ME ME - Ayla Reynolds, 20 mnths, Waterville, 17 December 2011 - # 5

[keeponsearching]

Its important to keep the same routine. Ayla was probably use to sleeping with her cousin, who sometimes went to the moms. The gf son was younger, he could still be waking in the night. Remember the gf really only visited on weekends.

 

[katydid23]

Its important to keep the same routine. Ayla was probably use to sleeping with her cousin, who sometimes went to the moms. The gf son was younger, he could still be waking in the night. Remember the gf really only visited on weekends.

I read somewhere that Justin had been with his gf on and off for 5 years. Is her child his child as well? And how did she feel when she found out about Ayla? Very curious about that aspect still.

 

[Helenstreet]

Its important to keep the same routine. Ayla was probably use to sleeping with her cousin, who sometimes went to the moms. The gf son was younger, he could still be waking in the night. Remember the gf really only visited on weekends.

Actually, I believe that CR's son is older than Ayla. Respectfully, in my opinion it doesn't make any sense that Ayla was excluded from being with her father while his girlfriend and older son sleep with him.

 

[katydid23]

Actually, I believe that CR's son is older than Ayla. Respectfully, in my opinion it doesn't make any sense that Ayla was excluded from being with her father whilee his girlfriend anf older son sleep with him.

I have to admit, this seems kind of unfair to Justin. I mean what would people say if his family said " Ayla used always to sleep in the basement in bed with her father." Seriously, wouldn't that cause some concern with some people? I don't have a problem with her being in her own room in her own toddler bed.

 

[naturallyme]

So, ED's child stayed in her room with her, CR's child stayed with her and her boyfriend, and JD's child was left alone in a room? Does this sound normal? A parent would have a woman and an unrelated child in his room, but leave his baby girl,(with an arm injury), alone in a room, upstairs where he is not likely to hear her. Wow, how convenient for whoever snatched Ayla, huh?! The one and only toddler alone out of three children.

Exact same thinking here. I am also wondering if the little boy is unrelated. That website says that Justin has had a long relationship with Courtney. Don't know how long that long is but....... I guess it is possible that the little boy could be his child.

 

[stilettos]

I have to admit, this seems kind of unfair to Justin. I mean what would people say if his family said " Ayla used always to sleep in the basement in bed with her father." Seriously, wouldn't that cause some concern with some people? I don't have a problem with her being in her own room in her own toddler bed.

The only issue take with it is the difference in arrangements. It is odd that the other child was not in the children's room and bunked w/Mom and BF-lover. Wonder what the child is privy to in that shared bed?

 

[katydid23]

The only issue take with it is the difference in arrangements. It is odd that the other child was not in the children's room and bunked w/Mom and BF-lover. Wonder what the child is privy to in that shared bed?

I don't think we know for sure if the little boy was in the basement with them.
He might have been asleep on a couch upstairs or even in Ayla's room. I do not think it has been established yet.

But if he was in the room with his mom, that makes some sense, because he was just visiting the house. Ayla would be comfortable in her own room in her own bed, most likely. But maybe the little boy was not comfortable being away from his mom.

 

[LvsAMystry]

I don't think we know for sure if the little boy was in the basement with them.
He might have been asleep on a couch upstairs or even in Ayla's room. I do not think it has been established yet.

But if he was in the room with his mom, that makes some sense, because he was just visiting the house. Ayla would be comfortable in her own room in her own bed, most likely. But maybe the little boy was not comfortable being away from his mom.

Agreed. All kids are different with different needs anyway, argument could be made that Ayla comfortable and down in her own bed shows a happy well-adjusted child

 

[ThoughtFox]

The only issue take with it is the difference in arrangements. It is odd that the other child was not in the children's room and bunked w/Mom and BF-lover. Wonder what the child is privy to in that shared bed?

It doesn't say he was in the bed with them, does it? Only that he was in the basement. I figured he might have been on a different couch or in a playpen bed or something.

