clean. From WS post #488,by NatLock on Thread #1. GJ verifies that this is what she read, also.)

· After 6pm DB called KB, BB, MJ. Said MJ did not respond for about an hour. So DB called Uncle and Dad. Then called the police. (1-17 on Find PB FB discussion, since wiped clean. From WS post #488,by NatLock on Thread #1. GJ verifies that this is what she read, also.) Verified-- DB said she called, in this order, KB, BB, MJ, LBC, Uncle, Dad, LE. (Peas Interview 3.)

· DB said she heard back from MJ at 6:11. This contradicts her statement above. (Peas Interview 3.)

· 6:30 Brother BB got a call from DB at 6:30, looking for PB. DB called back 15 min. later, to make sure he wasn't playing a joke on her, that she could not find PB. He told her to contact their dad. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/peasintheirpods/2011/01/03/a-missing-daughterphylicia-barnes

· 6:30 PB's father was texted around 6:30 pm, from DB. "911, I can't find PB." http://www.blogtalkradio.com/peasintheirpods/2011/01/03/a-missing-daughterphylicia-barnes

· 6:30-7:30 Brother said DB's computer was still open when he got there, and PB's email was open. Brother checked her email (in/out box), history, spam folder, etc. He did not find anything fishy. She has Skype, and the only people on her SKYPE list are her friends. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/peasintheirpods/2011/01/03/a-missing-daughterphylicia-barnes

· 7:30 DB calls LE. LE arrives by 8:30. (Peas Interview 3)

· 8-ish PM JS called PB, got voice mail. Called again 5 min. later, got voice mail. Called DB and learned the news. Had DB put LE on the phone. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/14/ng.01.html

 

[SheWhoMustNotBeNamed]

Phylicia Simone Barnes

Endangered Missing from Baltimore City, Maryland since December 28, 2010

Age: 16 -- Height: 5'8" -- Weight: 120 lbs -- Hair Color: Brown -- Eye Color: Brown

Phylicia has a tattoo of a rose on her lower right leg.


Phylicia was visiting the Baltimore area with her family when she disappeared on December 28, 2010. The last person to see her, the ex-boyfriend of her half-sister, has hired an attorney. Multiple searches for Phylicia have turned up no sign of her whereabouts.


NCMEC

NamUs

 

[investigate1]

Editing:
Thank you for the update. Okay, so MJ did not spend the night. He came to pick up LBC at 9-ish am. Shortly after DB leaves for work. I wonder if PB woke up once MJ arrived. MJ never states how long he and LBC stay there before departing but it was said that the two of them left. MJ drops off LBC at family member's home, then returns around 10-ish am. (not certain if PB starts texting DB before MJ arrives).

Around the time MJ returns, PB is exiting the shower. PB doesn't have to open the door because MJ has a key. MJ states that PB was getting out of the shower around 10-ish am. PB then gets dressed, goes over to the couch, uses laptop to go online. MJ states he sees a white and blue screen and considers that to be FB. (not quoted).

In the mist of PB being on FB, PB also has phone contact with both sisters around that time. MJ states that PB was on her phone with DB or KB and was doing her hair. MJ states that while away from PB he overhears PB tell someone on the phone that MJ was over to the apt doing his laundry. (not quoted).

11am-12pm DB and PB text back and forth about beauty supplies/skin care etc..
11:08am was last phone contact with PB and KB. PB is saying come pick me up etc..

11:09am DB ask PB what's going on. PB says MJ is over doing laundry. That's a whole hour after PB gets out of the shower. Once DB discovers MJ is over, DB then ask PB to snoop online about MJ and another female. That's extra risky if DB knew MJ not too far away.

11:30-ish am was PB's last post on FB stating that MJ was over and that she was hungry.

MJ states he and PB even chatted for a few about x-mas etc..Not certain what time that chat was.

