ME ME - Ayla Reynolds, 20 mnths, Waterville, 17 December 2011 - # 2

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  • #441
Is the pulled muscle from the same accident she broke her arm in or a different one?

I think it is a different one but it is confusing, imo. Trista's brother tells a story that when she came home from a visit with her father one time, that she had a pulled muscle in her leg and could not walk for 3 weeks. I do not know how much of that is true or accurate though.
 
  • #442
Justin Dipietro is 24 years old according to Dr. Drew.
 
  • #443
I think it is a different one but it is confusing, imo. Trista's brother tells a story that when she came home from a visit with her father one time, that she had a pulled muscle in her leg and could not walk for 3 weeks. I do not know how much of that is true or accurate though.

Is this an accident prone child or what?
 
  • #444
Yes, we know this now but Trista's own comments were she & Justin had an agreement that he would care for Ayla when she went to Rehab if he moved back to his mother's house.

+ Mom's family has not seen Ayla since 17 Oct
+ 10 days in Rehab & no residence & 9 month baby
+ Ayla living with Gma & Aunt prior to CFS involvement
+ Someone said Justin didn't want anything to do with Ayla prior to June (what happened then?)

Praying for Ayla

I thought you were asking a question....
Originally Posted by krimekat
so did Trista & Justin have an agreement about Ayla's care or did CFS remove Ayla?
BEM: What am I missing?
:waitasec:
 
  • #445
Justin Dipietro is 24 years old according to Dr. Drew.

Wow, seeing her on Dr Drew convinces me she has no idea where the little girl is. I had my doubts about her emotions, but this is genuine. I think she thought he was going to say, "just kidding" at some point. Now she's scared IMO.
 
  • #446
Just found this...my apologies if it's old info :biggrin:

Father speaks for first time
http://www.pressherald.com/news/Fat...s-for-first-time.html?cmpid=breaking-news-box


filed a complaint against DiPietro for determination of paternity, parental rights and responsibilities and child support,

BBM - a quote from the above link...Personally, when I see requests for child support it bothers me. I know that some people need it, and that some parents can't manage to be civil enough to work it out among themselves, but give me my child and to heck with the child support for the moment. It causes doubt in my mind on the reasons mom wants custody and whether dad thought he would have to pay out along with losing his daughter.

I had custody of my girls without any court document. Dad knew there was no way he was taking my children from me. He also knew that I would be reasonable and fair with visitation and access. No child support either. When they needed school clothes, trips, winter clothes, birthday gifts...dad supported very well.
 
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  • #448
Please forgive me, but I am still confused on at least one point:

Was Ayla with JD because TR asked him to keep Ayla while she went to rehab?

Or was Ayla with Gma and CFS took Ayla, because Gma's living situation was not acceptable?

Or was Ayla with TR's sister and same as above with CFS?

Or did JD contact CFS and demand that Ayla be in his care while TR was in rehab?

:waitasec:

It's not clear to me if there was an agreement made before TR went into treatment that was amended while she was there those 10 days (don't get me started on THAT), or if JD having Ayla was the plan from the beginning.

Now I am confusing myself. :crazy:
 
  • #449
I thought you were asking a question....

BEM: What am I missing?
:waitasec:

You're not missing anything, vlpate, I was just pointing out inconsistencies between what is being reported & what the mother said regarding how Ayla went to live with Justin.

Praying for Ayla's family & for Ayla to come home

And this too: family continues to say that Ayla had bruises & pulled muscles & broken arm when with Justin, but they also said Ayla never visited with Justin or he had no interest in her until CPS took her ? Just confusing
 
  • #450
BBM - a quote from the above link...Personally, when I see requests for child support it bothers me. I know that some people need it, and that some parents can't manage to be civil enough to work it out among themselves, but give me my child and to heck with the child support for the moment. It causes doubt in my mind on the reasons mom wants custody and whether dad thought he would have to pay out along with losing his daughter.

