ME ME - Ayla Reynolds, 20 mnths, Waterville, 17 December 2011 - # 8

[mrsu]

So with the new 2am sighting in Portland:

We know he was moving stuff out of his apartment on the 15th. If he was spotted at 2am on the Thursday the 15th, does this also then mean he was there on Wednesday the 14th. As 2am the 15th would be shortly after midnight on Wednesday. So did he spend the night the day before he was moving his stuff? Or was this reported wrong and he was in Portland the day of the 15th and the 2am sighting was actually very early the morning of the 16th. Either way, we have heard Ayla was not with him in Portland. The obvious question is where was she? Was PD working that day? Does ED work? Does her daughter go to daycare? Was CR watching Ayla that day?

In regards to the cast and the pajamas. I'm not sure what type of sling her arm had to be in? Maybe the break wasn't enough to need an actual cast and her arm was just in a sling? This happened to my daughter and she wore long sleeves just fine. We just had to be really careful when we put the clothes on. She had a sling similar to this, which we were told to take off at night so she didn't strangle herself.

<modsnip>

I appreciate all the links regarding the blood. I'm not entirely convinced yet. We've heard it was more than a cut and we've heard "some" of it was hers. Hearing that, my biggest question is...well whose was the rest? I think any blood found would be troubling, but for some reason I am just not entirely convinced there was enough blood to indicate a "crime scene". If that were the case, wouldn't there be more the LE could do? I don't know, I'm asking a hypothetical question.

 

[Sparklin]

If we're talking about the bone specialist appointment, Trista said it was on Friday the 16th.
http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/45775493#45775493

and wasn't an excuse given by AH or the sil of rmt that he missed the appointment because he was out too late the night before? If he told Trista 'no' on Thursday, maybe he knew it would be a late night....or maybe he still had every intention of taking her but didn't want Trista to know.

 

[Beagle]

These cases are driving me mad and doing my head in..... how is it so many can disappear with no one being held accountable.

I wish there was a way of putting all concern in a lock down situation (not real prison), but where there life could be hindered until the truth came out.

I know for myself it wouldn't bother me because I would want to be close to the investigation and would want my child found and would do anything to achieve that ..... but at least those that are hiding and don't really care would not be able to "just go on with life like nothing had happened"

Sorry just venting I usually don't say much, but enough is enough. These kids didn't ask to be brought into this world but they are and then shown no respect but treated more like a throw away toy.

End of rant ......:banghead:

 

[HiHater]

So with the new 2am sighting in Portland:


I appreciate all the links regarding the blood. I'm not entirely convinced yet. We've heard it was more than a cut and we've heard "some" of it was hers. Hearing that, my biggest question is...well whose was the rest? I think any blood found would be troubling, but for some reason I am just not entirely convinced there was enough blood to indicate a "crime scene". If that were the case, wouldn't there be more the LE could do? I don't know, I'm asking a hypothetical question.

Respectfully snipped by me...and what a precious baby girl!

A lot of what happens after evidence is gathered depends on the prosecutor/district attorney. The blood evidence may turn out to play a smaller role than some people think.

Around the 6th day of the search for Ayla, the top homicide prosecutors in Maine visited the crime scene. It is very likely that they saw the blood evidence---as well as other items---at that time. If there was something to indicate a homicide (such as a large amount of blood), I think arrests would have already been made. JMO It would take a relatively small amount of blood for a kid to bleed out or be fatally injured, at least when compared to an adult. I think if there was evidence of either of those things, LE wouldn't be playing cat and mouse with JD right now...

 

[Caligram]

OOh no! Here we go again with the "ping thing". If JD was really in Portland while talking to TR and pretending he was at his mother's house..... There has to be some things JD tripped up on, I hope. I continue to believe that Ayla was "gone" before the December 15th appointment with the bone specialist.
Since it's highly unlikely that every person that JD knew would lie to protect him, I wonder if the guys in the appartment have given statements to LE. I find it highly unlikely that it was coincidental that CR lived across the street from JD's "roommates". Makes me believe that the guys place was a coverup for where JD really was sleeping. Must have been pretty crowded in an apartment with so many males living there, and why would they let JD freeload.

Too many
doubts, too many unanswered questions. What troubles me though is that as soon as LE names a POI, JD will be even more silent, plus he will be hiding behind the shirts of his newly hired defense attorney.

I don't know what the implications are of PD and ED sporting a defense attorney. Now they also get away with not responding to LE's questions.

I hate where my thoughts keep going here, thinking of silent smirking people who get away with murder. It's just not right, and I don't have the patience to wait to see if Karma works when justice fails.