IF he was even in the basement that night. He could have been upstairs and this just isn't true. :cow:

 

[HiHater]

It makes sense that the little boy would be sleeping with JD and CR---he was a visitor. He did not have his own bed at the home, and letting him sleep with one of the other children wouldn't be plausible. Ayla had a broken arm which could very easily be kicked or hit by another sleeping child. ED's baby is young and one of them may sleep wildly, who knows? Perhaps their sleeping arrangements seem to "leave Ayla out", but they probably made those arrangements only during the weekends and to cause as little discomfort to everyone as possible. JD and CR could have had a play pen for the baby boy in their room or in the living room.

IDK, nothing is weird to me about the sleeping arrangements or ED coming to get her baby out of the room. Also, nothing about the gate confuses me, and I think the talk about that started because someone thought that detail was contradictory or confusing.

 

[HiHater]

Agreed. All kids are different with different needs anyway, argument could be made that Ayla comfortable and down in her own bed shows a happy well-adjusted child

True, and if my child's arm was broken I wouldn't be able to sleep with them in the bed with me. I'd be scared to roll over or accidentally hit it and cause pain.

It is also unfair for TR to say that Ayla didn't sleep through the night. That may have been true as far as when she was with TR. Where did TR care for Ayla? She has no permanent address so perhaps Ayla didn't have the consistency with TR that she had with JD. Bed time routines are important, and I would imagine falling asleep in the same place every night plays a big role in that.

 

[deoneta]

I don't think we know for sure if the little boy was in the basement with them.
He might have been asleep on a couch upstairs or even in Ayla's room. I do not think it has been established yet.

But if he was in the room with his mom, that makes some sense, because he was just visiting the house. Ayla would be comfortable in her own room in her own bed, most likely. But maybe the little boy was not comfortable being away from his mom.

http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/new-website-offers-fresh-details-on-ayla_2012-01-20.html

According to Harry who set up the website for the DiPietros and who says her info is from phone interviews with JD and others, the gf's baby was downstairs with her mom and JD. Much is made of CR being the "long time" girlfriend while much is also made of TR and JD not having a relationship on Harry's website. I wonder if JD is the father of CR's baby, and if he was perhaps living with CR prior to moving back in with PD. That could result in lots of reasons for possible tension with the move to Waterville and JD taking custody of Ayla. All my conjecture and all MOO.

 

[ThoughtFox]

I think it is far more likely that the reason the sister and daughter are sharing a room is because the girlfriend's baby is sleeping in the room with Ayla. Thus
giving Justin and girlfriend privacy in the basement. MOO

I think that's much more plausible. :twocents:

Several times with our kids over the years we had the crib in the room with us, and there wasn't any whoopee going on. Everything had to stay quiet so the baby could sleep.

I really don't see anything wrong with Ayla being a room by herself. My kids had rooms to themselves and we didn't go in unless they cried or called out to us.

The strange part is the child missing from a house full of sleeping adults and other children. :cow:

 

[naturallyme]

http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/new-website-offers-fresh-details-on-ayla_2012-01-20.html

According to Harry who set up the website for the DiPietros and who says her info is from phone interviews with JD and others, the gf's baby was downstairs with her mom and JD. Much is made of CR being the "long time" girlfriend while much is also made of TR and JD not having a relationship on Harry's website. I wonder if JD is the father of CR's baby, and if he was perhaps living with CR prior to moving back in with PD. That could result in lots of reasons for possible tension with the move to Waterville and JD taking custody of Ayla. All my conjecture and all MOO.

I remember reading somewhere that Justin had been living in an apt. in Portland with 3 other roommates. It didn't say who those roommates were.

I would also be interested to know, if he worked and where?

 

[ThoughtFox]

True, and if my child's arm was broken I wouldn't be able to sleep with them in the bed with me. I'd be scared to roll over or accidentally hit it and cause pain.

