ME ME - Ayla Reynolds, 20 mnths, Waterville, 17 December 2011 - # 6

[Lavanda Dolce]

I don't think it was poor procedure. People have to agree to be tested. Remember how Justin had to "regain some emotional stability" before he could address the media? I suspect he might have initially declined for a similar reason. I can't imagine that LE wouldn't administer LDTs within 24 hours if they could, but all MOO.

Yes. Excellent point. In this day and technology you would think they could be more advanced with technology. Like an eye scan or something. lol

 

[Yoda]

Yoda and Sleuthers....this is TOTALLY O/T...but.....

I was giggling one time with DH that "Yoda speak" (Yodish) reminded me of Shakespeare, so I googled to see if there was any connection between the two.

Sure enough, I was not the first to find a correlation. If you go to:
Prestwick Cafe: Monday, December 14, 2009 lain English: "How Yoda Helps Students Master Shakespeare", you will find an article describing how "The speech patterns of Yoda the Jedi Master can help students get past the biggest obstacle in studying Shakespeare: the syntax."

Yoda uses inverted syntax similar to Shakespeare, Homer, and the King James Version of the Bible!

You will even find a picture of Yoda on this article which is very similar to your avatar!

An interesting article, I found this! :wink:

Jedi, shakespear was. Be clouded with unnecessary words a jedi's mind can not. Some of the wisest of this species, the humans on websleuths are. Me hope for the future of the human race they give. With you, may the force be and keep sleuthing.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Jedi, shakespear was. Be clouded with unnecessary words a jedi's mind can not. Some of the wisest of this species, the humans on websleuths are. Me hope for the future of the human race they give. With you, may the force be and keep sleuthing.

Wow! So poetic, Yoda!
Yes, these Websleuthers are so wise and dedicated!
May the force be with you, too!
And may the force help us to bring little Ayla, and all the missing children/people home! :seeya:

 

[Yoda]

Yes. Excellent point. In this day and technology you would think they could be more advanced with technology. Like an eye scan or something. lol

They probably do, or have an idea how to, but unfortunately developers realize there is no money behind building it. Jmo. Think of how easy it would be to create one database for all criminal records, missing people, etc. But the agencies that wouldn't want to give up control and amount of money each individual/state/city government would need to have a 'special committee' to look into the software, buy new equipment, rewire buildings, go on retreats with other agencies, and on and on. And I am being sarcastic because NONE of that would be needed! It really ticks me off that it has become this bad. Moooooooooooo

 

[Yoda]

:great: thank you!
:innocent: but, i googled YODA translator:innocent:

I'm hoping for more info to be release because this thread is slowing down and I don't want Ayla to be lost in the old threads like so many others.

Wow! So poetic, Yoda!
Yes, these Websleuthers are so wise and dedicated!
May the force be with you, too!
And may the force help us to bring little Ayla, and all the missing children/people home! :seeya:

 

[Kiln Wood]

Ayla's mom is extremely distraught... what you see in the media is 6 minutes of somewhat composure and not the 16 hours of extreme fear she is enduring...yet, through it all she picks herself back up with hope.

BBM

May I respectfully inquire if you know TR personally? If not, what is the link to MSM that is reporting her "extreme fear?"

 

[katydid23]

I think, IIRC, that Lavanda has been working with TR in the role of a victim's advocate. Correct me if I am wrong.

 

[HiHater]

BBM

May I respectfully inquire if you know TR personally? If not, what is the link to MSM that is reporting her "extreme fear?"

I'd like to know if that is first hand info as well, because "fear" is not what I've seen in any interview---and I think she should try to convey something besides what she is. Just reading the comments out there, many people seem to think she's way too composed or calm.

(NOT bashing her, idk how I'd act if one of my kids were gone. I could be really distraught, or I could be cool and calm. I surprise myself sometimes)

 

[Kiln Wood]

I think, IIRC, that Lavanda has been working with TR in the role of a victim's advocate. Correct me if I am wrong.

Has "Lavanda" been identified in MSM as a "victim's advocate?" How is anyone to know this for a fact if such a role has not been disclosed in MSM--or by a WS moderator?

 

[my_tee_mouse]

I think, IIRC, that Lavanda has been working with TR in the role of a victim's advocate. Correct me if I am wrong.

