MD - Phylicia Barnes, 16, Baltimore, 28 Dec 2010 #4

[Sun48shine]

I seriously hope none of you are encouraging people/sleuthers to go investigate this or any case.

FGS, that is beyond irresponsible. Maybe hinging on illegal. And definitely dangerous.

Bad idea. We sleuthers are not cops.

@AmandaReconwith and @Salem -- Maybe this will clear up why I can go over to the apartment building. I was not trying to get inside of the apartment. I have been a part of the search party that Mr. RB formed with volunteers from Maryland, the Guardian Angels, Sun Reporters, Barnes family and friends. The Baltimore City Police Department are aware of the search party that we all have been participating in. We have been passing out flyers to people in the apartment complex, surrounding neighborhoods, and throughout Maryland. Several people in our search party had gone in the apartment buildings and knocked on doors. I didn't go in the buildings myself until yesterday. Mr. RB had asked a cousin and I to knock on the doors of the neighbors in the apartment building in question. I can choose to refrain from adding my comments on this site, but I will not stop my searching with the search parties.

 

[GodsChild4Ever]

I know I feel you, I feel like we are all just so mixed up with PB with the whens, whys, hows, whos etc.,that as God's children, we just want her to be okay and return home safe to her family and friends and stranges, not to make light of any other
Missing Person(s). Whatever God's will is, it shall be done, becaue He is in control.

 

[GodsChild4Ever]

Sun48shine, don't take things to heart like that, I don't think it was meant the way it was read. The thought is that is a crime scene and everyone is torn up about PB missing and all the mess behind her being missing. I think it was a safety precaution quote. Keep doing what must be the best thing for you and others to do, always protect yourselve and I am sure you know that. God Bless you Sweety and everyone that's particpating in the search for PB and other Missing Family members all over the world.

 

[Sun48shine]

@AmandaReconwith and @Salem -- Maybe this will clear up why I can go over to the apartment building. I was not trying to get inside of the apartment. I have been a part of the search party that Mr. RB formed with volunteers from Maryland, the Guardian Angels, Sun Reporters, Barnes family and friends. The Baltimore City Police Department are aware of the search party that we all have been participating in. We have been passing out flyers to people in the apartment complex, surrounding neighborhoods, and throughout Maryland. Several people in our search party had gone in the apartment buildings and knocked on doors. I didn't go in the buildings myself until yesterday. Mr. RB had asked a cousin and I to knock on the doors of the neighbors in the apartment building in question. I can choose to refrain from adding my comments on this site, but I will not stop my searching with the search parties.

Here is a link regarding our search party --

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/20...08_1_search-disappearance-northwest-baltimore

 

[investigate1]

I would think that the apt should be on lock down. If I can remember, I thought when living in an apt, Once ppl move, keys have to be turned in by a certain day, along with mailbox keys etc. If they are not turned in, the person who's on the lease might have to pay extra money.

As far as notes left on doors, it seems as if LE would have collected those. Perhaps they couldn't collect that note for some reason.

Also, KB mentions from time to time that only she DB and PB were chilling at the apt on the 27th. However, KB had to have gone home at some point in the night. KB would not be able to speak about who may have came to DB's apt after KB left. Which means LBC would have had to arrive at apt late at night (if I have the dates right).

Also, JS mentioned something about not speaking to PB on Sunday (something about PB's phone went to voice mail or something) If I can remember. But she says that SS communicated with PB on Monday the 27th (is when PB told SS) that someone flirted with her and made her feel uncomfortable. I'm taking it that, this activity took place on the 25th or 26th. For some reason, MJ didn't spend the night on the 27th and again, We have MJ mentioning that he knew about the incident (with PB's communication) with someone else (about something that was going on with PB). (meaning, the flirting incident) then, the activity on the 28th. I think MJ is too much involved with PB's activity there in the apt (while PB was visiting).

I think this case will break once a slip up has been found within (MJ and followers). Also, someone here stated that they thought MJ may have known what he was doing when it came to PB's phone and pinging. (everyone knows these days that cell phones will be pinged). I'm wondering if at any point MJ could not reply to DB because he (had) to leave his phone somewhere, to make it seem as if he was at a certain location (that he was really not) and could not reply to DB until he returned back to where he purposely left his phone.

 

[AmandaReckonwith]

Here is a link regarding our search party --

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/20...08_1_search-disappearance-northwest-baltimore

Hi Sun48shine.

I don't mean any offense to you. I appreciate your search efforts as well as your dedication to finding our girl.

I do know how you feel. However, there might be danger in investigating, and even the Guardian Angels take precautions.