It is also unfair for TR to say that Ayla didn't sleep through the night. That may have been true as far as when she was with TR. Where did TR care for Ayla? She has no permanent address so perhaps Ayla didn't have the consistency with TR that she had with JD. Bed time routines are important, and I would imagine falling asleep in the same place every night plays a big role in that.

Let's be a little fair to the mother ~ she knew her child, after all.

And Ayla had to get used to a new "strange place" when she was taken away by Justin, so it's six of one, half a dozen of the other. :twocents:

But children that age don't really care whether they sleep in a stroller or sleep in a fold-up crib, as long as they feel secure. It's not ideal, but what really matters is having the same caregiver every day.

Oh, and it's also nice to be safe while you're in bed. As the story stands now, it seems that Ayla might have been safer in a hotel room with her mother than in the more "stable" household with her father. JMOO JMOO JMOO

:cow:

 

[Donjeta]

http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/new-website-offers-fresh-details-on-ayla_2012-01-20.html

According to Harry who set up the website for the DiPietros and who says her info is from phone interviews with JD and others, the gf's baby was downstairs with her mom and JD. Much is made of CR being the "long time" girlfriend while much is also made of TR and JD not having a relationship on Harry's website. I wonder if JD is the father of CR's baby, and if he was perhaps living with CR prior to moving back in with PD. That could result in lots of reasons for possible tension with the move to Waterville and JD taking custody of Ayla. All my conjecture and all MOO.

If the gf and JDP had been together before or during JDP's relationship or fling or affair or whatever they call the connection with TR that resulted in Ayla being born I could see there being some resentment and tension.

I don't know but it is my impression that the GF's son isn't JDP's. He is always been referred to as "the girlfriend's son" or words to that effect that I've seen, but wouldn't he be more likely to be referred to as "Ayla's half brother" if Justin was his father?

 

[Helenstreet]

Exact same thinking here. I am also wondering if the little boy is unrelated. That website says that Justin has had a long relationship with Courtney. Don't know how long that long is but....... I guess it is possible that the little boy could be his child.

Interesting--I brought this very question up on here previously.

 

[naturallyme]

If the gf and JDP had been together before or during JDP's relationship or fling or affair or whatever they call the connection with TR that resulted in Ayla being born I could see there being some resentment and tension.

I don't know but it is my impression that the GF's son isn't JDP's. He is always been referred to as "the girlfriend's son" or words to that effect that I've seen, but wouldn't he be more likely to be referred to as "Ayla's half brother" if Justin was his father?

You would think that he would be referred to as a sibling if that were the case. However, getting the real facts in this case has been like a dripping faucet, one drip at a time.

 

[Helenstreet]

I have to admit, this seems kind of unfair to Justin. I mean what would people say if his family said " Ayla used always to sleep in the basement in bed with her father." Seriously, wouldn't that cause some concern with some people? I don't have a problem with her being in her own room in her own toddler bed.

I in no way implied that Ayla should be in the same bed as her father. By the same reasoning, what would people say if the girlfriend's child slept in the same bed with Justin and the girlfriend? I really don't know where the little boy slept, but according to the article he was with JP and the girlfriend. I thought that he was probably in his own bed, but in the same room. Personally, I am all for the "family bed", but that doesn't sound like the scenario here.

 

[HiHater]

Let's be a little fair to the mother ~ she knew her child, after all.

And Ayla had to get used to a new "strange place" when she was taken away by Justin, so it's six of one, half a dozen of the other. :twocents:

But children that age don't really care whether they sleep in a stroller or sleep in a fold-up crib, as long as they feel secure. It's not ideal, but what really matters is having the same caregiver every day.

Oh, and it's also nice to be safe while you're in bed. As the story stands now, it seems that Ayla might have been safer in a hotel room with her mother than in the more "stable" household with her father. JMOO JMOO JMOO

:cow:

All good points; however, I don't think TR can say whether or not Ayla was sleeping through the night when she was with JD. 2 months (Oct-Dec) is along time for a child to adjust. JMO