I had custody of my girls without any court document. Dad knew there was no way he was taking my children from me. He also knew that I would be reasonable and fair with visitation and access. No child support either. When they needed school clothes, trips, winter clothes, birthday gifts...dad supported very well.

Your children were very lucky you both had a mutual agreement; most don't agree & that is why we need a court system to protect the children. Looks like the court needed to decide this case & suddenly the child goes missing the next day. If there is a connection & I bet there is; which parent would benefit if the child was missing child?
 
  • #451
You're not missing anything, vlpate, I was just pointing out inconsistencies between what is being reported & what the mother said regarding how Ayla went to live with Justin.

Praying for Ayla's family & for Ayla to come home

And this too: family continues to say that Ayla had bruises & pulled muscles & broken arm when with Justin, but they also said Ayla never visited with Justin or he had no interest in her until CPS took her ? Just confusing

HANSON: Because daddy really never had anything to do with the baby much before the June of this year.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1112/20/ng.01.html

bbm. quote from Ayla's maternal grandmother
 
  • #452
Please forgive me, but I am still confused on at least one point:

Was Ayla with JD because TR asked him to keep Ayla while she went to rehab?

Or was Ayla with Gma and CFS took Ayla, because Gma's living situation was not acceptable?

Or was Ayla with TR's sister and same as above with CFS?

Or did JD contact CFS and demand that Ayla be in his care while TR was in rehab?

:waitasec:

It's not clear to me if there was an agreement made before TR went into treatment that was amended while she was there those 10 days (don't get me started on THAT), or if JD having Ayla was the plan from the beginning.

Now I am confusing myself. :crazy:

Thank you for posting this. You took the words right out of my mouth. I have been trying to figure out which way is the way it really happened ever since I started reading this thread from the beginning.

Also, I've seen people posting about whether or not the dad was supposed to keep Ayla for just ten days and how did CPS intervene in that short amount of time. I don't have the link, it's way back somewhere, but Trista stated that he was to take care of Ayla until she was through with rehab and back on her feet. Even if she was only in rehab for only ten days, she could of still been doing outpatient or AA or other things regarding her alcohol recovery, and all I'm saying is, I took what Trista said as to mean, for the dad to take care of Ayla while Trista was trying to maintain sobriety, maybe make other living arrangements, get a job, get on her feet etc. JMO, but I don't think it was intended for him to just keep Ayla ten days and I don't think Trista thought she would be recovered in ten days either. She probably knew that it would take months for her to get healthier.

All I know for sure is...if I was in recovery for alcohol or drugs, this sadly sure would make me fall off the wagon. If she is still maintaining her sobriety through this, she can make it through anything. MOO.
 
  • #453
So my next question would be WHY didn't he want to give the baby back to her mom. Was he loving fatherhood so much that he couldn't stand to return her? Or was he not wanting to pay child support if he did so? Or was he worried about some injuries she had sustained?

I have to say that I am on the fence about the dad. I think Mom has been doing an all out attack and I am not sure I believe everything she has put out there so far.

When the state places a child with you, you cannot just give them back. The court must order any changes in custody. We don't know why this child was removed from moms custody, but it is likely that she had to go to rehab to work toward regaining custody.
This is a side issue, though. I have seen nothing that implicates mom in this child's disappearance. I am wondering if someone who was on the home for the party kidnapped her. There has been no information about dad except from mom and her family and that seems to be biased.
Dad moved into his moms home and may not have had control over who was invited in. Wish Maine had sunshine laws.:waitasec:
 
  • #454
Your children were very lucky you both had a mutual agreement; most don't agree & that is why we need a court system to protect the children. Looks like the court needed to decide this case & suddenly the child goes missing the next day. If there is a connection & I bet there is; which parent would benefit if the child was missing child?

Parents who truly have their child's best interest at heart do the right thing. It'as the selfish ones who hurt the children ... the children are beside the point, IMO.
 
