ME ME - Ayla Reynolds, 20 mnths, Waterville, 17 December 2011 - # 6

[Kiln Wood]

The problem with coming up with motive is there is very little information on any of the house occupants so how can you determine motive if you know next to nothing about the people themselves?

BBM

There is a LOT to be learned "about the people themselves" if anyone wishes to use the internet to search (and I'm not talking about social media websites). Some of us here have already undertaken such research with interesting results.....

 

[tamild]

Could Jessica have got the attorney for both Trista and herself and they worded it that way since Jessica was paying the bill.

Thank you for your thoughts! I considered what you posted above, but if Trista had representation, wouldn't the attorney work toward having the "agreement" enforced? Also, now that I think of it, wouldn't Trista have had her attorney file for parental rights instead of doing it herself?

 

[LvsAMystry]

Sorry if this has already been said and I'm just repeating, but is it just me or does the conclusion after "food for thought" seem to imply TR feels PD was completely behind Ayla being turned over to JD? It wouldn't be a stretch from there to assume if that's the case and if anyone at all has Ayla hidden, it could be her. OTOH seeing the actual description/words relating to the bruising and the pulled leg is ominous and sticks in my gut

 

[Kiln Wood]

:seeya:

Below are 2 of GM, Phoebe DiPietro's statements ... NOTE the "change" in her "stories":


Snipped from : http://www.necn.com/pages/video?PID=...hYNAfkVBVlyyM8

PD: You're waiting for a phonecall. Hoping that the police have your granddaughter.
She's quiet, very sweet. Her eyes, she's got the bluest eyes and the longest eyelashes.
Q: There's no accident that could have happened that night?
PD: No.
Q: Among anyone here?
PD: No.
Q: You? Justin? The other people that were here?
PD: No, no.
Q: Something covered up?
PD: No, no.
PD: I can tell you that there was not a party, here at the house.
Q: People had dinner, watched television, eventually went to bed?
PD: Pretty much. Uh, yeah. I really have to avoid that question.
Q: You didn't hear any noise?
PD: I did not hear anything.
Q: ...



Snipped from : http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/08/us/maine-missing-toddler/

Ayla's grandmother, Phoebe DiPietro, who first spoke exclusively with CNN on Friday, said she now wants to clarify a detail about her interview.

DiPietro now tells CNN she was not among the adults at the home from which Ayla disappeared that night but instead was at another location that she wouldn't publicly disclose.

DiPietro said she told police about her whereabouts that night from the very start. She added that it's her impression detectives followed up on her information early on.

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:waitasec: So ... since Phoebe has changed her "story" and says she was NOT at the house the night Ayla went "missing" -- and was at another location :

I wonder IF she has a CREDIBLE "alibi" and WHO is her CREDIBLE "alibi" ...

MOO ...

BBM

And I wonder if this credible alibi and the who of her credible alibi lead to Ayla's present whereabouts? Based on what I perceive to be the constantly shifting sands of the information released to the public about Ayla's being missing, it certainly is not beyond the realm of possibility that if PD's alibi has been verified without additional questions being asked that something vitally important has been inadvertently overlooked.

I had suggested in an earlier post on Thread No. 5 that there are a lot of people who "mind their own business" and will provide only the EXACT answer to the question being asked; I had also stated this is a version of the "don't ask, don't tell" scenario that has been featured very prominently in MSM in the last several years.

In no way am I not supporting LE efforts to find Ayla--particularly in the weather conditions in which they have had to work.

 

[tamild]

Sorry if this has already been said and I'm just repeating, but is it just me or does the conclusion after "food for thought" seem to imply TR feels PD was completely behind Ayla being turned over to JD? It wouldn't be a stretch from there to assume if that's the case and if anyone at all has Ayla hidden, it could be her. OTOH seeing the actual description/words relating to the bruising and the pulled leg is ominous and sticks in my gut

Oh no, it's not just you. They are implying very strongly that PD was behind the whole thing.

