Identified! MD - Woodlawn, WhtFem 279UFMD, 15-25, near cemetery, 'JP' Tattoo, Sep'76 - Margaret Fetterolf

[Steleheart]

Very possible. I always wondered if she was a patient, things went wrong, they raped and murdered her. Possible one liked her, she wasn't returning his affection so he knocked her out and took it too far. I have to drive my daughter but check out what Carbuff said

When I was young the home was called the Italian Home for Little Wanderers. It was a place for orphans. I think my mom called it that from the depression. In those days there was no DCF. I am not sure when it changed but I know it was before I was a teen in the 70's.

So I wondered if she were a young teen client there and he were a worker at Faulkner. She ran out and somehow he saw her dashing down the sidewalk as he was leaving. Maybe they ran off together. After a while - he got tired of her and her bi-polar ways. She was found with thorazine in her stomach - not in her blood as I recall. Perhaps he had it to treat himself and he OD'd her.
Well there was a van spotted near where she was found. Maybe he was a landscaper for the hospital or worked for the contractor there. Sure he could have had the seed bags, bandages, sheets, etc. in the van as part of his own schizophrenic lifestyle.

One of the keys she carried looks like a high security key like the front door of a building and the other looks like an interior door. The interior one looks like an ordinary copy one could get at a hardware store at that time, but the other looks like the ones I had seen in facilities that only a locksmith can duplicate and only with an authorized code.

I am thinking the children's home front door and an interior door.

In 1973 - 1977 I worked at a women's dorm in Boston and the keys were a big part of what I, as the maintenance man, was responsible for. For security doors I had to bring a code card to the locksmith. For dorm room doors I could get it copied at Harry's Hardware. Yes they bothered me instead of going to the admin, haha.


ETA: FWIW I never heard of the "Arbs" We called it the Arboretum. We would stop there and get off the bus for a couple hours of goofin off. Yeah, to look at the trees. (itwasthe70sman)

MOO

 

[Roselvr]

Hi Roselvr & Carbuff,

Part of what Carbuff's previous post made me think about whether or not the killer had a mental illness that led him to look for or obsess over these types of details. I don't even know if that's possible...

Since I posted yesterday, I keep wondering if there were incidents of thefts, break-ins, vagrancy, robberies, etc. in the old or new Faulkner hospital in 1976 or the year before during the construction. Could there be arrest records and could those hold a clue?

If WJD was a patient, I wonder how far back those records could go...

So many things to think about!

You should call Boston LE to ask. I doubt they will tell you but hopefully it makes them check into it.

 

[Deleted member 165632]

In terms of my earlier Faulkner Hospital (construction, moving day 1976, etc.) and Italian Home for Children ideas... well, sadly, now I feel it is more a needle in a haystack.

What do I mean by that?
I've been doing keyword searches in Boston & Baltimore newspapers with terms like: mental institution, runaway(s), thefts, robberies, youth services, etc.
Basically, this was a period where people were moving away from institutionalizing to placing people with mental illnesses in smaller, more intimate, lower-scale facilities, including group homes and half-way houses. Part of it was a recognition that some of these institutions were not giving adequate care or the concept of care was changing.

This was also true for youth services and dealing with youth offenders, runaways and juvenile delinquents.

Major changes were occurring everywhere... sign of the times. There were mental hospitals all over the country being investigated/downsized, youth services the same, etc. New and privately run halfway or group houses trying to alternatively fill the void, etc.

Without better clues to Woodlawn Jane Doe's identity, this line of research feels like a needle in a haystack.

 

[Roselvr]

In terms of my earlier Faulkner Hospital (construction, moving day 1976, etc.) and Italian Home for Children ideas... well, sadly, now I feel it is more a needle in a haystack.

What do I mean by that?
I've been doing keyword searches in Boston & Baltimore newspapers with terms like: mental institution, runaway(s), thefts, robberies, youth services, etc.
Basically, this was a period where people were moving away from institutionalizing to placing people with mental illnesses in smaller, more intimate, lower-scale facilities, including group homes and half-way houses. Part of it was a recognition that some of these institutions were not giving adequate care or the concept of care was changing.

