MD - Phylicia Barnes, 16, Baltimore, 28 Dec 2010 #5

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  • #341
LE even went as far as to pull the younger POI out of school and speak with him, and met with MJ more than once. Yet we see no pics or video nor the media even attempting to interview these POI's WHY????? The media usually jumps to the chance to point fingers and start trying to put the camera in anybody remotely close to the case, and yet they have failed to even show us MJ and his whereabouts when he is suppose to be the last person to see PB??? Why haven't we heard anything from MJ or seen the media at least trying to speak with him???? I just don't get it?????? WHY????


Hello All,
Sorry my responses have not been as frequent. I was in the hospital for 3 days due to dizzy spells and potassium loss. I have been getting very little sleep since I learned about Phylicia's case in January. I am getting ready to get at least 30 minutes of sleep before I go to work. Here is an update on MJ's exact job location. It is called GAF Materials Corp. 1500 Ponca St. Baltimore, MD 21224, near Boston St and O'Donnell St. (410) 633-7201. It is located near the Dundalk area (20 minutes or so from Russell St.). This company specializes in roofing materials and shingles.
 
  • #342
No need to be sorry. Hope you get well soon. Get that problem of yours taken care of and try to stay healthy. I'm certain many people need you around. Yes, we need you here too, but health first. Start (making) yourself get a little more rest. I understand about losing sleep. I was up for almost 2 days the other day.

This is great news that you've sent to us in regards to MJ's employment. I will do some research on it, the location and surrounding area. Thanks Sun48shine. Get well soon.

Hello All,
Sorry my responses have not been as frequent. I was in the hospital for 3 days due to dizzy spells and potassium loss. I have been getting very little sleep since I learned about Phylicia's case in January. I am getting ready to get at least 30 minutes of sleep before I go to work. Here is an update on MJ's exact job location. It is called GAF Materials Corp. 1500 Ponca St. Baltimore, MD 21224, near Boston St and O'Donnell St. (410) 633-7201. It is located near the Dundalk area (20 minutes or so from Russell St.). This company specializes in roofing materials and shingles.
 
  • #343
Sun48shine by all means, don't wear yourself too thin!
Many are indebted for you for being on the front line of the search, but you have to maintain your health, for all involved, and especially yourself.

Thanks for the information about mj's workplace. I wonder if his job entails driving a company vehicle. ?

We need answers, we need PB.

LE, please release the names and photos of the POI's.

A picture is worth a thousand words, and a poi by any other name is still-a POI.
 
  • #344
Hello All,
Sorry my responses have not been as frequent. I was in the hospital for 3 days due to dizzy spells and potassium loss. I have been getting very little sleep since I learned about Phylicia's case in January. I am getting ready to get at least 30 minutes of sleep before I go to work. Here is an update on MJ's exact job location. It is called GAF Materials Corp. 1500 Ponca St. Baltimore, MD 21224, near Boston St and O'Donnell St. (410) 633-7201. It is located near the Dundalk area (20 minutes or so from Russell St.). This company specializes in roofing materials and shingles.

If ever there was a place to disappear a body, this area is it. Train tracks going right by. Hundreds of dumpsters and shipping containers. Huge manufacturing/distributing area.

Big question- what would someone do there at night? Night watchman? Or is it one of those manufacturing places that runs the plant 24 hours a day, so needs three shift?
 
  • #345
If I was innocent of any wrong-doing, and I was accused of wrong-doing, and that wrong-doing included the disappearance of a human being, I do not believe I would post things on facebook, with crude jokes about what could have happened to the body (cat ate it, it's in the basement, etc). And when POI's (named and un-named) comment on your post in similar manner, boy howdy does it send out the red flags.

No, I might communicate with the person who accused me, and try and clear up any misunderstanding. I might communicate with LE to clear up any misunderstanding. Because I would figure that if I was being focused on, there must be a reason. And If I was innocent of any connection to the crime, I'd want to clear my name, as soon as possible. Especially if I ran a business serving other young ladies' beauty needs.

I know that poor manners and crudeness does not a murderer or accomplice make, but it sure turns the spotlight on you, and makes people look even closer at what's going on.
Me thinks the lady doth protest too much.
 
  • #346
There's a very very very interesting post by Ro. Sk. on the FB prayer page. The timing is wondrous...

The person is saying no more feeling bad and not sleeping, someone "knows what happened" and "who panicked."