 

[naturallyme]

Thank you for your thoughts! I considered what you posted above, but if Trista had representation, wouldn't the attorney work toward having the "agreement" enforced? Also, now that I think of it, wouldn't Trista have had her attorney file for parental rights instead of doing it herself?

All sorts of things can come into play here. Probably Trista did not have the money for an attorney. Perhaps her family didn't have the money for an attorney, or if they did they could have felt that they had already given her all the financial assistance they could. Then again perhaps she had an attorney and he wasn't doing anything (been there done that have the tee shirt) so she decided to do it herself.

 

[Kiln Wood]

Sorry if this has already been said and I'm just repeating, but is it just me or does the conclusion after "food for thought" seem to imply TR feels PD was completely behind Ayla being turned over to JD? It wouldn't be a stretch from there to assume if that's the case and if anyone at all has Ayla hidden, it could be her. OTOH seeing the actual description/words relating to the bruising and the pulled leg is ominous and sticks in my gut

BBM

Very interesting observation.....

 

[cluciano63]

I am stuck on what anyone has to gain by "hiding" Ayla...when and how do they think they can reunite with her, and raise her? It makes no sense. This is not like the thousands of cases every year when a parent absconds with a child to gain custody illegally. I can't believe that someone went to the trouble of arranging a secret "hiding place" without thinking ahead, at least a little bit. What next???

That is mainly why I can't believe this is what is happening here. If JD had really thought that Trista had taken Ayla, or arranged to have her taken, he would have been on her like a ton of bricks, right from the start, instead of avoiding her. I think if anyone knows more about what happened to Ayla than the other one, it is JD knowing more than TR.

JMO

 

[Helenstreet]

I am stuck on what anyone has to gain by "hiding" Ayla...when and how do they think they can reunite with her, and raise her? It makes no sense. This is not like the thousands of cases every year when a parent absconds with a child to gain custody illegally. I can't believe that someone went to the trouble of arranging a secret "hiding place" without thinking ahead, at least a little bit. What next???

That is mainly why I can't believe this is what is happening here. If JD had really thought that Trista had taken Ayla, or arranged to have her taken, he would have been on her like a ton of bricks, right from the start, instead of avoiding her. I think if anyone knows more about what happened to Ayla than the other one, it is JD knowing more than TR.

JMO

I agree with you 100%. After all, we are not talking about lifestyles of the rich and famous here. I cannot imagine that a "family friend" or Phoebe for that matter would be willing, have the financial means, and/or level of intelligence to "stash" Ayla somewhere and even get away with it this long.

 

[cluciano63]

Also from what we have read, true, exagerated or otherwise, one would think that JD's mom would be loudly accusing TR of wrongdoing if there wasn't some reason for her not to do so...doesn't seem to be any love lost there. JMO

 

[Helenstreet]

I didn't know if this had been posted already or not:

http://www.kjonline.com/news/website-for-ayla-reynolds-generates-some-controversy_2012-01-23.html

 

[naturallyme]

I didn't know if this had been posted already or not:

http://www.kjonline.com/news/website-for-ayla-reynolds-generates-some-controversy_2012-01-23.html

Thanks! I am glad to see the local media picking up on this. I think they did a good job with the interview.

They mentioned briefly Trista's Timeline but didn't go into detail I had hoped they would. I think that also needs to be in MSM so those that might not use the web will be aware.

 

[ThoughtFox]

Thanks! I am glad to see the local media picking up on this. I think they did a good job with the interview.

They mentioned briefly Trista's Timeline but didn't go into detail I had hoped they would. I think that also needs to be in MSM so those that might not use the web will be aware.

I'm glad they mentioned how often she changed her website within 24 hours then said it was all a mistake in the first place. If she got the story directly from the DiPietros, then there's a couple of scenarios.

The story she posted might have been total bunk.

Or the original story she posted was basically true but she realized people online had zeroed in on the gate detail and the family asked her to change it.

Or she really got the girlfriend mixed up with the sister as the one who discovered Ayla was missing, and that was her fault.

Or someone had told her a different story than they told police and when they realized the names were switched they told her to change it, which explains all the back peddling to the media and the "ha ha ha, silly me, I goofed up, all my fault."

