MD - Phylicia Barnes, 16, Baltimore, 28 Dec 2010 #4

[AmandaReckonwith]

Album updated, TY all for the links

 

[investigate1]

I don't see how MJ had time to move much of his belongings out of the apt between 10am and 11am plus do laundry. He was too busy being up underneath PB to get any of that stuff done. Then he says, he sees/hears PB's phone sounding off around 1pm. From that point, he gets on the phone with DB. Then leaves at 1:30pm. He couldn't have done much of anything (as far as packing and laundry goes). He was occupied with what PB was doing and busy listening to PB's phone conversations. I think he did, whatever he did to PB and then left the apt shortly afterward with PB. She's not his laundry or his personal belongings. What's wrong with him. I don't know how phone pinging works. I wonder if LE pinged PB's phone while it was still in the apt and if they were able to ping her phone once it left the apt (up to a certain point and time).

 

[belimom]

I don't see how MJ had time to move much of his belongings out of the apt between 10am and 11am plus do laundry. He was too busy being up underneath PB to get any of that stuff done. Then he says, he sees/hears PB's phone sounding off around 1pm. From that point, he gets on the phone with DB. Then leaves at 1:30pm. He couldn't have done much of anything (as far as packing and laundry goes). He was occupied with what PB was doing and busy listening to PB's phone conversations. I think he did, whatever he did to PB and then left the apt shortly afterward with PB. She's not his laundry or his personal belongings. What's wrong with him. I don't know how phone pinging works. I wonder if LE pinged PB's phone while it was still in the apt and if they were able to ping her phone once it left the apt (up to a certain point and time).

I hope so... I really hope so. But, I personally think she was moved. Just a gut feeling but I think he moved her somewhere immediately, then later found a better place after dark - whether that night or another night. I don't think he planned it or thought it through, so I don't believe he had the best location figured out. How awful to even type out...

 

[Cubby]

I hope so... I really hope so. But, I personally think she was moved. Just a gut feeling but I think he moved her somewhere immediately, then later found a better place after dark - whether that night or another night. I don't think he planned it or thought it through, so I don't believe he had the best location figured out. How awful to even type out...

Could be. However, MJ had to know LE is 'watching' him so it would be quite risky imo to have moved her body at a later time.

That is why I am hoping the ping maps led to both survellience video from traffic and toll camera's as well as provided a map of MJ's whereabouts the day PB went missing which LE can and is searching without making that public knowledge.

JMO

 

[Norwegian]

I just discovered this case today and I must say it is chilling. Been reading here and there and I'm not fully updated yet, but I wish someone would hit hard on the "sisters" and MJ.

 

[Falconi]

I saw this article earlier and it was almost a verbatim duplicate of one posted from another news site a few posts back.

I agree it is odd the FB snooping info is absent. IMO, it goes back to DB's comment, we aren't focusing on anything negative. I was also a bit taken back that RB said his daughter DB was not aware how many family members she had in Baltimore. However that is not really here nor there other than to indicate perhaps this family wasn't as close as they are trying to portray. I think they are sticking together and sadly have 'retreated' to some extent based on anger verbalized by JS. Sad to see a tragic event is what brought or appears to be bringing this family together.

or perhaps it is just my personal experiences of having known almost all of my grandparents siblings, all of my parents cousins etc etc.

Anyhoo, whatever is dividing the Barnes family from JS must come to a grinding halt yesterday. IMO and that goes for both sides. They need to knock the wall down that has come up between JS and the Barnes and do what is right by Phylicia - period.

(now I sound like my dad, lol)

BBM
This is so very true.
A united front simply HAS to be presented and maintained until PB is returned.
This is no time for squabbling, vendettas, or defensive posturing, imho.

Whoever is responsible for PB's disappearance can only benefit from internal family strife, and PB can only be harmed by it. jmo

There's a comment on the Pray For PB FB page by a Pa. Br., (used the first two letters of the name to distinguish between PB.) Someone asked for updates and whether JS has been back to
Bmore. Pa. Br. Rather bluntly says that no, JS has not come back to Bmore to help in the search, then adds that JS was "only" there for two days, then left, and has not been seen "since."

Imo-the tone of that remark speaks volumes.
Heaven only knows what JS is going through right now, and I certainly pray for her strength.
There's something about hearing a MOTHER's plea that just may strike a chord with he coldheart/s responsible for PB's disappearance.

I pray that JS can attain the strength needed in fighting the good fight of finding her daughter, even if it means keeping a constant vigil in a seemingly cold Bmore.

 

[belimom]

I just discovered this case today and I must say it is chilling. Been reading here and there and I'm not fully updated yet, but I wish someone would hit hard on the "sisters" and MJ.