11:38am DB and PB speak about hair app.
12:23pm DB’s last communication with PB. Almost an hour had past from last phone contact. Maybe because DB was cursing out MJ on the phone. But it seems like KB would have been able to get a call in to PB. jmo
12:23pm KB begins texting and calling PB but gets no answer or reply.
12:30pm LE told NG PB communicated through text messages with half sister (I guess DB)
12:30pm KB attempts to call and still gets nothing. (Seems like they were worried about something right then and there) with all those calls and text, as if they were concerned (around 12:30pm) and KB said she hadn't heard from PB since 11:08am. (How is it that DB had contact but KB didn't)

1:00pm KB then tries to contact PB. Still nothing.
1:04pm MJ tells DB that PB went back to sleep.
1:20pm-1:30pm KB continues to try and make contact. Still nothing.

These are a lot of calls and texts between PB, DB and KB. Almost like panic/worried calls and texts. We already know PB wouldn't walk off somewhere on the streets on her own. MJ had a car to just simply take PB to go grab a bite to eat. We know PB could not have went back to sleep in such a short amount of time, unless PB was drugged. PB was completely alert if she had so much activity going on. If she was drugged, someone would have to slip her something. The only way to slip her something is in her food or drink and no one said that PB ever got food or drink. PB would not have drank liquor or smoked during that time because she knew she had somewhere to go.

PB was in an uncomfortable position once again in my opinion (is why there were so many phone calls). I believe BOTH sisters knew PB was very uncomfortable. jmo. Too many phone calls before and after PB lost contact. Toooo many calls. NOT a stranger abduction. Too much drama going on.

 

[georgiajean]

Editing:
Thank you for the update. Okay, so MJ did not spend the night. He came to pick up LBC at 9-ish am. Shortly after DB leaves for work. I wonder if PB woke up once MJ arrived. MJ never states how long he and LBC stay there before departing but it was said that the two of them left. MJ drops off LBC at family member's home, then returns around 10-ish am. (not certain if PB starts texting DB before MJ arrives).

Around the time MJ returns, PB is exiting the shower. PB doesn't have to open the door because MJ has a key. MJ states that PB was getting out of the shower around 10-ish am. PB then gets dressed, goes over to the couch, uses laptop to go online. MJ states he sees a white and blue screen and considers that to be FB. (not quoted).

In the mist of PB being on FB, PB also has phone contact with both sisters around that time. MJ states that PB was on her phone with DB or KB and was doing her hair. MJ states that while away from PB he overhears PB tell someone on the phone that MJ was over to the apt doing his laundry. (not quoted).

11am-12pm DB and PB text back and forth about beauty supplies/skin care etc..
11:08am was last phone contact with PB and KB. PB is saying come pick me up etc.. (Just wanted to insert that PB texted KB this. And KB was at work. KB did not TRY to contact PB until just before she left work.)

11:09am DB ask PB what's going on. PB says MJ is over doing laundry. That's a whole hour after PB gets out of the shower. Once DB discovers MJ is over, DB then ask PB to snoop online about MJ and another female. That's extra risky if DB knew MJ not too far away.

11:30-ish am was PB's last post on FB stating that MJ was over and that she was hungry.

MJ states he and PB even chatted for a few about x-mas etc..Not certain what time that chat was.

11:38am DB and PB speak about hair app.
12:23pm DB’s last communication with PB. (This was a text from PB. I find it very curious that as PB was making her last text, KB was trying to reach her and was not able to. SOOOO many convenient confluences of time, imo) Almost an hour had past from last phone contact. Maybe because DB was cursing out MJ on the phone. But it seems like KB would have been able to get a call in to PB. jmo
12:23pm KB begins texting and calling PB but gets no answer or reply.
12:30pm LE told NG PB communicated through text messages with half sister (I guess DB)
12:30pm KB attempts to call and still gets nothing. (Seems like they were worried about something right then and there) with all those calls and text, as if they were concerned (around 12:30pm) and KB said she hadn't heard from PB since 11:08am. (How is it that DB had contact but KB didn't) (I believe KB hadn't heard from PB, but I didn't get the sense she was concerned until she tried to get ahold of PB. KB was at work, and it may have been after the fact that she realized, hey, I haven't gotten a text from PB since 11:08...)

1:00pm KB then tries to contact PB. Still nothing.
1:04pm MJ tells DB that PB went back to sleep.
1:20pm-1:30pm KB continues to try and make contact. Still nothing.

