ME ME - Ayla Reynolds, 20 mnths, Waterville, 17 December 2011 - # 6

[Lavanda Dolce]

I do want to point out that while everyone has theories regarding Ayla's case...and we all know this is a criminal investigation, as is any child missing/harmed/abducted/or murdered in their home, that no person has been named a suspect. Until evidence presented by police suggest otherwise, the public NEEDS to look for a living child.

 

[tamild]

so JVM built up this interview with the friend. She said she will tell us who was in the home that night, etc.

Then the woman got on there and said she only knew what she saw on the news, pretty much. lol FAIL

I just got around to watching the interview today. IMHO, the friend did give up a bit of useful information. She said that Trista's substance was mainly
alcohol. I feel she was going to elaborate when she was cut off by JVM. (grrr...why won't these hosts allow guests to speak?) Also, if we believe the friend, Ayla was in Trista's care all of the time. Ayla didn't spend nights away from home. So my question is, were the children always in Trista's care while she was becoming increasingly more dependent on mainly alcohol? If so, why didn't Ayla's "much more mature and loving" caregivers intervene? Or did they? :waitasec: Who called the police the night of the altercation between Jessica and Trista?

What does any of this matter? I have no idea. All I know is that Ayla is nowhere to be found, and LE has ruled out no one and no scenario.

 

[MaryAnn]

I haven't posted on this thread yet, but there is something about Ayla's Mother that strikes me as odd. It was the tone of her voice while speaking with JVM. She didn't sound like she had lost her Daughter, maybe it's just me??

 

[ThoughtFox]

I do want to point out that while everyone has theories regarding Ayla's case...and we all know this is a criminal investigation, as is any child missing/harmed/abducted/or murdered in their home, that no person has been named a suspect. Until evidence presented by police suggest otherwise, the public NEEDS to look for a living child.

But LE searched the river weeks after Ayla went missing. I don't believe they were searching for a living child. :twocents:

 

[Breazy]

Haven't posted here but have been following....

I don't believe Trista is responsible for Ayla being missing and I believe all those associated with JD are definitely covering. Exactly what they're covering, I just don't know. Not completely convinced that Ayla was harmed intentionally but can see an accident of some kind, due to their neglect, being covered up. I pray this doesn't go the way of so many others. I pray answers are uncovered and Ayla is found!!!

 

[cluciano63]

The fact that LE conducted the river search after stating that "foul play" had occurred is worrisome...I believe this was done after the forensic exam on the house and when LE announced the "foul play" determined by "evidence." JMO

 

[dog.gone.cute]

I do want to point out that while everyone has theories regarding Ayla's case...and we all know this is a criminal investigation, as is any child missing/harmed/abducted/or murdered in their home, that no person has been named a suspect. Until evidence presented by police suggest otherwise, the public NEEDS to look for a living child.

:seeya: While NO person has been named a suspect, or even a POI ...

JMO ... but it is pretty obvious to me that LE is focusing on a particular person and a particular house ...

LE very rarely PUBLICLY NAMES suspects or poi's any more because of the "defense attorneys" and their "underhanded tactics", the possibility of lawsuits, blah blah blah ...

BUT ... that does NOT mean LE doesn't have a suspect -- LE just keeps their "lips sealed".


JMO ... while it is important to remain optimistic that Ayla is still alive, I do not believe that to be the case since LE has been searching rivers up there in Maine, in those cold temperatures ... and Bless those searchers ...

MOO ...

 

[naturallyme]

The fact that LE conducted the river search after stating that "foul play" had occurred is worrisome...I believe this was done after the forensic exam on the house and when LE announced the "foul play" determined by "evidence." JMO

I am not at all familiar with Polygraph exams, but could they have asked Justin on his polygraph if he went near any bodies of water on the night of Dec. 16/17.

I have been reading that LDT are used to help LE with investigations. I could see asking that question, as water searches are expensive and even dangerous in those frozen waters. Asking a person if they went near rivers dumpsters could eliminate and save a lot of time and expense.