  • #455
With complete respect to those whose opinions differ:

I absolutely think the parents of a missing child (especially these "missing from their beds" type of cases) should be treated as "POIs". As should anyone else who was in the home or had access to the missing child. From the first minute.

That does not mean overstepping legal procedures or harassing the parents, but they should be surveilled and questioned, vehicles should be searched, etc. Too much valuable time can pass if the parents are not immediately looked at for the disappearance.

I think (I won't say I KNOW, because who does unless they find themselves in that position?) that I would expect to be treated as a suspect/POI if my child went missing under suspicious circumstances while in my care. And as I have said before, I would retain an attorney right away. It would be the sensible thing to do and I honestly don't see how an innocent parent having representation impedes an investigation.

That said, I do think that parents who do not cooperate with LE either on their own or under the advice of counsel are highly suspect. Finding that child should be the MOST important thing and an innocent parent, it seems, would move heaven and earth to cooperate.

And by cooperate, I mean with LE. I totally get not wanting to speak to the press and they are under no obligation to tell 'us' anything. As much as we want to know EVERYTHING. And I do. I just can't say that not talking to the media looks hinky.

I don't think I would be in any shape to talk to the media if my baby were missing. I *think* (don't ever want to find out, though) I would have to be heavily sedated.
 
  • #456
When the state places a child with you, you cannot just give them back. The court must order any changes in custody. We don't know why this child was removed from moms custody, but it is likely that she had to go to rehab to work toward regaining custody.
This is a side issue, though. I have seen nothing that implicates mom in this child's disappearance. I am wondering if someone who was on the home for the party kidnapped her. There has been no information about dad except from mom and her family and that seems to be biased.
Dad moved into his moms home and may not have had control over who was invited in. Wish Maine had sunshine laws.:waitasec:

Bolded by me respectfully :)

Mom said she filed the paperwork herself at court (and there is a form that can be downloaded to submit to court on your own if you search for Maine child custody ...etc.) to establish paternity and custody and child support (IIRC).

Would CPS give custody to a Father that had not been legally declared a parent?

(real question above not being a smartypants)

JMHO
 
  • #457
The parents of a missing child are danged if they do and danged if they don't. If they talk to the media they are critized and critiqued for every word they say. Even though we all know the media clips the interviews and can cause someone to appear different than they really are. Even make them look guilty by their answers or partial answers.

If they don't speak to the media they are critized and accused of hiding something. The same goes for hiring or not hiring an attorney.

I don't know what I would do and I hope I never find out!

All the bumps and bruises my sons had would have made me look like an abusive parent if one of them had disappeared. My youngest son had his collar bone broken twice in a week. First when his cousin threw him off the top bunk bed and 3 days later when his other cousin threw him off the front porch. Boys can play pretty rough!

I see bruised children everyday and know they probably bumped into the wrong thing or fell down.

Broken bones, bruises, are a part of growing up. That's why it is so hard to identify a child who is actually being abused.

moo

There are many times those bruises and broken limbs are not innocent, and I don't think ignoring them is the answer either.
 
  • #458
Boy did I read this wrong..
On NG banner says "Daddy of missing tot from bed claims he's innocent"

My dumbazz read it as the dad from his bed is claiming his innocence!!! :crazy: it took me about to quote matou's post with this NG banner in my reading it for the third time to figure out what it meant:crazy:
 
  • #459
Kat, my experience working with court ordered cases is that proof is needed if parents were not married. If married, husband is legally the father. Once the court becomes involved via child protective services, the court makes decisions about custody. Courts don't give custody without checking many things.
 
  • #460
Kat, my experience working with court ordered cases is that proof is needed if parents were not married. If married, husband is legally the father. Once the court becomes involved via child protective services, the court makes decisions about custody. Courts don't give custody without checking many things.

Thanks Mom! The reason I asked is because I have lived within military communties completely for the last 2 decades. I have no knowledge at all of how this would work in the civilian sector. Thank you again!
 
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