MD - Phylicia Barnes, 16, Baltimore, 28 Dec 2010 #4

[Sun48shine]

Hello All, Sorry that I have not been on this site for a while. DB's apartment was in 5th building, just before Eberle Court name changes to Vincent Ln. The apartment building has parking spots facing the building. If you look diagonally from the building, you can see the walkway to the shopping center by Home Depot. Cameras are posted at the top of the Home Depot building. PB was not seen on these cameras. Trees, bushes and a fence obstruct the view to see over at the shopping center until you get to the walkway.

 

[Sun48shine]

KB works in Washington D.C. It takes from 45 minutes to an hour to arrive in Northwest Baltimore.

 

[investigate1]

I thought I read that MJ's phone battery died while he was ther. Can anyone else remember reading that? If his phone battery died, they may have switched batteries if they had the same phone. If he had to leave and she was going to be there then she could charge her phone. This may be far fetched but just a thought. Also, if someone had been watching and knew she was there alone: the person may have been planning on assaulting her and when MJ showed up, spoiled the plan. They may have taken her to another location to assault her. This is just my opinion and thoughts of possibilities.

That is also a possibility. Strange thing is, most times when people have been accused of doing something, as high leveled as this situation, the accused (if truly innocent) scream, shout and yell "It wasn't me". I didn't do it. I will take a lie detectors test. I will do whatever is necessary to clear my name." etc..

We've seen the complete opposite in this case when it comes to MJ and family members who may have been involved. We've seen jokes, cockiness and other types of language that guilty people normally display. Not saying MJ and family are indeed guilty. But action speaks louder than words in many cases.

adding on: MJ and DB were together for a long time. Through ups and downs they still remained. Most times, when a person such as PB might come to visit, an automatic bond will take place with all people who reside in the home/apt. Unless the visitor has done something to make a person mad or find reason to dislike or not want to bond with the visitor. We do know that there are a couple of incidents that took place while PB was visiting. PB felt uncomfortable over a sexual advance issue. Now people are saying PB snooped for DB, searching for evidence of MJ having an encounter/on going relationship with another female who DB possibly knew. This opens up room for motives.

 

[Sun48shine]

That is also a possibility. Strange thing is, most times when people have been accused of doing something, as high leveled as this situation, the accused (if truly innocent) scream, shout and yell "It wasn't me". I didn't do it. I will take a lie detectors test. I will do whatever is necessary to clear my name." etc..

We've seen the complete opposite in this case when it comes to MJ and family members who may have been involved. We've seen jokes, cockiness and other types of language that guilty people normally display. Not saying MJ and family are indeed guilty. But action speaks louder than words in many cases.

adding on: MJ and DB were together for a long time. Through ups and downs they still remained. Most times, when a person such as PB might come to visit, an automatic bond will take place with all people who reside in the home/apt. Unless the visitor has done something to make a person mad or find reason to dislike or not want to bond with the visitor. We do know that there are a couple of incidents that took place while PB was visiting. PB felt uncomfortable over a sexual advance issue. Now people are saying PB snooped for DB, searching for evidence of MJ having an encounter/on going relationship with another female who DB possibly knew. This opens up room for motives.

I wonder if MJ asked her to help put things in the vehicle, could PB have left her phone on the table in front of his view? He could have taken the battery out and turned it the wrong way. This would have made her think that her phone had stopped working and needed to be re-charged. He probably did the same to his phone too. He probably told her that he would take her to get something to eat at Wendy's or Checkers drive thru and he would bring her back home. If she were wearing her white slipper boots, she would have thought it was okay if she was coming back to apartment. Unfortunately, she was not returned back to the apartment.

 

[Sun48shine]

I contacted LE today to confirm that DB's old apartment on Eberle Rd was broken into on or around February 10th, the same day I went in the building to place flyers. LE said that they received a call that the apartment was broken into. Coincidently, a carjacking occurred in front of state buildings on Tuesday, February 15, 2011. 2 Suspects were involved and captured. One was from West Baltimore and one was from Southwest Baltimore. One already had a warrant out for his arrest. They were definitely on the run and trying to hide out.

