MD - Phylicia Barnes, 16, Baltimore, 28 Dec 2010 #5

[cluciano63]

I also find it incomprehensible that anyone would not remember when they last spoke to their sister, who is MISSING.

I also thought/think it was weird when it was reported that Clint Dunn's girlfriend Naomi can't recall if she saw Hailey the day she went missing?

WTF? They are being asked these questions right after the event, not months or years later. Is the common denominator in these faulty memories drugs? Or guilt? Or just not very smart? Hard to know.

My sister died several years ago and I have never forgotten for a moment the last time I saw her, talked to her, etc...just too strange for words when someone can't.

Without evidence and without help from the suspects/non-suspects, LE has no place to go. This is just like Kyron, Hailey, and Haleigh; plenty of suspicions, not enough evidence, and no sign of the victim, dead or alive. What is LE to do??

 

[BACH50]

Respectfully, this is Pat Browns opinion.... If everyone not out of the country were suspect we'd have to toss PB's mother into that ring, and she is clearly not a suspect. Clearly her opinion differs from Marc Klaas's who highly recommends poly's as an avenue to rule out/clear potential POI's.

I find it interesting LE has not ruled out stranger abduction when PB was not seen on any survellience in the immediate area and dogs did not track her past the front door of the apartment. I suppose that is because PB went missing from a multi family property versus a single family property and the possibility exists another resident of this apartment complex other than MJ or his circle could have abducted PB.

Now I am wondering did her scent lead them to other apts. in the building?
Did it lead them to the laundry room?

So someone from the other apt knocked on the door and PB opened and they took her to get something to eat and never brought her back? DB never mentioned that PB even socialized with other people in the apt?

Can't really see any other motives that lead me away from #1 POI MJ and his crew.

 

[BACH50]

I also find it incomprehensible that anyone would not remember when they last spoke to their sister, who is MISSING.

I also thought/think it was weird when it was reported that Clint Dunn's girlfriend Naomi can't recall if she saw Hailey the day she went missing?

WTF? They are being asked these questions right after the event, not months or years later. Is the common denominator in these faulty memories drugs? Or guilt? Or just not very smart? Hard to know.

My sister died several years ago and I have never forgotten for a moment the last time I saw her, talked to her, etc...just too strange for words when someone can't.

Without evidence and without help from the suspects/non-suspects, LE has no place to go. This is just like Kyron, Hailey, and Haleigh; plenty of suspicions, not enough evidence, and no sign of the victim, dead or alive. What is LE to do??

Same here, my sister passed away over 20 years ago and I can still remember our last conversation and most likely down to the date.

Shame on DB and KB, are they really that puzzled or just full of fear and frustration?

 

[Cubby]

(((cluciano))) on the loss of your sister. Your statements are along the lines of my thoughts as well. Ones mind would go into overdrive at the attempt to recall exactly what occured. Get the details right so they could provide both LE and the media with credible factual information. Instead we have a cluster hmpf here with this case with too many players, too many stories from the persons who last saw PB.

eta: hugs to you too BACH50

 

[BACH50]

I also find it incomprehensible that anyone would not remember when they last spoke to their sister, who is MISSING.

I also thought/think it was weird when it was reported that Clint Dunn's girlfriend Naomi can't recall if she saw Hailey the day she went missing?

WTF? They are being asked these questions right after the event, not months or years later. Is the common denominator in these faulty memories drugs? Or guilt? Or just not very smart? Hard to know.

My sister died several years ago and I have never forgotten for a moment the last time I saw her, talked to her, etc...just too strange for words when someone can't.

Without evidence and without help from the suspects/non-suspects, LE has no place to go. This is just like Kyron, Hailey, and Haleigh; plenty of suspicions, not enough evidence, and no sign of the victim, dead or alive. What is LE to do??[/QUOTE]


Keep interviewing the last person to see her MJ, which in fact they are doing!!!

 

[cluciano63]

I also find it incomprehensible that anyone would not remember when they last spoke to their sister, who is MISSING.

I also thought/think it was weird when it was reported that Clint Dunn's girlfriend Naomi can't recall if she saw Hailey the day she went missing?

WTF? They are being asked these questions right after the event, not months or years later. Is the common denominator in these faulty memories drugs? Or guilt? Or just not very smart? Hard to know.

My sister died several years ago and I have never forgotten for a moment the last time I saw her, talked to her, etc...just too strange for words when someone can't.

Without evidence and without help from the suspects/non-suspects, LE has no place to go. This is just like Kyron, Hailey, and Haleigh; plenty of suspicions, not enough evidence, and no sign of the victim, dead or alive. What is LE to do??

