MD - Phylicia Barnes, 16, Baltimore, 28 Dec 2010 #5

[georgiajean]

Ok, now I am confused because this MSM article is stating 5 tips in two months. :waitasec:

http://www.wbaltv.com/r/27465527/detail.html

The BPD presser said 5 tips in 2 months.

 

[georgiajean]

Anyone who is currently on, there's a radio show broadcasting about PB. Might be able to access it later, but not sure. It's live right now.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/geogee/2011/04/08/the-rundown-the-search-continues-for-phylicia-barnes

Just checked, yes, you can access it after it's over. The show begins with PB info, and then goes to other topics.

The guy doing the show is a neighbor of the apartment.

 

[Cubby]

Another article regarding the search efforts for this weekend.


Baltimore police are planning what they describe as a “mass search” on Saturday for Phylicia Barnes, the North Carolina teenager and track star who vanished while visiting Baltimore in December. The new search will involve more than 200 law enforcement officials.

In addition, city police are seeking volunteers to help distribute fliers in the Northwest Baltimore neighborhood where Barnes had been staying with her half-sister. Anyone interested in helping out should call the Public Affairs unit at 410-396-2012

Full article at link:

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/blog/2011/04/police_to_search_for_missing_t.html

 

[Cubby]

While searching for something else I found the following missing persons case of a young mother missing from the Oron Hill MD/Washington DC area. The details of her case are very disturbing - her body has never been found.

Despite her not having yet been charged 5-6, yes 5-6 persons have been charged with her presumed murder. 2-3 adults, 3 minors, ALL being charged as adults. Her missing persons Charley Project profile here.

Something for those remaining persons of interest in Phylicia's case possibly thinking if they don't find Phylicia we'll get away with this. Think again; Not 1, not 2 but 6 persons have been charged with murder in a case where the persons remains have not and are not believed to be found.


I find myself wondering if some or all remain quiet a few months from now will we too be seeing 2,3,4 or possibly more persons charged with murder? whether Phylicia is found or not?

Or will someone who knows the truth come forward leading LE to Phylicia and those responsible for Phylicia's disappearance?

Time will tell.... tick tock tick tock.....

No stone left unturned for Phylicia.

 

[watchful_eye]

Thanks for posting about the search Cubby. I live about 20 minutes from Reisterstown Rd. I would LOVE to help in the search, but I have been caring for my grandmother all week, including this weekend, while my parents are out of town (she lives with them), so it is not feasible. If anyone does go, g-dspeed and I hope there is progress.

Glad to hear Bmore hasn't given up on Phylicia. She deserves justice.

 

[georgiajean]

200 LE searching woods, or 200 volunteers canvassing, or both??
I am wondering if the media mixed things up, or if in the information the BPD gave to news directors, they listed the 200 LE?
From the BPD presser:

We are putting tremendous resources behind this effort. We are going to have roughly 200 members of the community canvassing, going door to door, putting flyers on cars trying to generate as much intelligence as possible so that we can properly investigate the case.

In addition to that, we will have this search effort in this wooded area. It will be led by B'ore city homicide, the FBI, our partners in…All the surrounding counties have been involved, state police, department of natural resources police…it will be a very extensive effort

And a reporter asked

RQ- You are going to have 200 volunteers, citizens who are going out…how did you guys gather up those people to be volunteers?

 

[georgiajean]

Anyone who is currently on, there's a radio show broadcasting about PB. Might be able to access it later, but not sure. It's live right now.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/geogee/2011/04/08/the-rundown-the-search-continues-for-phylicia-barnes

Just checked, yes, you can access it after it's over. The show begins with PB info, and then goes to other topics.

The guy doing the show is a neighbor of the apartment.

He will be doing an update on Saturday or Sunday, after the search. I'll keep watch on it, and post if there's anything.

 

[Cubby]

Thank you GJ'! You're more reliable than the media reporting on this case!
Not only is she transcribing she is now fact checking MSM.
Sheesh, if the B'mor MSM doesn't start fact checking there reporting of this case
the thread is going to end up being nothing but discussing MSM error! :crazy:

 

[georgiajean]

While searching for something else I found the following missing persons case of a young mother missing from the Oron Hill MD/Washington DC area. The details of her case are very disturbing - her body has never been found.