 

[georgiajean]

KB works in Washington D.C. It takes from 45 minutes to an hour to arrive in Northwest Baltimore.

KB left work around 12:30. She was supposed to be at DB's apartment by 1:30, given travel time. That's why MJ leaving at 1:30 seems cutting it way, way too close. So I feel he either wasn't involved at all, and truly did leave her sleeping at 1:30, or he knew if KB couldn't reach PB, she would go about her day and not worry about stopping by...

 

[georgiajean]

Okay, new pic of front of 5th building at Eberle Dr.
(thank you sunshine for confirming which building!! Very important.)

6520 Eberle Dr, Baltimore, MD 21215 - Google Maps

 

[investigate1]

KB works in Washington D.C. It takes from 45 minutes to an hour to arrive in Northwest Baltimore.

Most definitely. Sometimes the ride is only no more than 40 minutes, if there is no traffic. That's like a hop, skip and a jump. Especially if a person is accustom to traveling the route. Before you know it, you're right there in DC from Bmore. Right next door is VA. DMV is what some people call those 3 places. or Dc/Md/Va. In certain parts of MD, all you have to do is just cross a bridge to get to VA and DC is like a certain part of Maryland's next door neighbor. Such as, just cross the street from Maryland's side and you're right there in DC. sort of speak.

 

[investigate1]

KB left work around 12:30. She was supposed to be at DB's apartment by 1:30, given travel time. That's why MJ leaving at 1:30 seems cutting it way, way too close. So I feel he either wasn't involved at all, and truly did leave her sleeping at 1:30, or he knew if KB couldn't reach PB, she would go about her day and not worry about stopping by...

Okay. I see KB was suppose to leave work and 12:30pm. I was thinking at 1:30pm. But I do remember hearing 12:30pm was last reported.

 

[georgiajean]

I thought I read that MJ's phone battery died while he was ther. Can anyone else remember reading that? If his phone battery died, they may have switched batteries if they had the same phone. If he had to leave and she was going to be there then she could charge her phone. This may be far fetched but just a thought. Also, if someone had been watching and knew she was there alone: the person may have been planning on assaulting her and when MJ showed up, spoiled the plan. They may have taken her to another location to assault her. This is just my opinion and thoughts of possibilities.

According to DB (interviews) and MJ (Find PB site now scrubbed) PB's phone was vibrating, MJ texted DB to say that PB was asleep and that's why she wasn't answering her phone, and his phone was dieing so he couldn't call her.
All he-said, she-said, so who knows.

 

[GodsChild4Ever]

Hello All, things keep pondering my brain. Two to three days go by and JS does not speak with PB...then DB leaves her sleepin (supposely) and there's no communication. When MJ comes to the apartmen, PB felt compfortable enough to shower while MJ was there? If MJ had some involvement, wouldn't he have goten rid of PB's belongings? Had PB stepped outside of the apartment on the 28th, someone would have sen her from the way the Community is set up. I stll feel lik she was missin prior to the 28th, and they DB, KB, MJ an whoever else) are covering for one anther or each other. I was close to the area today and my did I have a strange feelin...smh...I truly feel that PB is still here in Marland. Call m crazy, it's ok...

 

[Falconi]

Hello everyone-

As outraged as I was in my last post, I understand that things happen, the main objective is finding Phylicia, and that you guys are on the right side of the search.

It's soooooo sad that this bright young lady is STILL missing. JS and family have my deepest and sincerest sympathies. They must be suffering through excruciating thoughts of where their loved one might be.

There have been some utterly disturbing things that I've found while scouring the Internet looking for any tidbits of information/clues in the search for PB.

Before I post, I'll get clearance from a mod/Cubby, to see if it's ok.