These are a lot of calls and texts between PB, DB and KB. Almost like panic/worried calls and texts. We already know PB wouldn't walk off somewhere on the streets on her own. MJ had a car to just simply take PB to go grab a bite to eat. We know PB could not have went back to sleep in such a short amount of time, unless PB was drugged. PB was completely alert if she had so much activity going on. If she was drugged, someone would have to slip her something. The only way to slip her something is in her food or drink and no one said that PB ever got food or drink. PB would not have drank liquor or smoked during that time because she knew she had somewhere to go.

PB was in an uncomfortable position once again in my opinion (is why there were so many phone calls). I believe BOTH sisters knew PB was very uncomfortable. jmo. Too many phone calls before and after PB lost contact. Toooo many calls. NOT a stranger abduction. Too much drama going on.

Yeah! Good condensation!
I respectfully inserted some bold, itallic comments, seemed easier than trying to explain.
I think that so many stories and reports have gone out, and often DB and/or KB was witholding information or only telling part of the story. I think we need to get a clean, cleared up time line, that reflects the full story. Hopefully LE or someone will provide that. Because it may be that DB telling about the skin care and hair appointment was a way to cover for the conversation and sleuthing she was doing with PB. These events occur in the same time frame.

Similarly, MJ said that he "thought" PB was on FB because he "caught" the blue and white screen. He's telling the truth, and he's telling more...
MJ saying that he heard about the guy who made PB uncomfortable and "no, it wasn't one of my brothers." Well, he's telling the truth, and more. It was either himself who made PB uncomfortable, or it was LBC, who is not actually a brother, but a cousin, but not really, he's a brother by marraige and heart.

I believe MJ has not lied about anything. He just hasn't told the entire truth, if that makes sense.

 

[MsOh]

I think that so many stories and reports have gone out, and often DB and/or KB was witholding information or only telling part of the story. I think we need to get a clean, cleared up time line, that reflects the full story. Hopefully LE or someone will provide that. Because it may be that DB telling about the skin care and hair appointment was a way to cover for the conversation and sleuthing she was doing with PB. These events occur in the same time frame.

Similarly, MJ said that he "thought" PB was on FB because he "caught" the blue and white screen. He's telling the truth, and he's telling more...
MJ saying that he heard about the guy who made PB uncomfortable and "no, it wasn't one of my brothers." Well, he's telling the truth, and more. It was either himself who made PB uncomfortable, or it was LBC, who is not actually a brother, but a cousin, but not really, he's a brother by marraige and heart.

I believe MJ has not lied about anything. He just hasn't told the entire truth, if that makes sense.

Great points. I also agree that DB and KB are only revealing part of the story, but I believe that they are withholding information from the public rather than from LE. I believe there are certain things that LE does not think the public needs to know ATM, as they aren't looking for people to solve the case, but rather are looking for witnesses and new information. I believe LE when they say that the Barnes family have been fully cooperative, and that MJ has not been.

By the way, has there been any news on the results of DB's drug test, which she mentioned taking in one of the Peas interviews? I expect the results are back by now.

 

[Cubby]

FWIW, IMO MJ did tell much of the truth. He just added the sleeping, imo, to twist events to his truth, or how he might be able to justify explaining without lying (to convince himself he was telling the truth even though he knew the context in which he was using that word was purposely inaccurate.)

I'm incredibly disturbed by the fact DB was so engrossed in the drama going on between herself and MJ she failed to even comprehend what was happening when she put PB into the middle of this volatile relationship of hers. I do not believe for a second she was blind to MJ's temper. I can only guess that perhaps they both had tempers and while this was happening they (DB and MJ) were so engrossed in their own heated emotions. It blows my mind that DB had not one warning sign that when communication was abruptly cut off after she asked PB to snoop on FB it did not occur to her PB might be in trouble. Instead, she buys MJ's story about PB getting something to eat. She's checking on his new 'gf' yet she buys what he feeds her about PB hook line and sinker. So what was it about him that made her distrust him herself yet she trusts him in the midst of this drama with her sister?