Despite her not having yet been charged 5-6, yes 5-6 persons have been charged with her presumed murder. 2-3 adults, 3 minors, ALL being charged as adults. Her missing persons Charley Project profile here.

Something for those remaining persons of interest in Phylicia's case possibly thinking if they don't find Phylicia we'll get away with this. Think again; Not 1, not 2 but 6 persons have been charged with murder in a case where the persons remains have not and are not believed to be found.


I find myself wondering if some or all remain quiet a few months from now will we too be seeing 2,3,4 or possibly more persons charged with murder? whether Phylicia is found or not?

Or will someone who knows the truth come forward leading LE to Phylicia and those responsible for Phylicia's disappearance?

Time will tell.... tick tock tick tock.....

No stone left unturned for Phylicia.

Thank you for posting this. It is good to know that even if PB's body is never found, the circle of fools will be brought to justice.

 

[georgiajean]

I have a new theory. I've been thinking about the relationships between MJ and his brothers, and the brothers and the 2 cousins.

Before PB's disappearance, there was communication between the brothers and cousins. They played together and partied together. After the disappearance, very very little. Especially from particular brothers. I think that is a key. One of the cousins was living at the apartment. MJ worked a night shift. That would leave DB with the cousin on occasion. Was PB's disappearance a retribution for something that went on between DB and a cousin. A way to hurt them both? Or am I way out in left field on this?

 

[Falconi]

Something for those who have knowledge of what occured the day Phylicia went missing and have not come forward with that information.


ACCESSORY AFTER THE FACT

Whoever, knowing that an offense has been committed, receives, relieves, comforts or assists the offender in order to hinder or prevent his apprehension, trial or punishment, is an accessory after the fact; one who knowing a felony to have been committed by another, receives, relieves, comforts, or assists the felon in order to hinder the felon's apprehension, trial, or punishment. U.S.C. 18


http://www.lectlaw.com/def/a007.htm

Do those of you with information being withheld from LE really wish to risk the consequences and prison time for something someone else was ultimately responsible for? Simply by keeping it a secret?

Local police, State Police and the FBI have all come together to solve this one. Do you really think you can outsmart them?

With as many people who are in the know - can you really trust that someone who is ultimately responsible won't out you first and toss you under the bus to save their own hide? Making a deal for themself.

Are you really willing to risk THAT much - prison time - your ENTIRE future to cover for someone else?

The time is now to give that choice much thought. Once LE finds Phylicia the time to come clean and save yourself either through immunity or a deal will have passed. How much of your life and future are you willing to gamble by not doing the right thing and providing LE with all you know now?

Just wanted to put this on the newest page of the thread.

It bears repeating!

 

[peeples]

I just saw this and sorry if it's a repeat. Says it was just updated this morning

http://www.wbaltv.com/r/27465527/detail.html

A large-scale weekend search of a wooded area is planned as city and federal authorities continue their search for Phylicia Barnes.

 

[Falconi]

I have a new theory. I've been thinking about the relationships between MJ and his brothers, and the brothers and the 2 cousins.

Before PB's disappearance, there was communication between the brothers and cousins. They played together and partied together. After the disappearance, very very little. Especially from particular brothers. I think that is a key. One of the cousins was living at the apartment. MJ worked a night shift. That would leave DB with the cousin on occasion. Was PB's disappearance a retribution for something that went on between DB and a cousin. A way to hurt them both? Or am I way out in left field on this?

Intriguing.

Whenever jealousy enters the equation, anything is possible.

For there to be an obvious change in family dynamics after PB's disappearance, it can only bring greater scrutiny to these poseurs.

Given all of the time that you've devoted to finding PB, all of the social media profiles that you've seen and the patterns of such, your theory bears much consideration.

No doubt, LE has honed in on this as well. They've had the benefit of talking with these POIs and someone has even mentioned this wooded area that will be searched tomorrow.

The clock is indeed ticking, I'd suggest that folks start talking to LE and FAST.

 

[Cubby]

I have a new theory. I've been thinking about the relationships between MJ and his brothers, and the brothers and the 2 cousins.

Before PB's disappearance, there was communication between the brothers and cousins. They played together and partied together. After the disappearance, very very little. Especially from particular brothers. I think that is a key. One of the cousins was living at the apartment. MJ worked a night shift. That would leave DB with the cousin on occasion. Was PB's disappearance a retribution for something that went on between DB and a cousin. A way to hurt them both? Or am I way out in left field on this?