 

[investigate1]

Hello All, things keep pondering my brain. Two to three days go by and JS does not speak with PB...then DB leaves her sleepin (supposely) and there's no communication. When MJ comes to the apartmen, PB felt compfortable enough to shower while MJ was there? If MJ had some involvement, wouldn't he have goten rid of PB's belongings? Had PB stepped outside of the apartment on the 28th, someone would have sen her from the way the Community is set up. I stll feel lik she was missin prior to the 28th, and they DB, KB, MJ an whoever else) are covering for one anther or each other. I was close to the area today and my did I have a strange feelin...smh...I truly feel that PB is still here in Marland. Call m crazy, it's ok...

Good day to everyone. I've enjoyed reading the new post this morning. They are very interesting. It is strange that JS, if I can recall, said the last time she spoke to PB was on Christmas day? Can anyone remember. JS and PB had a pleasant conversation. I think they had an opportunity to tell one another that they love each other. On Sunday, I think it was, JS said she called PB and PB phone went to voice mail, if I can recall. But then, JS goes on to say "But SS said she talked to PB on Monday and PB told SS that someone tried to hit on PB sexually, made PB feel uncomfortable and that PB rejected them. I can't remember what else SS and PB talked about or if it was voice communication or by way of text.

Crazy things are known to happen now and day. I think I remember when this case began getting media attention, that I read a FB comment made by KB on the 27th of Dec, 2010 saying that She was chilling with family (I can't remember if she said & friends) She goes on to say that her family member was in town etc...the other person (I can't remember who) replies, Who Phylicia and KB replies yes. KB says, PB wants to know when will she see you (not quoted) the other person says, anytime (I can't remember word for word). So, PB appeared to be okay on the 27th. I don't recall that communication being late in the evening. I don't recall DB's name being mentioned but I guess she was there.

MJ stated on the find PB group, on fb (now removed) that PB was just getting out of the shower when he returned, around 10 ish. I can't say if MJ would have gotten rid of all PB's belongings. It depends on how he wants to stage things out. It depends on how he wants to tell his side of the story. If he was rushing, he may have forgotten somethings or maybe PB hid certain items such as credit cards and money. PB might tell her sisters where she hides those items at, but none of them are going to tell the brothers.

I thought that, if anything happened to PB in the apt, the dogs would have picked that up and the media keeps saying that the inside of the apt holds no clues (not quoted).

 

[nyla]

I too,am inclined to believe that she was missing before the 28th. The circumstances are too neat and compact for things to have happened quickly. It all seems too well planned that even the FBI, police etc. are stumped (unless they are waiting for more evidence.) I might be wrong, but it seems if everything happened in a span of a few hours, chances of more mistakes would have been evident by now.

 

[georgiajean]

I too,am inclined to believe that she was missing before the 28th. The circumstances are too neat and compact for things to have happened quickly. It all seems too well planned that even the FBI, police etc. are stumped (unless they are waiting for more evidence.) I might be wrong, but it seems if everything happened in a span of a few hours, chances of more mistakes would have been evident by now.

While I am inclined to agree, I have to recognize that this would necessitate cover-up by MJ, DB, and KB. I believe that if all three were involved, someone would have cracked by now. The more people involved, the more likely one will have a conscience and speak up.

Something happening before the 28th would need....
1. DB to lie about seeing PB asleep that morning. Granted, she could have seen pillows under a blanket, and assumed it was PB--we all see what we want to see, and if she had no reason to suspect is WASN'T PB, she wouldn't have looked further. I am not sure (does anyone know) if DB actually made verbal communication, and got a sleepy mumble back? Or was it JUST visual?
2. DB and KB to lie about speaking WITH PB via phone, the morning of the 28th. Granted, someone could have pretended to be PB, and if both DB and KB expected it to be PB, they would have heard what they wanted.
3. DB to lie about the Facebook incident, and having PB sleuth. It would have been very strange, though possible, for DB to have that exchange with someone using PB's phone and pretending to be PB.
4. KB to lie about making plans with PB.
MJ to lie about everything that happened on the 28th.