It's a plea for the person to confess and repent and saying that people are noticing how bad the person looks.

The party goes on to advise that people are looking everywhere for PB, and "they will find her eventually."

The plea is made to "tell the whole story."

What a powerful plea! I hope that someone listens-time is running OUT!
 
  • #347
If ever there was a place to disappear a body, this area is it. Train tracks going right by. Hundreds of dumpsters and shipping containers. Huge manufacturing/distributing area.

Big question- what would someone do there at night? Night watchman? Or is it one of those manufacturing places that runs the plant 24 hours a day, so needs three shift?


I was checking out their website for jobs, just in case the Federal government does not extend our Continuing Resolution. LOL!!!! Here are jobs at GAF:

https://gafelk.ats.hrsmart.com/cgi-bin/a/alljobs.cgi?qty=25&order=jobcity&order=jobs.timedate%20DESC

I could apply for one of those shift work jobs in Baltimore on Ponca Street, just kidding.
 
  • #348
I was checking out their website for jobs, just in case the Federal government does not extend our Continuing Resolution. LOL!!!! Here are jobs at GAF:

https://gafelk.ats.hrsmart.com/cgi-bin/a/alljobs.cgi?qty=25&order=jobcity&order=jobs.timedate%20DESC

I could apply for one of those shift work jobs in Baltimore on Ponca Street, just kidding.

Interesting.
So they run 3 shifts, and they run 6 days a week, from what I could tell.
One of the shifts was "2nd shift" running from 2pm to 10pm, 6 days a week.
Would 3rd shift then run from 10 pm to 6 am, with 1st shift from 6 am to 2 pm?
 
  • #349
If I was innocent of any wrong-doing, and I was accused of wrong-doing, and that wrong-doing included the disappearance of a human being, I do not believe I would post things on facebook, with crude jokes about what could have happened to the body (cat ate it, it's in the basement, etc). And when POI's (named and un-named) comment on your post in similar manner, boy howdy does it send out the red flags.

No, I might communicate with the person who accused me, and try and clear up any misunderstanding. I might communicate with LE to clear up any misunderstanding. Because I would figure that if I was being focused on, there must be a reason. And If I was innocent of any connection to the crime, I'd want to clear my name, as soon as possible. Especially if I ran a business serving other young ladies' beauty needs.

I know that poor manners and crudeness does not a murderer or accomplice make, but it sure turns the spotlight on you, and makes people look even closer at what's going on.
Me thinks the lady doth protest too much.

I do not know of one TRUE Godly person that would post the remarks that person did. Only an un-Godly person would sit there and think of those mean things to type about a little girl that is missing. I found that particular thread to be quite childish in relation to the people that commented, which looked to be ALL females and perhaps 1 male who was gossiping like a lady.
 
  • #350
WoW!!! I missed that. Must have been today? Indeed that is a powerful speech and I hope the person who gave the speech, give a few more. On the prayer page, most times people get fussed at if their post are a little more than a prayer. I do understand though that the creators of the group want to maintain respect and a Godly feel to the group

There's a very very very interesting post by Ro. Sk. on the FB prayer page. The timing is wondrous...

The person is saying no more feeling bad and not sleeping, someone "knows what happened" and "who panicked."

It's a plea for the person to confess and repent and saying that people are noticing how bad the person looks.

The party goes on to advise that people are looking everywhere for PB, and "they will find her eventually."

The plea is made to "tell the whole story."

What a powerful plea! I hope that someone listens-time is running OUT!
 
  • #351
WoW!!! I missed that. Must have been today? Indeed that is a powerful speech and I hope the person who gave the speech, give a few more. On the prayer page, most times people get fussed at if their post are a little more than a prayer. I do understand though that the creators of the group want to maintain respect and a Godly feel to the group

I keep reminding myself that the Pray for PB page was created by her teachers and classmates in NC. That explains the tone, and the absence of speculation on the page.

I believe that, due to the intensity of this case and situation on the ground in B'more, many of the active people searching for PB have gone quiet, from necessity and by request. So I am hopeful. I was concerned that people who had been posting who are no longer posting on the prayer page had dropped the search. But I am reassured that no, they have not. The case is still moving forward, and the people responsible for PB's disappearance are backing further into the net, so to speak.
 