Interesting theory and certainly one for discussion. Myself, I have not gotten any vibes that DB was the cheating type. She strikes as the more family oriented of she and KB. She was the one who externally appears to have embraced and welcomed being reunited with PB, having paid for her airfare this most recent trip.

What I have wondered about is MJ's cheating style. Was he a chronic cheating type that some woman would accept and look the other way or did he attempt to hide any infidelity? How did MJ react in the past if he had been busted cheating? Were there numerous incidents over the years the final straw for this relationship was infidelity? OF course there are other questions surrounding what might of made MJ volatile that morning? Especially knowing he caught PB 'snooping' his FB page.

Why wasn't it clear from the get go there were two males aside from MJ who were alone with PB the day she disappeared? Has it been confirmed LB (little brother) was in fact picked up at 9am and driven to another relatives property? If so, why was C (cousin) left alone with PB? Was C still crashed out from partying the prior evening or was C deliberately left alone with PB while MJ and B left the apartment for a period of time? If so, did MJ walk into a situation he was not expecting and is covering for C or C & LB?

PB being left alone with at least 3 males that day (from what we've heard some confirmed, some may still be rumor - I forget the source for info on both LB and C being there in the am of the 28th) is a great cause of concern.


As an aside, I'm going to chalk up this possibility of C living at the apartment and JS not being informed of such as another one of the poor choices made which unfortunately left PB in the situation she found herself.

I'm also interested in why PB chose Towsen Univ. Some insight to the decisions leading to this choice might open up avenues of research and discussion or confirm things we already suspected...

jmo...

 

[georgiajean]

I just saw this and sorry if it's a repeat. Says it was just updated this morning

http://www.wbaltv.com/r/27465527/detail.html

A large-scale weekend search of a wooded area is planned as city and federal authorities continue their search for Phylicia Barnes.

Thank you! This is an update. They removed the reference to 200 LE. And an FBI investigator is quoted.

Former Federal Bureau of Investigations special agent Tyrone Powers said he has been following the teen's disappearance even if he's not involved in the investigation. "You have no information that she's not alive, so you aggressively pursue this case until you find out otherwise," Powers said. "There is reason to believe that she hasn't gone anywhere else. The word is she's still in the area."

Powers said he thinks police should continue to probe their partners. "There's absolutely someone out there who knows something. She did not disappear into thin air based on the info so far," Powers said. "What they need to do is continue to task informants, other agencies they haven't spoken to."

 

[georgiajean]

Interesting theory and certainly one for discussion. Myself, I have not gotten any vibes that DB was the cheating type. She strikes as the more family oriented of she and KB. She was the one who externally appears to have embraced and welcomed being reunited with PB, having paid for her airfare this most recent trip.

What I have wondered about is MJ's cheating style. Was he a chronic cheating type that some woman would accept and look the other way or did he attempt to hide any infidelity? How did MJ react in the past if he had been busted cheating? Were there numerous incidents over the years the final straw for this relationship was infidelity? OF course there are other questions surrounding what might of made MJ volatile that morning? Especially knowing he caught PB 'snooping' his FB page.

Why wasn't it clear from the get go there were two males aside from MJ who were alone with PB the day she disappeared? Has it been confirmed LB (little brother) was in fact picked up at 9am and driven to another relatives property? If so, why was C (cousin) left alone with PB? Was C still crashed out from partying the prior evening or was C deliberately left alone with PB while MJ and B left the apartment for a period of time? If so, did MJ walk into a situation he was not expecting and is covering for C or C & LB?

PB being left alone with at least 3 males that day (from what we've heard some confirmed, some may still be rumor - I forget the source for info on both LB and C being there in the am of the 28th) is a great cause of concern.


As an aside, I'm going to chalk up this possibility of C living at the apartment and JS not being informed of such as another one of the poor choices made which unfortunately left PB in the situation she found herself.

I'm also interested in why PB chose Towsen Univ. Some insight to the decisions leading to this choice might open up avenues of research and discussion or confirm things we already suspected...

jmo...