Norwegian, it is "chilling"... but I don't believe the sisters had anything to do with it. Does DB know more that she's not sharing? "Hunches"? Phone calls/texts? Things MJ said? I don't know. * haven't really watched the videos all the way through, but of the little I saw, she's the one who avoid eye contact the most (to those of you who have seen more, is that correct?).

I think the answers lie with MJ (and maybe one other person).

 

[Cubby]

LE has stated they can not locate PB's phone. Forget where in MSM but that was stated almost from day 1. I think MJ knew what to remove from her phone so it would not be found.

I also think it would be telling if MJ did that with his own phone as well. If there were a flurry of calls and texts from his phone in the morning and evening hours with a several hour window of nothing in the afternoon, that too would be evidence among everything LE is collecting.

My fear is LE will have to make a case without a body. I think MJ is so full of himself his only concern is not getting caught and I don't believe he will provide LE with any useful information until he is faced with charges and convinced he is up a creek unless he talks and tries to make a deal.

JMO

 

[Cubby]

I just discovered this case today and I must say it is chilling. Been reading here and there and I'm not fully updated yet, but I wish someone would hit hard on the "sisters" and MJ.

The one sister DB has been officially cleared per LE.

If I said what I wish would happen to MJ I'd be on time out so will refrain.


Thank you for your interest in Phylicia's case.

 

[belimom]

The one sister DB has been officially cleared per LE.

If I said what I wish would happen to MJ I'd be on time out so will refrain.


Thank you for your interest in Phylicia's case.

Cubby, nothing has been said about clearing KB or BB? Do you think it's b/c they didn't need to be cleared b/c they weren't there that morning? That's what I'm thinking. But wanted to make sure I didn't miss something.

 

[Norwegian]

Norwegian, it is "chilling"... but I don't believe the sisters had anything to do with it. Does DB know more that she's not sharing? "Hunches"? Phone calls/texts? Things MJ said? I don't know. * haven't really watched the videos all the way through, but of the little I saw, she's the one who avoid eye contact the most (to those of you who have seen more, is that correct?).

I think the answers lie with MJ (and maybe one other person).

I think I would go with hunches.... I get the feeling she knew something wasn't right.

But as I said, I haven't read through all the pages yet...

 

[Cubby]

Nothing has been said officially about KB and BB being cleared. I think we can assume they are but nothing has been made official regarding KB and BB being cleared by LE.

Also, IMO, if DB is not making eye contact I think it has to do with an instinct or giant warning signal that it is very possible whatever happened to PB was a direct result of her request PB snoop on MJ's facebook page. I mean, it is pretty obvious imo the last person to see PB alive was alone with her while PB was doing what was requested of her by snooping. The guilt DB is feeling must be tremendous, and I don't blame her - however her request to ask PB to snoop by no means makes her carry the responsiblity for whatever actions MJ took as a result of catching PB snooping. Lots of people snoop - few if any are 'disappeared' as a result of snooping.

I feel for DB. She has to be beside herself to even consider the man she once planned to marry could be responsible for causing harm to her baby sister. Think about how any of us would feel knowing the person we shared our heart and soul with could be capable of such a thing. One would ask themself how could someone ( I thought ) I knew so well be capable of..... it is something which would be incredibly difficult for the mind to grasp until confirmation of such existed.

JMO

 

[Falconi]

There is a jaw-dropping theory/synopsis that's been posted on the Pray For PB page.
The comment was made by J. Bu.
Rightly or wrongly, it's there-for now.

J. Bu. says that detectives need to look at a variety of things, including who runs that page.

FYI

 

[Cubby]

I have to disagree with J. Bu. He apparently hasn't read MSM indicating DB has been officially cleared by LE. MJ was the last person to see PB alive, and there is no way in hades the B family is going to cover for MJ. If anything the B family will brush over the fact that DB requested PB snoop while MJ was at the apartment. And technically, all that does is give us a possible motive. It does nothing more to help find PB.

JMO

 

[georgiajean]

Norwegian, it is "chilling"... but I don't believe the sisters had anything to do with it. Does DB know more that she's not sharing? "Hunches"? Phone calls/texts? Things MJ said? I don't know. * haven't really watched the videos all the way through, but of the little I saw, she's the one who avoid eye contact the most (to those of you who have seen more, is that correct?).

I think the answers lie with MJ (and maybe one other person).

Interesting you brought that up, because I was watching closely, the recent videos that have come out. DB is talking the most, looking at the camera, etc. KB is more withdrawn, doesn't talk much, and what she does say comes across as a bit defensive. JMO

IMO, anything that is not being said is at the request of LE.

