ME ME - Ayla Reynolds, 20 mnths, Waterville, 17 December 2011 - # 8

[Lavanda Dolce]

You're wrong, because they have done that on at least two occasions. I'll find you links then Edit to add

Naturallyme already found them. My point was you were adding to my post by stating that I insinuated or felt DHHS should give "detailed information" and I never stated that.

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

BBM

I thought Trista wanted Justin to move in with his mother? :waitasec: Let me see if I can find an MSM source.

ETA:

http://www.wmtw.com/video/30033639/detail.html


Reporter: From the kitchen table at her fathers house in Portland, TR says she hasn't slept since the call on Saturday, that her 20 month old baby named Ayla was missing from a Waterville home where she stayed with the father, JD. Reynolds says the couple, who were never married, had no legal custody arrangement, but they did have an agreement. Including around the time Trista was in rehab.
TR: The agreement was, was that if he took Ayla, if I let him take care of Ayla for the time being, for me to get back on my feet, he had to live with his mother because I thought it would have been the safest place for her to be. And..I was wrong.

Correct. Safest place to be other than the house in Portland where he was living.

 

[HiHater]

Naturallyme already found them. My point was you were adding to my post by stating that I insinuated or felt DHHS should give "detailed information" and I never stated that.

I did not purposely add to your post. When you said they hadn't made a statement, I had no idea that you were unaware of even the general statements they made. Therefore, I assumed you wanted more.

No harm, no foul.

 

[tamild]

Correct. Safest place to be other than the house in Portland where he was living.

Thank you, as always, Lavanda You've been a great help in answering questions throughout this case. Do you happen to know if the agreement that Trista was speaking about in this interview is the same agreement that was made during the Family Team Meeting, or is she was referencing a subsequent agreement? It's not a huge deal either way, just satisfying my own curiosity. Thanks!

 

[tlcya]

my perception is that Trista is hiding behind nothing and no one. Not sure why anyone has the impression she is hiding anything. From day one, she has made statements about the reasons for Ayla's stay with Justin. Those statements certainly did not put her in a flattering light (rehab) but she made them despite the fact that it immediately caused some to write her off as an unfit mother.

I am not sure how that is hiding.

 

[naturallyme]

Thank you naturallyme. I did not see that and I am now glad to see that they came forward with a statement. I found it extremely odd that they did not. Naturally this does not give the public any info....nor should it. They will respond in accordance with whatever may transpire down the road. For now...full concentration is and always has been on finding Ayla, contrary to what others may think about TR.

Did you notice in the statement the word If very carefully worded. They did not say they did a background check. They are aware many people in the public read quickly and look for only what they want to see, instead of what is really being said or not being said.

"If we are placing a child with someone we do background checks and we do a home study," said Therese Cahill-Low, director of the Office of Child and Family Services.

 

[ThoughtFox]

Apparently DHHS does speak out---sort of----at least enough to try and persuade the public they are innocent.

See their response below

A DHHS official would not comment on Ayla's case Monday, citing the department's strict confidentiality rules, but confirmed the agency's policies before placing a minor in a person's care.

"If we are placing a child with someone we do background checks and we do a home study," said Therese Cahill-Low, director of the Office of Child and Family Services.

Citing confidentiality rules, Cahill-Low also would not confirm whether DHHS was even working with Ayla's parents.

http://portlanddailysun.me/node/32254/

According to Trista they did not do this study even though 2 attorneys were present when it was promised. DHHS can't talk about a specific case, but they can make a blanket statement proclaiming their innocence, then hide behind privacy laws to make it difficult for the public to learn what really happens.

To me, that's what Woodward and Bernstein would call a "non-denial denial." Or maybe it's just silence speaking louder than words.

They won't deny that they were working with Ayla's parents, but they also won't confirm it.

So why are they even talking about it? In feeling they have to sidestep the question, they are actually confirming that they are involved. By citing privacy laws, they are covering their arses.

Basically DHHS has never denied anything Trista has said about them. Zero. Zip. That speaks volumes. They know they are culpable for placing Ayla with Justin, and if there was no investigation into her new homelife with the DiPietros it is on them, not Trista.

 

[ThoughtFox]

Did you notice in the statement the word If very carefully worded. They did not say they did a background check. They are aware many people in the public read quickly and look for only what they want to see, instead of what is really being said or not being said.

"If we are placing a child with someone we do background checks and we do a home study," said Therese Cahill-Low, director of the Office of Child and Family Services.

Precisely. They know exactly how and why this was bungled.

Their lawyers are telling them to clam up and avoid doing anymore damage. State workers can only talk to the press with permission, and their jobs are on the line if they say too much. This is about all we will get out of them, but it's trying to put the blame back on Justin as the father, saying their hands were tied.

However, they never confirm that they did a home study or background checks. They are just using that as a vague example not specific to this case.

Nowhere do they deny what Trista has said about how any of this went down. That's the important thing.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

my perception is that Trista is hiding behind nothing and no one. Not sure why anyone has the impression she is hiding anything. From day one, she has made statements about the reasons for Ayla's stay with Justin. Those statements certainly did not put her in a flattering light (rehab) but she made them despite the fact that it immediately caused some to write her off as an unfit mother.

I am not sure how that is hiding.

BBM: I totally agree !

JMO, but Trista has been "open and honest" about her "issues" ... while she may not be the "MOTY", I do NOT believe she had anything to do with Ayla being "missing" ...

Ayla went "missing" because of Justin D ... and there are 3 other people who know what happened to Ayla :

PD -- ED -- CR ... and this is where the FOCUS needs to be ... NOT Trista ...

MOO ...

 

[C-Squared]

Employed, he could have gotten his own place that was suitable for a child. Mom's basement is just temporary.