It is unethical for advocates to discuss their clients/consumers.

 

[Kiln Wood]

Now, that is interesting. That response tells me they have a very good idea of what happened or who did it. Not releasing calls is getting common. Wouldn't want people to know who the perp is....can't have that. Defense attorneys will get all over them for causing public outrage on their clients. I'm sick of it. I'm tired of it and I'm disgusted by what has happened to our Law Enforcement Agencies. Defense Attorneys have caused all this. Our children are being found...and perps are getting away with murder..all because some people are SO very worried that the perp's rights might be violated...grrrr.

When it comes to missing children, there should be nothing held back. Le should be able to talk to them in any way that can elicit a response and find the baby. This carp has gone too far. Something needs to be done.

BBM

When I read this post, I was reminded that we are discussing LE in the United States of America; it is because of such "talk" that we now have the laws and protections we do have--to safeguard the rights of anyone who is questioned by LE (even those who will ultimately found to be "perps"). Don't get me wrong because I personally am alive today ONLY because of LE intervention: I support LE!

There have been far too many people in the U.S. convicted--and even executed--for crimes they did not commit for me to buy into any scenario that would "elicit a response."

"Something needs to be done" means.....?

There is the possibility that no one present in that house that night/early morning has a clue as to where Ayla may be found; I am not saying this is the situation, but I am offering it for speculation.

I remain hopeful that eventually Ayla will be found alive. I do realize that I am in the distinct minority for holding this viewpoint on Ayla's threads, but I'm valiantly attempting to remain open minded and explore all possibilities.

 

[Kiln Wood]

Good Morning Everyone !

Your post gave me some ideas and questions ... so jumping off it here :


LE had the DiP's home sealed off for 2 weeks ... which seems like a long time IMO ...

Does anyone know what would be the "average" amount of time LE would keep a home sealed off, when a child is "reported" to have been taken by an "intruder" ?


Also ... 2 of the State's prosecutors showed up during the investigation when the CSI Team was at the DiP home [ not sure what their correct "title" is in Maine ] ...

Does anyone know IF this is "normal" ?

I don't recall the State's prosecutors showing up in some other cases when the house was sealed off -- maybe they did show up and I missed it ...

But a recent example I was thinking of was the Baby Lisa case -- I don't remember seeing anything in the MSM about the prosecutors "showing up at the house" when the CSI Team was there -- maybe they did and I missed it ...


I do believe LE knows something as to what REALLY happened in that house ... JMO but they need to find Lisa ... and I do NOT believe that she is being held by someone somewhere ...

TIA !

BBM

Do you mean "Lisa" or Ayla or "Lisa" and Ayla? When you say "I do NOT believe that she is being held by someone somewhere..." do you mean Lisa or Ayla?

 

[tamild]

Looking at the Reynold's timeline (I know :deadhorse I can't help but notice that only one of Trista's post-rehab visits is accounted for. Trista stated in an interview that she saw Ayla twice after rehab; once being November 21 (specialist visit) and the other being about two and a half weeks after rehab. There is nothing to indicate that Trista was present for the ER visit on November 5th, especially since the timeline states "Later it was reported that Ayla's left forearm was broken..."

If Trista did not go to the ER, then there had to be another visit somewhere. Trista stated in an interview that she had been in Ayla's room before. I'm wondering if this is the missing visit. Did Trista visit the Dipietro house to see Ayla and have a look around to be sure that the place was clean, safe, etc? Anyone care to speculate?

 

[dog.gone.cute]

BBM

Do you mean "Lisa" or Ayla or "Lisa" and Ayla? When you say "I do NOT believe that she is being held by someone somewhere..." do you mean Lisa or Ayla?

Ooops ... I am sorry about that -- I meant Ayla ... will correct my post.

I am following both cases ... Thank You !

:seeya:

And yes -- I do not believe that Ayla is being held by "someone somewhere".

MOO ...

 

[naturallyme]

Looking at the Reynold's timeline (I know :deadhorse I can't help but notice that only one of Trista's post-rehab visits is accounted for. Trista stated in an interview that she saw Ayla twice after rehab; once being November 21 (specialist visit) and the other being about two and a half weeks after rehab. There is nothing to indicate that Trista was present for the ER visit on November 5th, especially since the timeline states "Later it was reported that Ayla's left forearm was broken..."