Not to mention, MOST people can allow themselves to be distracted from the problems in their everyday lives while at work. So here we have a 27 yr old woman who works in a pharmacy type environment where her focus should be on (perhaps prescription drugs) work and her sister but instead she is focusing on snooping on FB. :furious:

I can't even begin to describe how angry this makes me. I'm trying to remind myself DB's carelessness was not an excuse for MJ to act as he (likely) did..... but if not for those actions the course of events would have likely gone entire 'nother direction. Forgive me for saying this reminds me of those mothers who neglect their kids while playing farmville.

I'm just heartbroken for PB and JS. My prayers go out to them both and I am feverishly praying whoever is responsible for PB's disappearance consceince weighs so heavy on them they tell the truth. Karma.

JMO

 

[Cubby]

From my above post as I am not done ranting yet and was in a hurry earlier.

It blows my mind that DB had not one warning sign that when communication was abruptly cut off after she asked PB to snoop on FB it did not occur to her PB might be in trouble.

Not only does it not occur to her something might be amiss due to the abrupt loss of communication but when did communication end between DB and MJ? If two people in a relationship are going back and forth with angry calls and texts and it suddenly stops presumably the same time communication with your sister suddenly stops how did that not raise an alarm? Or, did MJ continue to text DB........ Boy would I love to see those phone records. Because if MJ was still texting away in this 'argument' between him and DB then why did he not get concerned....

Too many holes in this story from one side and too little forthcoming info from the other.

:rant:

JMVHO

 

[Falconi]

From my above post as I am not done ranting yet and was in a hurry earlier.



Not only does it not occur to her something might be amiss due to the abrupt loss of communication but when did communication end between DB and MJ? If two people in a relationship are going back and forth with angry calls and texts and it suddenly stops presumably the same time communication with your sister suddenly stops how did that not raise an alarm? Or, did MJ continue to text DB........ Boy would I love to see those phone records. Because if MJ was still texting away in this 'argument' between him and DB then why did he not get concerned....

Too many holes in this story from one side and too little forthcoming info from the other.

:rant:

JMVHO

I'm in total agreement.

According to the sourced timeline, graciously provided by GeorgiaJean, 12:23 pm was the last communication dB receives from PB. This is when PB texts to confirm photos of mj with another woman. Then for some reason, rather than dB following-up, seems to be trying to reach PB.
This is per the sourced timeline.

Not until 3:08 pm, again per timeline, that kB calls dB to say that she can't reach PB.
WTH?!?!

dB, first of all, shouldn't have placed her sister in such a horrible position, alone at that.
Yet even after that atrocity of judgment, the light-bulb moment never happened? What have I done? I've got to get over there and handle this situation myself-mj just might flip out on my sister!

Given the circumstances that *dB* created, she could have at least left work and come home to ensure the safety of PB, her own sister.

I'm praying that PB will be found alive. I have a feeling that whatever happens, it will not be courtesy of the folks JS trusted with her daughter.

Jmho

:maddening:

 

[belimom]

From my above post as I am not done ranting yet and was in a hurry earlier.



Not only does it not occur to her something might be amiss due to the abrupt loss of communication but when did communication end between DB and MJ? If two people in a relationship are going back and forth with angry calls and texts and it suddenly stops presumably the same time communication with your sister suddenly stops how did that not raise an alarm? Or, did MJ continue to text DB........ Boy would I love to see those phone records. Because if MJ was still texting away in this 'argument' between him and DB then why did he not get concerned....

Too many holes in this story from one side and too little forthcoming info from the other.

:rant:

JMVHO

This is especially true if PB was involved in looking up the pictures... and all of a sudden - she's asleep? It would be one thing if DB hadn't really communicated with PB all morning or if PB was just lazing around. But PB was up, getting ready, waiting for KB to pick her up, AND looking at stuff on the computer. Then - she's all of a sudden asleep.

MOO

 

[georgiajean]

"asleep"
1:08 or whenever DB communicated her rage to MJ, that's when she was informed about PB's status.
What can "asleep" stand for?
Why this was not a concern for DB or KB is beyond me.

I agree w/Cubby-- this was an avoidable situation, sparked by DB. Though it does not absolve MJ or whoever did whatever happened to PB, DB owns some of this. As I said before, I believe MJ intends to lay this at DB's feet. I can hear the argument now: He is an innocent victim, and was forced to do what he did. DB "knows" how he is, and should have known what would happen. I can hear the typical addict/rage-aholic/abuser spiel now...