  • #352
I keep reminding myself that the Pray for PB page was created by her teachers and classmates in NC. That explains the tone, and the absence of speculation on the page.

I believe that, due to the intensity of this case and situation on the ground in B'more, many of the active people searching for PB have gone quiet, from necessity and by request. So I am hopeful. I was concerned that people who had been posting who are no longer posting on the prayer page had dropped the search. But I am reassured that no, they have not. The case is still moving forward, and the people responsible for PB's disappearance are backing further into the net, so to speak.

Hello All, yes things have gone awful quiet from the usual people who would post regularly on the prayer page and at first it disturbed me too. But I feel that LE has this case in the bag and PB being found would provide the evidence that is needed to go ahead with arrests and charges which will stick. I hope the person(s) responsible are enjoying their freedom right now because time is running out and PB will be found very soon. That moment can't come soon enough when everything that was done in the dark will be revealed to all! I noticed something disturbing on the prayer page this morning that has me wondering if fake profiles are being created to give subliminal messages/or signals to the ones who are involved with PB's disappearance. A person with a very questionable profile posted a News article link about PB. I clicked on it thinking it was recent but it was old article from Jan. 2011 regarding PB being searched for in a park. Now out of all articles regarding PB on the net why would this person post THIS article? On the Facebook post the questionable profile also posted a comment saying they haven't forgot about PB. Is this some type of sick joke? I strongly hope that LE is monitoring the prayer page and are able to pull IP addresses. Something about that posting did NOT sit well with me. I also hope LE are monitoring the movements and actions of each and everyone of their POIs. They are TOO comfortable on social networks and it sickens me that they have no concern or care for PB's well being in the least. Bit. This has gone on for far too long! It's time for PB to be found, JS to have peace, and justice to be served! Here is the Link: http://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...ft_time_ft=1302092142&_ft_mf_objid=1645912623
 
  • #353
Hello All, yes things have gone awful quiet from the usual people who would post regularly on the prayer page and at first it disturbed me too. But I feel that LE has this case in the bag and PB being found would provide the evidence that is needed to go ahead with arrests and charges which will stick. I hope the person(s) responsible are enjoying their freedom right now because time is running out and PB will be found very soon. That moment can't come soon enough when everything that was done in the dark will be revealed to all! I noticed something disturbing on the prayer page this morning that has me wondering if fake profiles are being created to give subliminal messages/or signals to the ones who are involved with PB's disappearance. A person with a very questionable profile posted a News article link about PB. I clicked on it thinking it was recent but it was old article from Jan. 2011 regarding PB being searched for in a park. Now out of all articles regarding PB on the net why would this person post THIS article? On the Facebook post the questionable profile also posted a comment saying they haven't forgot about PB. Is this some type of sick joke? I strongly hope that LE is monitoring the prayer page and are able to pull IP addresses. Something about that posting did NOT sit well with me. I also hope LE are monitoring the movements and actions of each and everyone of their POIs. They are TOO comfortable on social networks and it sickens me that they have no concern or care for PB's well being in the least. Bit. This has gone on for far too long! It's time for PB to be found, JS to have peace, and justice to be served! Here is the Link: http://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...ft_time_ft=1302092142&_ft_mf_objid=1645912623


Thanks for the link, FrostByte!

Amen. I feel as though we are very near to finding out the truth and finding PB.

Suggestion to the "wise":

When the truth is outed, please don't spin the reason why you didn't come forward beforehand. There will be zero sympathy for you, any of you.

Even if you fancy that you're only on the peripheral with no hand in the deed, you're still complicit and hopefully will be charged to the fullest extent of the law.

All of you-

Also, the word "accident" need not be spoken of. This was no "accident." Criminal Profilier Pat Brown has gone on record stating that the person(s) responsible need to be put away so that this will not happen to any one else.

So, even if you think that it was an accident, it is not being considered so by LE, it's safe to say.

The mind of the deceived is a delusional one, indeed!
 
  • #354
Well said Falconi. If this were an accident there would have been no need to hide the truth of what occured and disappear Phylicia.
 