Keep interviewing the last person to see her MJ, which in fact they are doing!!!

Yes, as long as his lawyer allows him to talk, they need to do so, every chance they get.

 

[georgiajean]

Respectfully, this is Pat Browns opinion.... If everyone not out of the country were suspect we'd have to toss PB's mother into that ring, and she is clearly not a suspect. Clearly her opinion differs from Marc Klaas's who highly recommends poly's as an avenue to rule out/clear potential POI's.

I find it interesting LE has not ruled out stranger abduction when PB was not seen on any survellience in the immediate area and dogs did not track her past the front door of the apartment. I suppose that is because PB went missing from a multi family property versus a single family property and the possibility exists another resident/guest of a resident of this apartment complex other than MJ or his circle could have abducted PB. (But there was no sign of a struggle and a struggle would have certainly occured if she was grabbed by a stranger).

I was throwing it out there to see what everyone thought. I felt it was too "pat" of an answer. I wonder if a "beyond a reasonable doubt" criteria is more reasonable?

 

[Cubby]

MJ MJ MJ MJ MJ - HE is the person who has answers. And DB and KB need to seperate what they were fed by MJ about the events which occured that day. Clarify what they know and only what they know. Whatever MJ fed them was a load of BS. Discount it entirely and/or specify this is what we were told by MJ.

I'm so disgusted with the B'more circle (all of 'em) and the BS which has gone out about this case.
All that BS has hampered the investigation.


JMO

 

[Cubby]

Makes me wish we could turn back the clock and yell "Don't let her go"! to JS. I know we can't but I wish we could.

 

[cluciano63]

I think even Pat Brown would agree that P's mom is not a suspect; she would probably fall under "out of the country" which she may have not meant literally, but proven to be away from the crime scene area.

 

[fleur.de.lis]

There's a great comment from criminal profiler Pat Brown on her FAcebook.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Criminal-Profiler-Pat-Brown/387068190642

She says there are only a few limited ways someone can be CLEARED:
Out of the country
Giving a sermon in a pulpit
On TV or seen on videotape somewhere far away
Someone else has been proved to have done it.

Pat Brown says that anything not absolute means the person is a possible suspect, still.

So, unless LE knows who did it, or DB was on video somewhere, she is still a suspect?

That's a good point. Uggg... I feel like there's so much about this case we don't know!! My only thought is that if DB does in fact work as a pharmacy tech they probably do have security footage of her at work during the period that PB went missing.

 

[georgiajean]

One thing I have noticed, in sleuthing about, is that the B and J families were pretty intertwined. They went to the same schools. There are friends that cross both families. DB and MJ are not the only couple to cross the lines. These are very large extended families, on both sides, with long standing roots in B'more.

The B family has way, way less history of criminal and drug involvement than the J family.

Not sure what the relevance of that is, I just wanted to put it out there.

 

[Cubby]

That's a good point. Uggg... I feel like there's so much about this case we don't know!! My only thought is that if DB does in fact work as a pharmacy tech they probably do have security footage of her at work during the period that PB went missing.

I fully agree. The question I have is how has LE verified PB was in fact alive when DB left for work in the morning? Especially if what KB stated - that neither she or DB verbally spoke with PB on the 28th is true. DB claims to have spoken with PB prior to leaving for work.

IIRC B'mor PD put out in a presser they were asking the public for information around the 1:30 time. How is it known MJ didn't remove PB much earlier- say the time he claims to have come by to pick up LB- and come back to the apartment to clean up?

All I know is something is seriously lacking here and it is up to BPD to clear up much of the misinformation that has been put out about this case.

JMO

 

[Falconi]

I fully agree. The question I have is how has LE verified PB was in fact alive when DB left for work in the morning? Especially if what KB stated - that neither she or DB verbally spoke with PB on the 28th is true. DB claims to have spoken with PB prior to leaving for work.

IIRC B'mor PD put out in a presser they were asking the public for information around the 1:30 time. How is it known MJ didn't remove PB much earlier- say the time he claims to have come by to pick up LB- and come back to the apartment to clean up?

All I know is something is seriously lacking here and it is up to BPD to clear up much of the misinformation that has been put out about this case.
JMO

BBM

I totally agree. I would venture to say that the misinformation has been intentional by "the circle."

IMO, db is has some SERIOUS explaining to do:

WHY did she not have her business with mj settled before her teenage sister came to visit on Dec 17? Why wasn't he already moved out, or better yet-why didn't db move?! She fairly quickly decided to move out since PB's disappearance...