People on sleuther forums often advise locals to go check this, go check that. They shouldn't.

This is real life stuff, not entertainment for nosy people.

 

[fleur.de.lis]

Hi everyone. I guess I'm what you could call a super lurker... I've been following this case since I first read about it on CNN.com shortly after PB's disappearance - I just never felt like I had something to add to the conversation until now. I'm originally from Baltimore, but haven't lived there for 15+ years - still have lots of family in the area though.

I can't believe there may have been a dog there the whole time and we're just finding out about it now. In my mind the dog is a game changer because it gives a credible reason why PB would have been outside of the apartment with her slipper boots on. I know for me personally, while I might not go anywhere in my slippers, I would definitely wear my slippers if I was just taking my dogs out to pee.

While of course I'm tempted to think that MJ must be the primary suspect as he was the only person there when PB stopped answering her phone, I feel less likely to believe this if he has no history of domestic assault. If MJ and DB were together for ~10 years, and he has a "temper", I would have to think there would be a record of domestic disturbance or assault arrests, restraining orders, etc. in the Maryland Judiciary database - especially if they were living in multi-resident buildings. A search of DB's name doesn't bring up any evidence of this.

As awful as it sounds to imagine, I propose the following possibility:
So we know that PB is in the apartment, right in the middle of the drama between MJ and DB (phone calls, texts, photos on FB, etc.). MJ is talking to PB about how he wants to get back together with DB; meanwhile PB knows that DB is pissed about the photos of him on FB. To avoid having to talk to MJ (remember her sister says she avoids conflict), PB says she is going back to bed. PB turns off her phone and pretends to take a nap until MJ leaves, so she doesn't have to talk to him about his relationship with DB.

MJ leaves and PB gets up without turning her phone back on. Maybe the dog is whining to go out. Maybe someone saw her taking the dog out to pee and followed her back inside and abducted her.

 

[cat thief]

Could be. However, MJ had to know LE is 'watching' him so it would be quite risky imo to have moved her body at a later time.

That is why I am hoping the ping maps led to both survellience video from traffic and toll camera's as well as provided a map of MJ's whereabouts the day PB went missing which LE can and is searching without making that public knowledge.

JMO

Isn't it incredible the things that can be researched to figure out where someone was traveling during a particular time period? 15 years ago and backwards they needed actual eye witnesses, now there are "eyes" everywhere (electronics) If you don't break the law it doesn't/shouldn't matter much, but if you do break the law they got ya.:loser:

I hope.

 

[investigate1]

Isn't it incredible the things that can be researched to figure out where someone was traveling during a particular time period? 15 years ago and backwards they needed actual eye witnesses, now there are "eyes" everywhere (electronics) If you don't break the law it doesn't/shouldn't matter much, but if you do break the law they got ya.:loser:

I hope.

I hope so too. MJ could have easily and purposely left his cell phone with someone after 1:30pm on the 28th, so when his phone was pinged, it would be pinged at a location where he was not located at, while in route to another location in a vehicle other than his own (in attempts to escape surveillance video) or at least, causing LE or whomever to overlook him in route. Throw ppl off (sort of speak). Who wants to get caught easily? Most ppl don't. So, I'd think he'd want to take precautions. Youngsters these days are hip to modern day technology.

 

[investigate1]

The dog.. The dog would have been accustom to MJ. If the dog lived there too, it would absolutely be accustomed and very comfortable with MJ in the daytime. MJ apparently is the main person at home in the daytime and whoever came over to visit often in the daytime, the dog would have been very accustom to those ppl also. A (dog) gonna always come sniff a new person out. (to see if it really wants to get to know that person or not. The other visitors kept coming around. Therefore, that means the dog was very use to them. MJ would have took the dog out walking before PB did. He's the one who feels more comfortable with the dog and the dog would have felt more comfortable with MJ. I can tell MJ didn't want to have much to do with KB on the 28th (as far as calls/text are concerned) So, I know he wanted to get out of the apt just in case KB would have showed up. That's what I'm getting.

 

[nothingnew]

Hi Sun48shine.

I don't mean any offense to you. I appreciate your search efforts as well as your dedication to finding our girl.

I do know how you feel. However, there might be danger in investigating, and even the Guardian Angels take precautions.

People on sleuther forums often advise locals to go check this, go check that. They shouldn't.

This is real life stuff, not entertainment for nosy people.

But nowhere in the thread has anyone said to "go check this, go check that." Just the opposite as you have probably read since the original post. No offense! (And Thank You for ALL that you do here!!)
Sun48shine's observation of the lack of security for the building gives me more reason to think it was stranger related. Don't know why but I just don't picture it being MJ or anyone "close" to him or DB-maybe an aquaintance-like a neighbor.