  • #355
I think that an accident is possible within a group of heavy alcohol/drug users who are more concerned with covering their own behinds. The people surrounding PB during those days after Christmas do not seem to be, as a rule, honorable, ethical, or mature. I can see an accident (overdose seems most likely scenario) being covered up in an initial flurry of action, with the only thought being saving their own hides, because PB is already gone. And that cover-up escalated into continuing layers of cover-up, intimidation, pressure, and threat, in ever larger circles as the shock wave of what happened billowed out. Add to that the fact that many of the POI's have observed family members' run-ins with the law, and that they have been raised to distrust LE, especially because they are doing things that ARE against the law. We are not talking about regular law-abiding citizens who raise their kids and work hard and buy into society's structures, as it certainly seems like PB's NC family does.

If it was an accidental overdose, (and I say accidental because I would assume no one wanted her to overdose, but they were all high/drunk as well, so they weren't really the best chaperones for a young girl's experimentation), and if they had contacted the authorities and her parents as soon as it happened, it would have been a horrible tragedy that would have reverberated through her family and friends and teachers. And those involved would have faces charges (what would charges be for adults who provided the drugs/alcohol that led to a minor's death?) But the healing would have begun for all who love PB. Instead, the agony persists and extends, and those who were involved in her disappearance are going to face murder and accessory to murder charges, as well as obstructing justice (and what else?).
 
  • #356
I think that an accident is possible within a group of heavy alcohol/drug users who are more concerned with covering their own behinds. The people surrounding PB during those days after Christmas do not seem to be, as a rule, honorable, ethical, or mature. I can see an accident (overdose seems most likely scenario) being covered up in an initial flurry of action, with the only thought being saving their own hides, because PB is already gone. And that cover-up escalated into continuing layers of cover-up, intimidation, pressure, and threat, in ever larger circles as the shock wave of what happened billowed out. Add to that the fact that many of the POI's have observed family members' run-ins with the law, and that they have been raised to distrust LE, especially because they are doing things that ARE against the law. We are not talking about regular law-abiding citizens who raise their kids and work hard and buy into society's structures, as it certainly seems like PB's NC family does.

If it was an accidental overdose, (and I say accidental because I would assume no one wanted her to overdose, but they were all high/drunk as well, so they weren't really the best chaperones for a young girl's experimentation), and if they had contacted the authorities and her parents as soon as it happened, it would have been a horrible tragedy that would have reverberated through her family and friends and teachers. And those involved would have faces charges (what would charges be for adults who provided the drugs/alcohol that led to a minor's death?) But the healing would have begun for all who love PB. Instead, the agony persists and extends, and those who were involved in her disappearance are going to face murder and accessory to murder charges, as well as obstructing justice (and what else?).

I agree with much of the above. I'm really having a hard time with a possible OD theory - unless it happened on Tuesday the 28th as a result of something someone slipped to Phylicia. I can't see Phylicia willingly taking something prior to expecting KB. She spoke with someone in the AM. LE has specifically asked the public to focus on the events that Tuesday. I believe if they were unable to confirm PB was alive Tuesday morning they would be asking the public for information on anything unusual for a time range, not a specific day.

It does make me wonder if someone did slip something to PB either with bad intentions or due to adolescent behavior thinking it would be funny to play a trick on her and then something happened which caused panic and then a cover up.
 
  • #357
I think that an accident is possible within a group of heavy alcohol/drug users who are more concerned with covering their own behinds. The people surrounding PB during those days after Christmas do not seem to be, as a rule, honorable, ethical, or mature. I can see an accident (overdose seems most likely scenario) being covered up in an initial flurry of action, with the only thought being saving their own hides, because PB is already gone. And that cover-up escalated into continuing layers of cover-up, intimidation, pressure, and threat, in ever larger circles as the shock wave of what happened billowed out. Add to that the fact that many of the POI's have observed family members' run-ins with the law, and that they have been raised to distrust LE, especially because they are doing things that ARE against the law. We are not talking about regular law-abiding citizens who raise their kids and work hard and buy into society's structures, as it certainly seems like PB's NC family does.

If it was an accidental overdose, (and I say accidental because I would assume no one wanted her to overdose, but they were all high/drunk as well, so they weren't really the best chaperones for a young girl's experimentation), and if they had contacted the authorities and her parents as soon as it happened, it would have been a horrible tragedy that would have reverberated through her family and friends and teachers. And those involved would have faces charges (what would charges be for adults who provided the drugs/alcohol that led to a minor's death?) But the healing would have begun for all who love PB. Instead, the agony persists and extends, and those who were involved in her disappearance are going to face murder and accessory to murder charges, as well as obstructing justice (and what else?).