Why didn't db take off of work while PB was visiting? db paid for the flight to Bmore for PB, so if she didn't have the paid time off to take, she really have been better off to reschedule. Everyone would-especially PB.

WHY didn't db take PB to work with her that day?Even family member Bo. Br. on the FB prayer page said that PB was "too tired" to get up and go with db on the morning of the 28th. Why?

If the relationship between db and mj was really over, then why did he feel comfortable enough to be over there on the 27th partying? In fact, it wasn't just he alone, that would've been awkward enough, it was he AND other family members. Now, (thinking as a guy) if you're on the outs with your lady, you're really not gonna risk a fallout by bringing Tom, Dick, and Harry with you for a visit. If it were just mj over there, it would lend more credence to the "breaking-up" scenario. He would have been over there, trying to get back in good terms with db. Well, guess what?! He was already on good terms with db! IMO- You mean to tell me that mj and db are in the middle of a break up, she comes home from a hard working day with her little sister, finds a "party" going on and there's no beef? It was business as usual over at that apt that day, and the only reason things have changed is because of the disappearance of PB.

WHY did db need PB to "open up" to her? PB opened up by contacting these folks on FB. They sure didn't look for her. PB was bright-eyed and eager to belong to that "family." Is "open up" a euphemism for wanting PB to let go of her sexual inhibitions, her innocence? Why did db furnish her little sister with drugs and alcohol and thus set the stage for atrocity?

Why didn't db call JS and ask if she'd spoken to PB? Did db call SS? The calling around to ask if PB had been heard from should have happened WAAAAY before 5 or 6, when db came home from work.

WHY oh WHY didn't either db or kb come to pick up PB? They haven't spoken with her all day, this teen-left in their/db's charge, yet there's not the thought to check on her? Surely, db's place of employment would've ok'd her going to check on her little sister, whom she'd been bringing to work. Someone at db's job may have even asked where was PB that day? What in the world happened to KB? Was there ever any intention of going over there? Me thinks not.

WHY did/does db have to hide behind rb? rb forbade JS from speaking with db about the events leading up to PB's disappearance. Why is that? db may tell the world that LE doesn't want her to speak publicly about the case, but the very LEAST that db could do is to offer explanation to PB's own mother!

WHY did db hide the fact that a 21 year old male cousin of mj was living at the apt also?

WHY doesn't db shout from the mountaintops that mj and his crew are responsible for PB's disappearance? This is her SISTER!! Let the chips fall where they may!

WHY is db Twitter friends with mj's lil brother/lbc to this very day?!!!


WHY do ANY of these folks think that they are going to get away with the disappearance of Phylicia Simone Barnes?!

 

[georgiajean]

I fully agree. The question I have is how has LE verified PB was in fact alive when DB left for work in the morning? Especially if what KB stated - that neither she or DB verbally spoke with PB on the 28th is true. DB claims to have spoken with PB prior to leaving for work.

IIRC B'mor PD put out in a presser they were asking the public for information around the 1:30 time. How is it known MJ didn't remove PB much earlier- say the time he claims to have come by to pick up LB- and come back to the apartment to clean up?

All I know is something is seriously lacking here and it is up to BPD to clear up much of the misinformation that has been put out about this case.

JMO

I went back and looked at the Peas FB thread. The question KB answered was if anyone spoke to PB by voice, after DB left that morning. So we do not know if DB verbally communicated with PB before she left for work, or if she just got up out of the bed they were sharing, and left a warm body?? Did they talk and PB convinced her she could stay at the apartment alone? This is a question DB needs to be very, very clear on. Did DB know without a doubt that PB was OKAY when DB left the apartment? Or was it an assumption, you see her there, everything is fine????

 

[sophclown]

First, I really wish I had the time to listen to the KB and DB interview on PEAS again. However the whole interview makes me sick because they danced around all of the questions and comments only confusing us more. The interviewers didn't make it any better by not reinforcing the questions nor getting clear answers. They did more work at trying to protect DB and KB than they did at getting clarity.

Second, I DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING THAT KB nor DB says. Their story changes like the wind and is full of inconsistencies. If the interviewer on Peas had more experience she could have gotten better answers. I wish DB, and KB would talk to NG (even though I don't like her) or Jane from HLN. Those two would have a better chance of getting straight answers because they are lawyers and know how to work the interview. I think some of us on here could work the interview with DB and KB better than the ones I've heard.
Yet I still believe that LE has gotten to the bottom of what DB and KB believe to be the truth, and know how to sort through it to find the truth.

The sad part about it is PB's loved one's have really messed this case up in addition to her life as well. HOW SAD!!!!!!