Something happening before the 28th makes things more complicated. What's the phrase, about often times the simplest explanation is the right one? In this situation, I believe the simplest explanations are that either someone took her from the apartment, or she really did walk out (say she used the back door/patio, and thus didn't leave a trail...) and was abducted. All my opinion entirely.

 

[Cubby]

BALTIMORE -- Family and friends of a teen missing since late December gathered Tuesday night for a vigil.

http://www.wbaltv.com/r/26964955/detail.html

Short article and video at link.

 

[Cubby]

A few thoughts. (BBM, because regardless of any other speculation/questions - I still keep coming back to that one hour between 12:30 and 1:30).

First and most importantly, the one thing I keep coming back to is
MJ placed himself at the apartment for the approximate hour between the time communication abruptly ceased (12:30'sh) between PB and her half sisters and the time he claims to have left the apartment (1:30'sh).
He called or texted to ensure KB did not show up as planned believing PB was asleep. Ask yourselves this: Why would MJ have any reason to give a rats patootie if KB came to the apartment, knocked and called and PB was really sleeping? Why would he care if KB spent 10-15 minutes standing outside trying to wake PB? Imo, he wouldn't. Yet for some reason he made that text saying PB was sleeping.

From recent posts, from those who sound possibly familiar with the commute times during early afternoon traffic would take an approximate hour? for KB to arrive from work by 1:30? MJ KNEW where KB was at 12:30ish and he had an idea of what time she should be expected and how long the commute was from her job to he and his gf of 10 years apartment. He knew how much time he had to get whatever done and get out of there.

I don't think he would have pulled up on the sidewalk leading to the front door. It would have attracted not only too much attention the tires would have picked up and left mud tracks on not only the sidewalk area but also the asphalt area of the parking lot.

I also noticed on the previous street view maps there is a large several story office building which overlooks the parking lot. Clearly a truck or vehicle of somekind on the sidewalk or grass would have caught someone's attention either from the office building or within the apartment complex. (Provided that office bldg. is not fully vacant).

He could have pushed or shoved her not meaning to hurt her. He could have pushed her and she hit her head in a way which caused something like a freak accident. (hit a temple or head in the wrong spot...) Heck he could have tried to stop her from walking away from him and she hit her head funny on a drywall corner trying to walk around the corner to get away from him.

It's unlikely MJ would have been moving any heavy furniture, or was he? What type of vehicle was he driving that day? If he rented a truck LE likely has evidence of such. If he borrowed a van or SUV someone is likely not going to lie about that to cover up for MJ.

Whichever way I look at this, the one thing I simply can not get past is that 1 hour window and what good/logical reason MJ would have to call to ensure KB didn't show up for the plans as expected.

JMO and still praying daily Phylicia is found and her family gets answers to her disappearance. She and they deserve that much.

 

[Cubby]

Some additional thoughts..... and I hate bringing this up, but I think it is important.

What day(s) is/are refuse pick up at this apartment complex?
Does the apartment complex have to hire their own scavenger or is this complex's refuse handled by the city? (In my area, apartment complexes and some multi family townhome/condo communities hire their own refuse if it is covered in the homeowners monthly assesment/association fees).

When and at what time is the refuse picked up at the business's in the very immediate area?

How many dumps does the city have? Where are they located? Are they near the routes MJ or anyone he knows frequent?

Do we know if Baltimore LE has done any searching in their local landfills?

My worst fear is Phylicia was tossed into a dumpster before she was even reported missing. I pray to God that thought, even passing my mind is wrong... but no stone left unturned.

 

[Cubby]

I don't think we ever found out what kind of tracking dogs Baltimore LE used. As we have seen throughout WS professional SAR and K-9 dogs are not always equal.

LE still hasn't stated exactly where the dogs lost Phylicia's scent.

Did they use tracking AND cadaver dogs or ???

 

[georgiajean]

New Peas Interview!!!
With Phylicia's friends
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/peasintheirpods/2011/02/24/phylicia-barnes-friends

I can't transcribe at this moment, but when I get time tomorrow I will.