BBM
I agree and believe that this is exactly what we're dealing with. I used "accident" because I'm steeling myself for the undoubted onslaught of the word "accident" when PB is found. This whole ordeal is nonetheless horrific,
regardless of the guilty's intention.

In terms of intentional, I would say that the culture and environment surrounding PB in Bmore was intentional.

It was intended that PB be freed from all of her inhibitions and innocence. It was intended that she "have a good time,"and "open up." It was intended that she play the role of her sister's "twin."


It's rather interesting that in JS's surely all too brief discussion with db about PB's going missing, that the subject of drug and alcohol use comes up.

That's no coincidence. imo


Consider the timeline.

I think that everything is just tooo coincidental on the day of the 28th, with no one outside of "the circle" having contact with PB.

I have a feeling that there are a great many who will need to ready their wrists for the cuffs.

When PB is found, and if it's determined that she indeed succumbed to an overdose, prepare for the DELUGE of media attention.

I also would like to know what charges those involved will face because of this sham of a cover-up.

It really makes you wonder how many people are complicit?

~Waiting on PB~
 
  • #358
I agree with much of the above. I'm really having a hard time with a possible OD theory - unless it happened on Tuesday the 28th as a result of something someone slipped to Phylicia. I can't see Phylicia willingly taking something prior to expecting KB. She spoke with someone in the AM. LE has specifically asked the public to focus on the events that Tuesday. I believe if they were unable to confirm PB was alive Tuesday morning they would be asking the public for information on anything unusual for a time range, not a specific day.

It does make me wonder if someone did slip something to PB either with bad intentions or due to adolescent behavior thinking it would be funny to play a trick on her and then something happened which caused panic and then a cover up.


BBM

The person that PB spoke with, are they "in the circle?"

My personal belief is that mj and his crew/fam were the "clean-up committee." I really hate to word it that way, but everything seems too convenient for "the circle."

Praying that the TRUTH, whatever it may be and PB are revealed soon. She's really tugging at alot of people's hearts, and how could anyone think that they could get away with her disappearance?!
 
  • #359
BBM

The person that PB spoke with, are they "in the circle?"

My personal belief is that mj and his crew/fam were the "clean-up committee." I really hate to word it that way, but everything seems too convenient for "the circle."

Praying that the TRUTH, whatever it may be and PB are revealed soon. She's really tugging at alot of people's hearts, and how could anyone think that they could get away with her disappearance?!

I've been thinking about the circle, too. It seems that LE does not doubt that KB and DB were speaking the truth. Or if they do doubt, they have not given any indication of such. KB and DB are the ones who said they spoke to PB over the phone. They probably have phone records to prove that. Maybe someone else who has followed more cases can shed more light on this--DB and KB probably can't PROVE they actually spoke with PB, and not someone else. But what would give LE reason to believe them (or not)???

We also have the facebook photo sleuthing, which DB revealed to Nancy Grace. Was that a red herring to put more suspicion on MJ?

If PB was not alive on the 28th, or was in a state of inebriation/passed out, then DB and possibly KB must be pulled into the circle. I have a hard time believing they would be complicit in this cover up, and a harder time believing they would still be involved in it, three months later. It is possible. I am guessing there are cases of people who have held out in their web of lies for longer. But there are an awful lot of people who would need to be involved in the cover up, if PB was injured/died before 8:45 am on Dec. 28th. In my opinion.
 
  • #360
I agree with much of the above. I'm really having a hard time with a possible OD theory - unless it happened on Tuesday the 28th as a result of something someone slipped to Phylicia. I can't see Phylicia willingly taking something prior to expecting KB. She spoke with someone in the AM. LE has specifically asked the public to focus on the events that Tuesday. I believe if they were unable to confirm PB was alive Tuesday morning they would be asking the public for information on anything unusual for a time range, not a specific day.

It does make me wonder if someone did slip something to PB either with bad intentions or due to adolescent behavior thinking it would be funny to play a trick on her and then something happened which caused panic and then a cover up.

I also have a hard time with an overdose occurring before DB left the morning of the 28th. Because I don't see her being complicit in a cover-up to this extent. It is possible, and we don't know her at all, but it doesn't sit right with me. But the idea of someone slipping her something... I can see that happening, among this crowd. Teaching the country girl a thing about street thuggin life, and all that. That is possible. And their reaction would look pretty similar to the scenario that has played out.
 
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