Finally, it could be that she was asked by the family to do this and given a written account which contained "too much information." A mistake on everyone's part.

 

[naturallyme]

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/46070009/ns/today-today_people/#.Tx5PXfl2M1r

The article gives this quote from Justin.....

Both parents have cooperated with the investigation, say local police. NBC News asked DiPietro if he would be willing to take another lie-detector test. “How I’m dealing with this deserves no explanation,’’ he said before declining further comment.


Anyone care to break that comment down into something I can understand.

 

[Yoda]

Who are we permitted to sleuth? And by that I mean discuss about on this thread. TR JD PD CR? ED? JR? Tia

 

[HiHater]

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/46070009/ns/today-today_people/#.Tx5PXfl2M1r

The article gives this quote from Justin.....

Both parents have cooperated with the investigation, say local police. NBC News asked DiPietro if he would be willing to take another lie-detector test. “How I’m dealing with this deserves no explanation,’’ he said before declining further comment.


Anyone care to break that comment down into something I can understand.

He doesn't owe anyone an explanation of how he is dealing with the disappearance of his child. (?)

 

[HiHater]

All sorts of things can come into play here. Probably Trista did not have the money for an attorney. Perhaps her family didn't have the money for an attorney, or if they did they could have felt that they had already given her all the financial assistance they could. Then again perhaps she had an attorney and he wasn't doing anything (been there done that have the tee shirt) so she decided to do it herself.

Re: Jessica and the attorney---I keep referring to this site lol

Sometimes family members will ask to intervene in the child protective court case. If you are an intervenor, you are a party to the case, just like DHHS and the parents. You have to file a motion with the Court requesting intervenor status in the child protective case. You must show that your rights may be adversely affected, unless you are given intervenor status in the case. This is the most difficult standard to meet. If granted, you have the same procedural rights as other parties to the case. You can speak at hearings, present or cross-examine witnesses, present evidence, and see court documents. These are complex procedures, and it is recommended that you consult with a lawyer.

This seems like it would be Jessica's role; but if the family could only afford one attorney, why not direct the monies to represent the most affected person---TR?

 

[deoneta]

I didn't know if this had been posted already or not:

http://www.kjonline.com/news/website-for-ayla-reynolds-generates-some-controversy_2012-01-23.html

This tells a different, different story. Now we are backing to ED discovering Ayla missing, but here she tells CR who is the one to inform JD. No rushing in this version. All MOO.

 

[HiHater]

I sure did notice, and I am wondering if it is true. If true, it is interesting indeed.

Also Trista's Ayla site now says the Timeline will be taking down tomorrow. Don't know what to make of that, but at least she gave notice and didn't just password protect it. If LE gave their approval, could it have been that they did not want to give out info. but wanted the info. out there? So many possibles, not enough answers.

The comments may no longer visible, but if you notice one poster was accusing admin of deleting his/her comment and then taking credit for "discovering" the timeline. The admin then says he had the timeline since 1/12 but did not release it because TR was waiting for approval from the state police.

Admin of the FB further states that TR and camp were accusing him of leaking the timeline, because they saw it appearing on sites like Hinky Meter. Admin of the FB also said that the person running aylareynolds.com did not know that the timeline was accessible online so he removed it. That indicates that the timeline was NOT approved; otherwise TR would have published it herself instead of accusing someone of "leaking" it. The timeline was quite heavily revised, and then released because it was already starting to circulate.

I do not have screenshots, but if you followed the page then you know exactly what I'm talking about. You can still see the poster (with no pic) who posted the unedited timeline, and then later states that he/she "stands corrected".

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/46070009/ns/today-today_people/#.Tx5PXfl2M1r

The article gives this quote from Justin.....

Both parents have cooperated with the investigation, say local police. NBC News asked DiPietro if he would be willing to take another lie-detector test. “How I’m dealing with this deserves no explanation,’’ he said before declining further comment.


Anyone care to break that comment down into something I can understand.

I am hearing in these words a little boy who is saying..."I am taking MY ball and going home!"...while he's pouting.