 

[Falconi]

Then for some reason, rather than dB following-up, *kB* seems to be trying to reach PB.


I needed to add *kB* to that statement from my earlier post.
It may read a lot clearer now.

 

[investigate1]

I join the rest who are upset with DB's actions. Yes, DB must have seen in the past that MJ has a temper when provoked or whenever (jmo). I'm almost certain that DB has spoken with KB in regards to MJ's temper as well. (again, jmo). I don't want to bash anyone. Yet, it was selfish for DB to be more concerned over her personal matters first (before PB's safety). DB is the sister that worked closer to the apt and could have rushed to the apt right away.

I feel sorrow and pain for PB and JS. PB was in a no win situation. Once the drama escalated, PB had no where to go. No where to run and no where to hide. She wasn't familiar with neighbors or the area. Might have said hi and bye or short conversation with others that resided in the building.

Once the drama escalated, the first thing that an angry man is going to do is, cripple the female by snatching her phone away. An angry man will snatch any and every phone that is located in the apt/house. He doesn't want the female to have no way of reaching out for help.

The female may then attempt to exit the apt by front or sliding door, but the angry man will not allow her to escape to the outside. That is another way of seeking help. Therefore, PB had no chance to escape. (absolutely not some kind of stranger who abducted PB)

Next, what's left for the female to do is, attempt to run into the bathroom or a room where a door can be locked and pray to GOD the angry man will calm down and become level headed. If he doesn't, he will kick the door in. There has not been any reports of any damage inside of the apt. There-fore PB probably didn't get a chance to lock herself away to safety.

A female will try to protect herself by running into the kitchen to grab a knife or some sort of weapon. PB probably didn't have a chance to do that either.

The angry man could have threatened the female with a weapon but it doesn't matter if he has a weapon or not because his hands then become the deadly weapon.

If a glass or glass bottle is sitting around, the female will attempt to grab it and break it, to use it to protect herself. If PB had her phone, once she discovered that neither of her sisters could get to her quick enough, PB would have called 911, just as DB mentioned that she text 911 to someone (stating that PB was missing). MJ probably cleaned up or had his LBC or lil bro clean up any small amount of mess in the apt that was created.

Excuses that have been made:
1. poor phone reception. Not a chance. The phones were working fine. Plus, if PB was able to talk or text DB, if an incoming call or text was sent, that means PB was in good location to receive.

That means, who ever used poor reception as an excuse, was on defensive mode to help cover up.

2. Someone stated immediately that all of the brothers were with him or at their mothers home on 27th. MJ corrected that statement. However, there was no confusion there. Another attempt to protect all brothers/cousin.

3. (Excuse of) If DB wouldn't have asked PB to snoop. Not! For a man to say that he can not speak for another mans actions, that also means, be man enough to be held responsible/accountable for your OWN actions.

4. A moments thought slip up.. By attempting to be a wise butt, someone posted on the find PB FB group, like this status if you think we are the killers. How cocky can a person get? and who would even find humor in that post begets me.

PB was in a no win situation. JMO. We need to locate PB!!!

In regards to another case. Did anyone see the video footage of the little girl who was baby sitting in the motel, she ran out of the room Holding her shoes and coat, but the man ran after her and cornered her and forced her back into the room.

 

[Falconi]

What are the implications...

JS has been at odds with pB's father.
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/blog/2011/01/


PB's father "denounces" JS
http://annyjacoby.wordpress.com/201...m-baltimore-a-month-ago-police-have-no-leads/

When JS flew to Baltimore, rB-PB's father, would *not allow* JS to talk to dB. Amazingly, per JS, when she asked where mj was,) said that the family sent him away from them.
http://www.wbtv.com/global/category.asp?c=195957&clipId=5445822&autostart=true



Something is fundamentally wrong with ANYBODY who would obstruct a mother from any and every avenue of finding her child.

Me thinks that the very least one could do, would be to explain the circumstances of the day to a desperately hurting JS.

I don't see a shred of compassion from the B family to JS (jmo) and this whole business is mercurial as anything that I've ever seen in my life.

May God help PB and JS.