Could that have been the reason for the searches. Did the searches begin shortly after he took the LDT?

 

[cluciano63]

I am not at all familiar with Polygraph exams, but could they have asked Justin on his polygraph if he went near any bodies of water on the night of Dec. 16/17.

I have been reading that LDT are used to help LE with investigations. I could see asking that question, as water searches are expensive and even dangerous in those frozen waters. Asking a person if they went near rivers dumpsters could eliminate and save a lot of time and expense.

Could that have been the reason for the searches. Did the searches begin shortly after he took the LDT?

If we are to believe JD, didn't he say he took the LD right away, at the beginning?

Besides, I think the river is an obvious place to search, unfortunately, if they feel Ayla is not alive. JMO

 

[dog.gone.cute]

I am not at all familiar with Polygraph exams, but could they have asked Justin on his polygraph if he went near any bodies of water on the night of Dec. 16/17.

I have been reading that LDT are used to help LE with investigations. I could see asking that question, as water searches are expensive and even dangerous in those frozen waters. Asking a person if they went near rivers dumpsters could eliminate and save a lot of time and expense.

Could that have been the reason for the searches. Did the searches begin shortly after he took the LDT?

BBM: Reading this made me wonder about something so jumping in here :

I wonder what JD's cell phone records have revealed to LE, and if they were able to locate where his phone was pinging ?

Also ... the GF, the sister, the mother, the brother's cell phones ... and anyone else who was there that night that the public does not know about ...

Unfortunately, LE is keeping their lips sealed ... so I guess we will not even know about the cell phone records ...

:waitasec: and what a shame because there are some here at WS who did a great job with the cell phone records in the CA case -- sorry I can't remember their names ...

MOO ...

 

[Yoda]

If dad left the home that night could releasing the cell phone ping location help someone remember they saw his car that night near that area?
And is there a thread that discusses LE releasing/non leasing records? If it has helped any cases, hurt cases, any research on the effectiveness of either? I don't want to hijack this thread but I really would like to discuss/debate if this is an effective policy. And if not could one be started and what forum to put it in? Tia

BBM: Reading this made me wonder about something so jumping in here :

I wonder what JD's cell phone records have revealed to LE, and if they were able to locate where his phone was pinging ?

Also ... the GF, the sister, the mother, the brother's cell phones ... and anyone else who was there that night that the public does not know about ...

Unfortunately, LE is keeping their lips sealed ... so I guess we will not even know about the cell phone records ...

:waitasec: and what a shame because there are some here at WS who did a great job with the cell phone records in the CA case -- sorry I can't remember their names ...

MOO ...

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

If dad left the home that night could releasing the cell phone ping location help someone remember they saw his car that night near that area?
And is there a thread that discusses LE releasing/non leasing records? If it has helped any cases, hurt cases, any research on the effectiveness of either? I don't want to hijack this thread but I really would like to discuss/debate if this is an effective policy. And if not could one be started and what forum to put it in? Tia

Yoda....good questions, these are!:seeya:

 

[dog.gone.cute]

If dad left the home that night could releasing the cell phone ping location help someone remember they saw his car that night near that area?
And is there a thread that discusses LE releasing/non leasing records? If it has helped any cases, hurt cases, any research on the effectiveness of either? I don't want to hijack this thread but I really would like to discuss/debate if this is an effective policy. And if not could one be started and what forum to put it in? Tia

BBM: Yes ... good point ... and Hmmm ... maybe someone would remember seeing Justin ? maybe he stopped somewhere that had video cams ?

I sure hope LE checked around -- or anyone who saw him, called it in.

What I am wondering though is IF he left the house that night, IF he took his cell phone -- or left it at home ?

:innocent: I sure wish LE would share with the public if Justin's cell phone "pings" match up with his "story" ....

MOO ...

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Yoda and Sleuthers....this is TOTALLY O/T...but.....