But then so was Ayla's stay with him.

Would that we could all get an apartment by ourselves just because we are gainfully employed. I live in Portland, Maine and believe me, it isn't as easy as it may sound. The places that JD may have been able to afford on just his income would certainly not be fit for a child either. JMO

I am not making excuses for him but I don't think "where" he was living is the issue. IF he is responsible for Ayla's disappearance, it would have happened no matter where he was living. I was merely responding to a post that asked "Why is an unemployed man living in his mom's basement better off regarding custody than an employed man living somewhere else?"

 

[pistolina]

We have Gerber Life Insurance plans for both girls. Hubby got them after baby #2 was born. I pay $13 a month total for both girls – 10K policies each. We are on a tight budget right now with both girls in daycare and his thought was that while we can not afford to start a college fund, we could do this. After 18 or 21 (not sure of the age – I would have to pull the policies) both policies can be cashed in and all the premiums we have paid will be paid to them. And yes we have savings accounts and 521 plans for both girls as well. If you have any questions on these kinds of polices let me know. I will bring it into work with me tomorrow.

 

[Donjeta]

Would that we could all get an apartment by ourselves just because we are gainfully employed. I live in Portland, Maine and believe me, it isn't as easy as it may sound. The places that JD may have been able to afford on just his income would certainly not be fit for a child either. JMO

I am not making excuses for him but I don't think "where" he was living is the issue. IF he is responsible for Ayla's disappearance, it would have happened no matter where he was living. I was merely responding to a post that asked "Why is an unemployed man living in his mom's basement better off regarding custody than an employed man living somewhere else?"

I expect it was because he used to live amid a constant party and it was thought that Mom would take care of Ayla being fed and clothed and bathed.

If he had to quit his job, give up his income, leave his home, move into Mom's basement a distance away from his girlfriend to have Ayla it sounds like a step backwards to me (from an average young man's perspective) and I could see it causing a lot of resentment that could have been taken out on Ayla.

 

[cluciano63]

I would imagine his romantic relationship suffered, or changed, when he had to move and resettle at Mom's, with a baby to care for, all of a sudden. JMO

 

[HiHater]

DHHS Statements thus Far

"If we are placing a child with someone we do background checks and we do a home study," said Therese Cahill-Low, director of the Office of Child and Family Services.

She explained that just because a case worker may be called to make an assessment of a situation involving a minor, it does not mean that the agency has an active and ongoing case with the family.

"Sometimes we get called in and we might assess the situation and … come up with some unsubstantiated assessment," she said. "So we could walk into someone's house and not be involved, necessarily, with that family."

http://portlanddailysun.me/node/32254/

Therese Cahill-Low, director of the DHHS Office of Child and Family Services, could not comment on the case of Ayla Reynolds or even confirm any involvement DHHS has had with her. But she did say the department’s authority is limited whenever a biological parent wants custody of a child who is staying with extended family members, as was the case with Ayla in October.

“A parent has legal rights to their child unless they have an unsafe child protection background,” said Cahill-Low. “Then it’s the parent’s responsibility to make sure the child is safe.”

http://bangordailynews.com/2012/02/...oing-on-offensive-in-search-for-missing-girl/

…the director of the Office of Child and Family Services says if a biological parent wants custody of a child, the Department will do a background check on that parent. If the parent passes the background check, the Department typically won't check on the child again unless someone warns that the child might be in danger. The Department maintains that it is a parent's right to have custody of his or her own child.

http://www.wgme.com/news/top-stories/stories/wgme_vid_10867.shtml

Citing privacy reasons, a DHHS spokesman would not comment on the case, but the director of the Office of Child and Family Services spoke about their policy, saying "We have to have a report. Somebody has to let us know that there are specific concerns that rise to the level of us being involved."

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/30459712/detail.html#ixzz1mZigKed8

 

[cluciano63]

LE may not be confirming statements made by Trista, but I notice that they are not refuting them either...

 

[Dionysia]

Have we determined whether Justin bought a policy for Ayla with him as beneficiary (i.e., he dies, she gets money) or for himself with Ayla as beneficiary (i.e., she dies, he gets money)? I'm seeing conflicting reports.

 

[deoneta]

Have we determined whether Justin bought a policy for Ayla with him as beneficiary (i.e., he dies, she gets money) or for himself with Ayla as beneficiary (i.e., she dies, he gets money)? I'm seeing conflicting reports.

TR says law enforcement sources have told her JD bought a $25,000 policy on Ayla, naming himself beneficiary. LE neither confirms nor denies that statement. ALL MOO

 

[tehcloser]

WATERVILLE, Maine — The grandfather of a toddler who went missing two months ago in Maine is challenging the girl’s father to explain what happened to the youngster.



http://bangordailynews.com/2012/02/...nges-father-of-missing-toddler-ayla-reynolds/

 

[tlcya]

Have we determined whether Justin bought a policy for Ayla with him as beneficiary (i.e., he dies, she gets money) or for himself with Ayla as beneficiary (i.e., she dies, he gets money)? I'm seeing conflicting reports.

Certain commentors and bloggers have stated that JD purchased a policy on Ayla and one on himself naming her beneficiary. I have seen no confirmation in MSM as to exactly what, if any, insurance policies were purchased. To my knowledge, we have Trista's word about the policy on Ayla and no confirmation that it or any other were taken out from LE.

 

[titanfan62702]

Have we determined whether Justin bought a policy for Ayla with him as beneficiary (i.e., he dies, she gets money) or for himself with Ayla as beneficiary (i.e., she dies, he gets money)? I'm seeing conflicting reports.

Think it's the other way -- the beneficiary gets the money.