 

[investigate1]

But nowhere in the thread has anyone said to "go check this, go check that." Just the opposite as you have probably read since the original post. No offense! (And Thank You for ALL that you do here!!)
Sun48shine's observation of the lack of security for the building gives me more reason to think it was stranger related. Don't know why but I just don't picture it being MJ or anyone "close" to him or DB-maybe an aquaintance-like a neighbor.

That could be true too. It would have had to happen very quickly because, now PB's here and all of a sudden, she's gone just like that. That means MJ would have had to see something or hear something. It still puts him close by because it happened so quickly. I know MJ would have locked the door on his way out. He said PB had not long ago fell asleep. For her to get sleepy so fast, she must have been extra tired (some kind of way). That means acquaintance/neighbor would have to knock. PB wasn't going to let anyone in there. She knew better than that. I would think and hope. PB already had been made to feel uncomfortable once and I think I saw where, DB said that, PB didn't know anyone like that outside of the families.

 

[peeples]

I read PB had visited before.... did the sister live in the same building during that visit??

 

[nothingnew]

Welcome Fleur.de.lis! Great post. This whole dog issue just adds more to everything but your theory sounds closer to what I was thinking. I had thought about the "faking" being asleep but didn't have any actual reason behind it, I forgot about the "avoiding confrontation" statement.

 

[january]

I went to the apartment building this evening at 6:10pm. There are no access codes or access keys to the entrance of the building. I opened the door and went down the steps to apartment #101. Bad idea on my part but I wanted to see if my senses could pick up something!! The door knob was badly dented. The door appeared to have been kicked in. It was partially open but not enough to see inside. I heard someone say "Yeah, come on in here." Their voice sounded like a young male with a raspy sounding voice. I turned around and ran up the steps, got into my truck and went home.

this sounds to creepy to me. who is actually in tis apartment after something mysterious happen

 

[georgiajean]

I read PB had visited before.... did the sister live in the same building during that visit??

Not sure. DB moved to that apt. the end of the summer. (Peas interview 3, explaining list of 20 people).
PB visited during the summer some time (Various interviews of family members). So this could have been PB's first time to that apartment, or second time. Just depends on if she was there in August or June/July.

 

[georgiajean]

There is a new website for PB
http://www.findphylicia.com/
Created/maintained by the Barnes family.

They are papering the North Bend/ Frederick Rd. area today (Saturday). This is the neighborhood where the home with the shed and well that were searched.

They only mention the $25,000 put up by PB's school, not the $10,000 in Bmore. Is that money still available?
And no mention of Mr. Rondeau. In fact, haven't seen him mentioned since the poly for DB was canceled. Would have thought he would be listed in the contacts.

I am confused. Hopefully the page is a work in progress, and more will be added. The information about the circumstances of her missing needs to be expanded.

 

[cluciano63]

I don't understand about the dog; was he/she in the apartment after Phylicia was gone? If she had been walking him, the dog would either have been taken too, or would have returned on his leash without her? That would probably have been noticed.

 

[belimom]

There is a new website for PB
http://www.findphylicia.com/
Created/maintained by the Barnes family.

They are papering the North Bend/ Frederick Rd. area today (Saturday). This is the neighborhood where the home with the shed and well that were searched.

They only mention the $25,000 put up by PB's school, not the $10,000 in Bmore. Is that money still available?
And no mention of Mr. Rondeau. In fact, haven't seen him mentioned since the poly for DB was canceled. Would have thought he would be listed in the contacts.

I am confused. Hopefully the page is a work in progress, and more will be added. The information about the circumstances of her missing needs to be expanded.

Thanks for the update, GJean... I think all of these missing pieces that you mentioned are signs of disjointed efforts, IMHO. :no:

 

[Cubby]

Thanks for the update, GJean... I think all of these missing pieces that you mentioned are signs of disjointed efforts, IMHO. :no:

Sadly, I agree.


Also the dog being reported as allegedly being in the apartment this late is also of concern. It leads me to believe the chance of stranger abduction is less. A stranger, imo,would have seen a grown man (MJ) in/near the apartment and a large dog in/near the apartment. Pretty risky imo. The dog, no matter what the size, might not have turned on it's master, even if another occupant was in trouble. Especially if the person in trouble was not the dogs master.

I do wonder if anyone heard the dog possibly barking or growling being alarmed to something occuring in the apartment.

Also very concerning the outside perimiter doors had no locks.


All very sad, and Phylicia is still missing.