ETA And I would imagine KB's behavior is tied to her own guilt, as well, tied to whatever reasons she had for not checking on PB when she didn't answer her phone. Both sisters will carry that forever, and it's gotta be painful. I truly, truly feel for them. As I've said before, the aftermath of poor decisions doesn't usually coincide with the loss of a loved one. I have empathy for them, at the same time as I ask questions, trying to understand why and how, in order to try and find this girl.

 

[georgiajean]

Cubby, nothing has been said about clearing KB or BB? Do you think it's b/c they didn't need to be cleared b/c they weren't there that morning? That's what I'm thinking. But wanted to make sure I didn't miss something.

The really strange thing to me is that BB has never spoken to LE, never been interviewed, anything. Yet he was the first or second person DB called when she couldn't find PB. Why? Because PB wanted a tour of the fire station, and DB thought perhaps BB had picked her up. The fact that BB was on DB's short list of where PB might have been says a lot.

I am not saying BB had anything to do with it. I am just echoing his concerns, expressed in his most recent Peas interview. He seemed a little incredulous that he was not included in the "everyone" that LE indicates they have interviewed.

 

[Cubby]

The really strange thing to me is that BB has never spoken to LE, never been interviewed, anything. Yet he was the first or second person DB called when she couldn't find PB. Why? Because PB wanted a tour of the fire station, and DB thought perhaps BB had picked her up. The fact that BB was on DB's short list of where PB might have been says a lot.

I am not saying BB had anything to do with it. I am just echoing his concerns, expressed in his most recent Peas interview. He seemed a little incredulous that he was not included in the "everyone" that LE indicates they have interviewed.

I would bet that LE did not feel the need to interview BB because 1)They likely verified his work hours. He is a fireman and it would be easy for LE to verify BB's whereabouts when PB went missing. 2) He likely socialized little with DB and MJ.

It speaks volumes to me that LE would not be interested in interviewing BB. It tells me they likely have their man but need further evidence for charges.

JMO

 

[Cubby]

ETA And I would imagine KB's behavior is tied to her own guilt, as well, tied to whatever reasons she had for not checking on PB when she didn't answer her phone. Both sisters will carry that forever, and it's gotta be painful. I truly, truly feel for them. As I've said before, the aftermath of poor decisions doesn't usually coincide with the loss of a loved one. I have empathy for them, at the same time as I ask questions, trying to understand why and how, in order to try and find this girl.

I absolutely agree. And I too truly feel for them both. Hindsight is 20/20 as they say - they can't go back in time and change anything. If I could say just a few things to them, I would say not to take the responsiblity for something someone else did. Neither DB or KB physicially harmed Phylicia. That responsibility rests on the person who disappeared her, not DB or KB. Of course praying that PB is found goes without saying.

JMO

 

[georgiajean]

BBM
This is so very true.
A united front simply HAS to be presented and maintained until PB is returned.
This is no time for squabbling, vendettas, or defensive posturing, imho.

Whoever is responsible for PB's disappearance can only benefit from internal family strife, and PB can only be harmed by it. jmo

There's a comment on the Pray For PB FB page by a Pa. Br., (used the first two letters of the name to distinguish between PB.) Someone asked for updates and whether JS has been back to
Bmore. Pa. Br. Rather bluntly says that no, JS has not come back to Bmore to help in the search, then adds that JS was "only" there for two days, then left, and has not been seen "since."

Imo-the tone of that remark speaks volumes.
Heaven only knows what JS is going through right now, and I certainly pray for her strength.
There's something about hearing a MOTHER's plea that just may strike a chord with he coldheart/s responsible for PB's disappearance.

I pray that JS can attain the strength needed in fighting the good fight of finding her daughter, even if it means keeping a constant vigil in a seemingly cold Bmore.

bbm

IMO, JS was overwhelmed as an outsider, in the city. And an outsider to the Barnes family. That, in combination with her lashing out at DB in the media, made working with the Bmore family impossible. Perhaps they also didn't have the financial means with 2 or 3 other children at home to be in Bmore? I know nothing about the family dynamics, either. I get the feeling JS is a force to be reckoned with, and unable to forgive at this point. And she may have recognized that she was incapable of helping there, so went home. To be incapacitated by grief...I don't know what that feels like. I'd like to think I would be rallying the troupes and going from door to door and doing everything I could. But maybe I would be unable to move, unable to think... So I don't want to criticize family members for how they react or don't react.

 

[georgiajean]

I would bet that LE did not feel the need to interview BB because 1)They likely verified his work hours. He is a fireman and it would be easy for LE to verify BB's whereabouts when PB went missing. 2) He likely socialized little with DB and MJ.

It speaks volumes to me that LE would not be interested in interviewing BB. It tells me they likely have their man but need further evidence for charges.

JMO

In the last few interviews, BB has said he was not around as much as he would have liked. So I would agree with the above (bbm).