If Trista did not go to the ER, then there had to be another visit somewhere. Trista stated in an interview that she had been in Ayla's room before. I'm wondering if this is the missing visit. Did Trista visit the Dipietro house to see Ayla and have a look around to be sure that the place was clean, safe, etc? Anyone care to speculate?

If there were 2 visits it would have occurred before November 21, 2011 when Trista went with Ayla and Justin to a doctor’s appointment with her bone specialist, that was the last time Trista, Ronnie, and Becca saw Ayla.

I looked and can't find the interview where she said 2 visits, but not doubting that she did say that.

If, I had been in her situation, yes I would have looked around for the conditions of the environment my child was in.

I don't think she was scoping out the house to go in and take her child. At the beginning of Ayla's disappearance, I looked at that as an option. I even considered the first day or two the child getting out the door on her own. After looking at all reports though they don't point to that being what happened.

I don't think that Ayla was in a perfectly ideal situation before the custody change. I have cringed at a few things that Trisa has said. One of those was that she told Ayla all her problems and deep dark secrets. A 20 month old doesn't need that IMO. However that being said, I don't think Trista was involved in Ayla's disappearance, other than she had to go to rehab.

JMO

 

[CincinnatiKate]

I personally am thankful for the post above by *kiln wood. I do not agree with the idea that LE can lie, cheat, steal, burn or beat info out of a parent of a missing child. I also have remained silent in other threads about LE being able to search with no search warrant because the victim is a child. We have to protect the rights of the innocent-- I want these children to be found, or saved, really I do. But I will not forgo my rights.

The question (other thread) was posed--- If LE knocks on your door asking to search my property for a missing child, wouldn't you allow them full access with out a warrant if you were not involved?

--I was the only one who said no. I would perform my OWN search and report it to LE. I know I am in the minority here.

 

[concentric]

I apologize in advance for not being able to read the research, reading and writing you all have done in this case. We all have multiple responsibilities to attend to. I just have a question regarding the dream I had:

Do you think a drug dealer took the baby in payment for a debt, to sell her?

 

[tamild]

If there were 2 visits it would have occurred before November 21, 2011 when Trista went with Ayla and Justin to a doctor’s appointment with her bone specialist, that was the last time Trista, Ronnie, and Becca saw Ayla.

I looked and can't find the interview where she said 2 visits, but not doubting that she did say that.

If, I had been in her situation, yes I would have looked around for the conditions of the environment my child was in.

I don't think she was scoping out the house to go in and take her child. At the beginning of Ayla's disappearance, I looked at that as an option. I even considered the first day or two the child getting out the door on her own. After looking at all reports though they don't point to that being what happened.

I don't think that Ayla was in a perfectly ideal situation before the custody change. I have cringed at a few things that Trisa has said. One of those was that she told Ayla all her problems and deep dark secrets. A 20 month old doesn't need that IMO. However that being said, I don't think Trista was involved in Ayla's disappearance, other than she had to go to rehab.

JMO

Thanks for your reply! Here is the quote I was referring to from the Today Show:

Q: Other reports suggest that CPS gave Justin temporary custody of Ayla. I don't think you agree with that. But, after you got out of rehab, a month went by where you never saw Ayla, why?
TR: No, I had went like two and a half weeks without seeing her when I first got out of rehab, and then after, um, like the first week of November, I didn't see her again until the 21st of November. And then after the 21st of November I did not see her again.

I wasn't implying that Trista was casing the joint LOL I don't even know if she was at the house at this particular time. I'm trying to figure out where the visit was and why they chose not to include it in their version of events.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

:great: thank you!
:innocent: but, i googled YODA translator:innocent:

I'm hoping for more info to be release because this thread is slowing down and I don't want Ayla to be lost in the old threads like so many others.

Soooo cool....I didn't know there was a YODA translator on the computer. I am going to have to look that up!

And....yes....I, too, am disappointed that this thread is winding down. I keep checking in to see if any new info. is bought in because it is disheartening to think of this going to the cold case files! :banghead:

 

[Donjeta]

I've no idea about the timing of the visits but could Trista have seen Phoebe's house when she was involved with Justin at the time she got pregnant with Ayla?

When did she get out of rehab?