I just wanted to let you know that PeasInTheirPods is an organization that helps find missing children of color. Peas conducts interviews to heighten awareness that a child is missing. That interview with BB, DB and KB was done to also heighten awareness that PB was still missing. The ladies that do that interviews are caring, wonderful people and they help many families and their missing children. Peas interviews are to raise awareness of a missing child. They are not a court of law, detectives, or media trying to glorify or mislead the public. I can also assure you that that during the interviews of BB, DB, or KB that no one was trying to protect anyone! That I know for sure! Peas does a radio show every Sunday evening at 8pm for many different children. They are not to interrogate, just to raise awareness that a child is missing each and every week! I know because I am involved.

As for Phylicia missing, MJ knows what happened to her! His pictures show be shown everywhere to perhaps raise awareness to the public! JMO

 

[cluciano63]

Wasn't P supposed to go get her hair done? I don't understand why neither sister would have spoken to her that day or found it odd if they hadn't spoken to her. Texting is one thing, but at some point, isn't a phone call in order?

 

[FrostByte]

I went back and looked at the Peas FB thread. The question KB answered was if anyone spoke to PB by voice, after DB left that morning. So we do not know if DB verbally communicated with PB before she left for work, or if she just got up out of the bed they were sharing, and left a warm body?? Did they talk and PB convinced her she could stay at the apartment alone? This is a question DB needs to be very, very clear on. Did DB know without a doubt that PB was OKAY when DB left the apartment? Or was it an assumption, you see her there, everything is fine????

Very great question that needs to answered! Was PB physically alive/ok before DB left for work that morning. I'm thinking that DB probably called out PB's name but whatever state PB was in made DB believe that PB was "too tired" to come with her to work so instead of dragging PB up out of the bed DB, not wanting to be late to work, went ahead got dressed and decided that she would be back later to pick her up. Sadly I believe PB was already passed and when MJ arrived that morning He immediately noticed with LBC there as witness. IMHO I believe PB didn't survive the "party" that went on the night before. MJ called DB and PANIC set in. I think this entire circle of cowards should be hauled in and given lie detector tests. Deception is definitely at play and I also feel that PB won't be found in the state of Maryland. I feel so bad for JS she thought she could trust these people but they were NOT looking out for PB's best interests. The truth lies within this tight lipped circle and pressure is not being applied hard enough. Baltimore police have said that PB is their "Natalee Holloway" I shudder at that comparison. Why? Because Natalee has yet to be found(chances are she never will be) and Justice has yet, if ever, to be served. PB went missing on U.S soil and the key players involved has no chance in h+ll of pulling a political card so this case needs to be solved! WHERE IS PHYLICIA SIMONE BARNES? Let's not allow her story to become a urban legend! JS deserves closure! Give JS her baby back!

 

[FrostByte]

I just wanted to let you know that PeasInTheirPods is an organization that helps find missing children of color. Peas conducts interviews to heighten awareness that a child is missing. That interview with BB, DB and KB was done to also heighten awareness that PB was still missing. The ladies that do that interviews are caring, wonderful people and they help many families and their missing children. Peas interviews are to raise awareness of a missing child. They are not a court of law, detectives, or media trying to glorify or mislead the public. I can also assure you that that during the interviews of BB, DB, or KB that no one was trying to protect anyone! That I know for sure! Peas does a radio show every Sunday evening at 8pm for many different children. They are not to interrogate, just to raise awareness that a child is missing each and every week! I know because I am involved.

As for Phylicia missing, MJ knows what happened to her! His pictures show be shown everywhere to perhaps raise awareness to the public! JMO

I listened to the interview and I was beyond shocked, disgusted, and appalled! PEAS IN THEIR POD does a great service bringing awareness to missing children but in this case they shouldn't interviewed DB and KB they did them a great Disservice because now their time line is, excuse my language, shot to $h+t. The hosts warned callers that they would cut off their connection immediately if THEY felt it was going into a negative direction. I would just LOVE to see KB DB and the rest of the Barnes family on Nancy Grace getting the hard questions handed to them. They would not last 10 minutes. In some parts of the PEAs interview DB was snickering what's so funny? And she slipped a couple times saying she couldn't say her ex boyfriend's name but near the end she did say his name. I pray the truth comes out soon! Its time to play hardball because this circle is not giving up the goods! LIE DETECTOR TESTS for each and every one of them! The shocker would be who passes and who fails. JUSTICE FOR PHYLICIA BARNES!

 

[georgiajean]

NBC nightly news
http://www.thegrio.com/news/family-fears-fate-of-nc-teen-missing-for-4-months.php

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