This was also true for youth services and dealing with youth offenders, runaways and juvenile delinquents.

Major changes were occurring everywhere... sign of the times. There were mental hospitals all over the country being investigated/downsized, youth services the same, etc. New and privately run halfway or group houses trying to alternatively fill the void, etc.

Without better clues to Woodlawn Jane Doe's identity, this line of research feels like a needle in a haystack.

I still think you should pass it on to Boston PD. They may be able to make the haystack smaller since they're local

 

[Alleykins]

Is this the same location?
http://www.myfoxboston.com/news/for...ren-in-jp-accused-of-sexual-abuse-1/138024543

 

[carbuff]

It appears to be.

 

[Alleykins]

Is there any way to link the keys that they found to either of those locations?

 

[Tulessa]

I clicked on a few articles, not seeing any new info. I think they're getting the info out to as many news agencies as possible in hopes of finding her friends or family. I think looking thru year books didn't work out for what ever reason. Really wish they would have put a name out there but they never did. We regularly share her on Never Forget Me, hoping to hit just the right person.

Here's a video sis.

https://www.facebook.com/HelpIDMe/?ref=notif&notif_t=notify_me_page&notif_id=1463688959450582

It's to your left of the page comments.

 

[Roselvr]

Here's a video sis.

https://www.facebook.com/HelpIDMe/?ref=notif¬if_t=notify_me_page¬if_id=1463688959450582

It's to your left of the page comments.

Thank you. It's from 5 months ago, so nothing new. I see Mount Vernon Jane Doe has a new recon lol

 

[JusticeWillBeServed]

http://www.wbaltv.com/news/facial-reconstruction-image-released-in-woodlawn-cold-case/41632086

On Monday, which marks 40 years since the woman's body was found, The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children released a new facial reconstruction image of Jane Doe.

The center also said police in Boston and Baltimore County have been working together on investigating leads on the case. One lead suggests the woman may have been named Jasmine, gone by the nickname, "Jassy," and may have lived with her family on Forbes Street in the Jamaica Plain neighborhood of Boston in the early 1970s. She may have relatives by the name of Blanca, Tito and Santana.

 

[Jake479]

http://www.wbaltv.com/news/facial-reconstruction-image-released-in-woodlawn-cold-case/41632086

I totally forgot that today marked 40 years since she was murdered. I hope the right person recognizes her and that this is the last year she is a Jane Doe. RIP Woodlawn Jane Doe

 

[Springrain]

RIP Woodlawn Jane Doe, forty years is forty years too long :rose:

Is the "Jassy" name being mentioned in the article, just a rehash of the disproved possible tip from a while back? I'm super confused there.

 

[carbuff]

I have the impression that one agency believes the lead has been ruled out while the other one thinks it's still viable. I don't know whether that's actually the case, though.

 

[Springrain]

I have the impression that one agency believes the lead has been ruled out while the other one thinks it's still viable. I don't know whether that's actually the case, though.

Oh! That seems to make the most sense.

 

[zelda_s]

The JP tattoo could be a name, (I.e. J for jasmine ) instead of Jamaica plain.

 

[Alleykins]

I shared her story on my FB page and asked my Mass. friends to take a look. They'd have been a little younger than the JD at the time she'd have been there, but maybe something will spark their memories. Here's hoping!

 

[astridxx]

I kind of like Cynthia Hernandez as a match. Now. she's from California, and is thought to be victim of Randy Alldred. But I like the facial similarities. The height is 4 inches off and the weight by 25 lbs, but IMO it's not uncommon for people to underestimate those things.




Cynthia Hernandez

 

[Roselvr]

I have the impression that one agency believes the lead has been ruled out while the other one thinks it's still viable. I don't know whether that's actually the case, though.

Do we have anyone in contact with Jane's LE to get clarification?

 

[Alleykins]

Will someone please do a census look up for Forbes Street for 1970 and 1980? It may be worthwhile.

 

[carbuff]

Do we have anyone in contact with Jane's LE to get clarification?

I'll see if I can find the article. Boston police definitely don't think it's her


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