MD MD - Upper Marlboro, BlkMale 13-17, UP1855, Skeletal, Honda Motor Scooter found nearby, Nov'07

[BrownBear]

Unidentified Person / NamUs #UP1855

Demographics
Sex Male
Race / Ethnicity Black / African American
Possible First Name--
Possible Middle Name--
Possible Last Name--
Nickname/Alias--
Estimated Age Group Adult - Pre 20
Estimated Age Range (Years) 13-17
Estimated Year of Death 2004-2006
Estimated PMI Months
Height Cannot Estimate
Weight Cannot Estimate

Circumstances
Type Unidentified Deceased
Date Body Found November 14, 2007
NamUs Case Created May 22, 2008
ME/C QA Reviewed May 23, 2008

Location Found
Location Upper Marlboro, Maryland 20772
County Prince George's County
GPS Coordinates (Not Mapped)--
Found On Tribal Land--
Circumstances of Recovery Subject was found lying in a wooded area near a drainage ditch. A Honda scooter was found near the site that appeared to have been there for some time.

Details of Recovery
Inventory of Remains Torso not recovered One or more limbs not recovered One or both hands not recovered
Condition of Remains Not recognizable - Partial skeletal parts only

Physical Description
Hair Color Unknown
Head Hair Description--
Body Hair Description--
Facial Hair Description--
Left Eye Color Unknown
Right Eye Color Unknown
Eye Description--

Distinctive Physical Features
No Known Information

Clothing and Accessories
Accessories
Honda Motor Scooter found nearby
Near the Body

 

[HopeRains]

I believe that Honda Motor Scooter may be a key piece of information for this young man.
Looking at 2007 Honda scooters, there appear to have been at least 8 different models produced.
With today's DMV requirements (not known in the time frame of discovery or couple of years prior) registration + license is required.

If it is attached to him in some way (whatever way - bought, borrowed, stolen, etc) there might be identifying info on the scooter that could help lead to his identity. If he didn't own it, there may have been a report filed. There should be a VIN # somewhere on that scooter.

With regards to the "map" location on his case in Namus - is this GPS value the actual location of his remains, or instead a general GPS value for the area? Does anyone know what is supposed to be entered?

Thanks!

 

[BrownBear]

With regards to the "map" location on his case in Namus - is this GPS value the actual location of his remains, or instead a general GPS value for the area? Does anyone know what is supposed to be entered?

I think it's just a general area indicator. I've seen a lot of maps on NamUs where the marker is put near a local government building like a Court or City hall. I think it has to do with what google maps decides the GPS value of the city or town is.

 

[victoriarobinson642]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
Though I can't say the circumstances quite fit, he matches what little information there is.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Poor young man. Probably a teenager, he's been in NamUs unidentified for a long time
Thank you for taking the time to create a thread for him.

 

[BrownBear]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
Though I can't say the circumstances quite fit, he matches what little information there is.

Lamarst Alexander Porter Jr. – The Charley Project

I think it's possible, the circumstances don't fit exactly and if it is him I have no idea where the scooter would have come from but there's nothing I can see that completely rules him out.

 

[branmuffin]

The Namus site is pretty short of details. What skeleton remains were found? No torso, one or both both limbs missing, one or both hands missing. Does that mean they have a skull? What about dentals if they do have a skull? And the scooter.

If they think the UID has been there since 2004 that doesn't exactly narrow it down, scooter-wise. Just for the year 2004 there were 9 different models. Providing the colour of the scooter could help.

Also were the remains in a drainage ditch beside a road or a trail? Could the deceased have been hit by a vehicle and lay there unknown for a couple of years or was the location in an area where someone wouldn't normally be on a scooter?

 

[branmuffin]

What about this young man?
4948DMNC - Michael James Borges

He was from North Carolina but it was thought he may have been trying to get to his dad who lived in New Jersey. I think the route would have taken him through MD.

 

[annpats]

I'd like to know if LE found a VIN plate on the scooter. It certainly should have one. If it was taken off, that's hinky right there.
If the VIN plate was there, it can be traced to see who the last legal registered owner was.
Although that doesn't mean this scooter wasn't stolen at some point.

 

[annpats]

I was also wondering why you'd be on a scooter in rural Maryland, but looking at Google Maps, it's only about 10 miles to Andrew's Joint Military Base, and only about 25 miles to Washington DC.
So not as remote as I imagined it.

 

[HopeRains]

Having the scooter info would really be helpful. I don't believe the info would have been entered into his case if there wasn't a possibility it was connected. If the authorities believe in the possibility then the make and model would possibly help narrow the window on estimated death. If it was a 2007 model scooter, then that would be in support of the Namus PMI of "months".

Additionally, the condition of the scooter and location to the remains could also be helpful. I too wonder if perhaps he wasn't involved in an accident - perhaps with another vehicle or in an effort to avoid such took the scooter off the road and into the nearby wooded area. I'd really like to know where his remains were located, specifically.

I don't believe for a minute there is no one looking for and wondering where this child has been for the last almost 15 years.

 

[iulia]

From his Doe Network page:

Identifiers
Dentals: Available
Fingerprints: Not Available
DNA: Available

2709UMMD

 

[BrownBear]

Also from his Doe Network page

Circumstances of Discovery
The decedent's skeletal remains were found lying in a wooded area near a drainage ditch in the vicinity of Route 4 and Ritchie Marlboro Road.

 

[HopeRains]

Assuming I know how to use Google Maps correctly, location would be somewhere in vicinity to the blue map pin in image. This location is within 20 miles of Washington DC with a myriad of metro-dc areas in both VA and MD with major interstates and frequently used roads.

 

[branmuffin]

Ritchie Marlboro Rd do intersect at Route 4 but it is a "T" intersection so you have to turn either left or right onto Route 4. It would be nice to know just how close to R-4 the deceased's remains were found. I tried to look for drainage ditches along Ritchie Marlboro Rd. There is quite a bit of new housing along stretches of the road that probably weren't even built when he was found.

I looked up drainage ditches in that location and got this website.

Pages - Public Drainage/Watershed Associations


It's not very helpful considering there are 821 miles of drainage ditches in MD . There is an image of a drainage ditch with a path running beside it which if I was a teenager, maybe one without a license, would think it's be a fun place to ride a scooter. Apparently most drainage ditches were designed for agricultural use but now many of them are built to support storm drainage from city and towns, etc.

 

[Beccalicious]

Bumping

 

[Richard]

An interesting case. Here are a couple photos of Honda Motor Scooters from around that time frame:



LINK:

All HONDA Scooters models and generations by year, specs reference and pictures - autoevolution

List of all HONDA Scooters models and production years

www.autoevolution.com

 

[Aurora90]

bumping