I was giggling one time with DH that "Yoda speak" (Yodish) reminded me of Shakespeare, so I googled to see if there was any connection between the two.

Sure enough, I was not the first to find a correlation. If you go to:
Prestwick Cafe: Monday, December 14, 2009 lain English: "How Yoda Helps Students Master Shakespeare", you will find an article describing how "The speech patterns of Yoda the Jedi Master can help students get past the biggest obstacle in studying Shakespeare: the syntax."

Yoda uses inverted syntax similar to Shakespeare, Homer, and the King James Version of the Bible!

You will even find a picture of Yoda on this article which is very similar to your avatar!

An interesting article, I found this! :wink:

 

[deoneta]

If we are to believe JD, didn't he say he took the LD right away, at the beginning?

Besides, I think the river is an obvious place to search, unfortunately, if they feel Ayla is not alive. JMO

JD said he asked to take the LDT right away, but as of December 22, Chief Massey said no one had taken an LDT (per Askfornina's timeline). I've read at several places (NOT in MSM) that it was more than 2 weeks before JD took the test. All MOO.

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

:seeya: While NO person has been named a suspect, or even a POI ...

JMO ... but it is pretty obvious to me that LE is focusing on a particular person and a particular house ...

LE very rarely PUBLICLY NAMES suspects or poi's any more because of the "defense attorneys" and their "underhanded tactics", the possibility of lawsuits, blah blah blah ...

BUT ... that does NOT mean LE doesn't have a suspect -- LE just keeps their "lips sealed".


JMO ... while it is important to remain optimistic that Ayla is still alive, I do not believe that to be the case since LE has been searching rivers up there in Maine, in those cold temperatures ... and Bless those searchers ...

MOO ...

LE has to focus on one particular home and ALL that were in that home and ALL that had contact with the child. That is normal procedure. So is searching ponds and lakes that are within walking distance had the child left the home on their own. (This is not to say that is or isn't what happened as nobody knows.) Nor does anybody know who the PD feels is their strongest "unspoken suspect." We also do not know what tips or leads came that drew PD to off site searches. Maybe someone recognized a person with a small child by an area that PD decided to search from that tip... and the person/child may not have even been Ayla. Let's just hope and pray that a living Ayla will be brought home.

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

JD said he asked to take the LDT right away, but as of December 22, Chief Massey said no one had taken an LDT (per Askfornina's timeline). I've read at several places (NOT in MSM) that it was more than 2 weeks before JD took the test. All MOO.

I don't know the facts to that, however, if they waited two weeks that is poor procedures, imo. Everyone in the home should have been tested within 24 hours. JMHO

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

If dad left the home that night could releasing the cell phone ping location help someone remember they saw his car that night near that area?
And is there a thread that discusses LE releasing/non leasing records? If it has helped any cases, hurt cases, any research on the effectiveness of either? I don't want to hijack this thread but I really would like to discuss/debate if this is an effective policy. And if not could one be started and what forum to put it in? Tia

If he in fact left home that night, yes..they could do a tower dump and know. Other than a blogger rumor..there is nothing to substantiate to the public that he ever left the home.

 

[deoneta]

I don't know the facts to that, however, if they waited two weeks that is poor procedures, imo. Everyone in the home should have been tested within 24 hours. JMHO

I don't think it was poor procedure. People have to agree to be tested. Remember how Justin had to "regain some emotional stability" before he could address the media? I suspect he might have initially declined for a similar reason. I can't imagine that LE wouldn't administer LDTs within 24 hours if they could, but all MOO.

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

I haven't posted on this thread yet, but there is something about Ayla's Mother that strikes me as odd. It was the tone of her voice while speaking with JVM. She didn't sound like she had lost her Daughter, maybe it's just me??

Ayla's mom is extremely distraught... what you see in the media is 6 minutes of somewhat composure and not the 16 hours of extreme fear she is enduring...yet, through it all she picks herself back up with hope.