This is what I have, for what it's worth:
The Washington Post article is the first MSM source to reveal the 16 yr old brother and 21 yr old cousin were at the apartment the night of the 27th.
The Washington Post article also stated that MJ picked up the little brother in the morning.
Nothing has been said about the cousin, as far as when he left the apartment, IF he left the apartment, etc.
MJ stated (Find PB, now scrubbed) he picked his little brother up that morning and took him to another family member's house (my guess is the 30 yr. old brother, or the mom/aunt of one of the J brothers.).
Based on social networking, I thought the cousin was at work by 9. No proof, however.
Some of the brothers/cousins went fishing that day, which is one of the reasons I think LE is searching an area that requires department of natural resources police... If it is the place I think they are searching, there's fishing available there.

Yeah, if you are connected to Phyliica's disappearance, it would be a good idea to come forward now. Once this train leaves the station, there is no getting on board. either you want to help, or you want to hide. No sitting on the fence.

Added--And to clarify, I don't know that any interaction beyond comfort and kindness had to occur between DB and cousin to raise jealousy in a male like MJ. He liked to have his cake and eat it to. He was blatantly open about his other girl friend on social networking, as was the rest of his family. I got the feeling that some family members felt bad for DB, and may have been protective of her. That alone might be enough to set MJ off. The cousin has a streak of kindness in him, and he clearly cared for DB, from what I've seen. The other cousin (brother of the one who lived in the apartment, gee I wish we could use acronyms for them) is the only family member to consistently post kind thoughts about PB, which is significant, in my opinion.

 

[Cubby]

Thank you! This is an update. They removed the reference to 200 LE. And an FBI investigator is quoted.

Just to mention it was the baltimore sun blog which had the inaccurate info stating 200 LE officials would be out surfing. Since this MSM outlet left me caught with my pants down twice - they now stand out to me as one to not only triple check but I don't want to see any other MSM articles blamed for the B'mor Suns factual error. :crazy:

 

[Cubby]

This is what I have, for what it's worth:
The Washington Post article is the first MSM source to reveal the 16 yr old brother and 21 yr old cousin were at the apartment the night of the 27th.
The Washington Post article also stated that MJ picked up the little brother in the morning.
Nothing has been said about the cousin, as far as when he left the apartment, IF he left the apartment, etc.
MJ stated (Find PB, now scrubbed) he picked his little brother up that morning and took him to another family member's house (my guess is the 30 yr. old brother, or the mom/aunt of one of the J brothers.).
Based on social networking, I thought the cousin was at work by 9. No proof, however.
Some of the brothers/cousins went fishing that day, which is one of the reasons I think LE is searching an area that requires department of natural resources police... If it is the place I think they are searching, there's fishing available there.

Yeah, if you are connected to Phylica's disappearance, it would be a good idea to come forward now. Once this train leaves the station, there is no getting on board. either you want to help, or you want to hide. No sitting on the fence.

First let me pick my jaw up off the floor some of this 'circle' went fishing the day PB disappeared? Was winter or ice fishing a regular hobby of theirs or is this something they just coincidently had planned or decided to do at the spur of the moment that day?

Thank you for confirming MJ's comments on the scrubbed Find PB page was the only source C was at the apartment that day having found the door unlocked/open and music blaring. There was something hinky about that story from the get go, including MJ's comment (iirc) he arrived at the apt at 4:50 or 5:10 but somehow C was there at the time.... MJ's story regarding the time he saw PB 'sleeping' on the couch and the rest of the days events never added up imo.

And yes, Train is boarding and leaving the station soon. tick tock tick tock...

 

[Cubby]

Also, now that I am recalling the confusion on the initial? Pea's interview either DB and/or KB mentioned brother and then corrected themself saying cousin. That leads me to believe two things. 1)Both LB and C were at the apartment sometime that day and 2)They were asked by LE not to mention certain things and being new to being interviewed they slipped...

JMO

 

[georgiajean]

Just to mention it was the baltimore sun blog which had the inaccurate info stating 200 LE officials would be out surfing. Since this MSM outlet left me caught with my pants down twice - they now stand out to me as one to not only triple check but I don't want to see any other MSM articles blamed for the B'mor Suns factual error. :crazy:

Oops, yep, you are right. I saw the 200 LE mentioned elsewhere, and I started to think that Everyone was quoting it wrong. yikes.
Now I am wondering how many inaccuracies in the time line were created by B'more Sun's faulty fact checking? I know I've read a lot of articles by them....