IMHO

 

[HiHater]

OOh no! Here we go again with the "ping thing". If JD was really in Portland while talking to TR and pretending he was at his mother's house..... There has to be some things JD tripped up on, I hope. I continue to believe that Ayla was "gone" before the December 15th appointment with the bone specialist.
Since it's highly unlikely that every person that JD knew would lie to protect him, I wonder if the guys in the appartment have given statements to LE. I find it highly unlikely that it was coincidental that CR lived across the street from JD's "roommates". Makes me believe that the guys place was a coverup for where JD really was sleeping. Must have been pretty crowded in an apartment with so many males living there, and why would they let JD freeload.

Too many
doubts, too many unanswered questions. What troubles me though is that as soon as LE names a POI, JD will be even more silent, plus he will be hiding behind the shirts of his newly hired defense attorney.

I don't know what the implications are of PD and ED sporting a defense attorney. Now they also get away with not responding to LE's questions.

I hate where my thoughts keep going here, thinking of silent smirking people who get away with murder. It's just not right, and I don't have the patience to wait to see if Karma works when justice fails.

IMHO

BBM How does anyone know how he paid his bills or that he did not?

 

[mrsu]

OOh no! Here we go again with the "ping thing". If JD was really in Portland while talking to TR and pretending he was at his mother's house..... There has to be some things JD tripped up on, I hope. I continue to believe that Ayla was "gone" before the December 15th appointment with the bone specialist.
Since it's highly unlikely that every person that JD knew would lie to protect him, I wonder if the guys in the appartment have given statements to LE. I find it highly unlikely that it was coincidental that CR lived across the street from JD's "roommates". Makes me believe that the guys place was a coverup for where JD really was sleeping. Must have been pretty crowded in an apartment with so many males living there, and why would they let JD freeload.

Too many
doubts, too many unanswered questions. What troubles me though is that as soon as LE names a POI, JD will be even more silent, plus he will be hiding behind the shirts of his newly hired defense attorney.

I don't know what the implications are of PD and ED sporting a defense attorney. Now they also get away with not responding to LE's questions.

I hate where my thoughts keep going here, thinking of silent smirking people who get away with murder. It's just not right, and I don't have the patience to wait to see if Karma works when justice fails.

IMHO

What is the ping thing? Did I miss that?

 

[Caligram]

BBM How does anyone know how he paid his bills or that he did not?

One doesn't know anything, because JD remains undefined. It's like he got hold of a magic eraser and cleaned up every little identifying scrap about himself. Sure, he has a right to privacy, but the fact is that JD hides instead of facing accusations that are flying around. I just don't think he was "living" across the street from CR. I know that he would prefer that it not be brought to light now, since her address has been associated with a drug arrest of her sister. TR must have known the truth, and that was why she told JD he had to move to his mommy's house to take care of Ayla. Perhaps JD then complied because there were secrets about his way of life he didn't want exposed. Strange, how JD seems to be a man without a past. No friends coming forth to speak kindly about him, except for that long-time blogger who praised him. He apparently was happy to be missing in Ayla's life, possibly deliberately as it has been reported that he was past due with child support.

I am glad that you asked about how did anyone know if JD paid or didn't pay his bills. If he had been a gainfully employed responsible citizen, I am sure that it would have been thrown out there to prove how wrong everyone was to pick on him. I don't know, because I feel that everything about JD is questionable. He was supposed to be responsible for Ayla's well-being. Where is Ayla? That is why I try to remember to insert IMHO before I post my comments about him.

IMHO

 

[Caligram]

What is the ping thing? Did I miss that?

In a nut-shell: The ping thing is about cell phone pings that may disclose locations of persons being investigated and prove the mis-truths which were stated to LE. Please don't ask me to explain any further about this, 'cause I get it but I am a failure at explaining newfangled things.
We learned here on WS about pings from another case which did not have a happy beginning, and had a shocking wrongful ending. I cannot speak her name because it makes me :furious: :anguish: uke:

IMHO

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

<SNIP> I appreciate all the links regarding the blood. I'm not entirely convinced yet. We've heard it was more than a cut and we've heard "some" of it was hers. Hearing that, my biggest question is...well whose was the rest? I think any blood found would be troubling, but for some reason I am just not entirely convinced there was enough blood to indicate a "crime scene". If that were the case, wouldn't there be more the LE could do? I don't know, I'm asking a hypothetical question.

BBM JMO, but my take on it was that there were many samples of blood, and testing had been completed on some of the samples and they were Ayla's. Testing on the remaining samples hadn't yet been completed, but it appeared to me (reading between the lines) the expectation was that the remaining samples would also be confirmed to be Ayla's. I don't think it was that the remaining blood was someone else's, just that they didn't have the testing back proving it was Ayla's.

 

[hambirg]

When did JD supposedly move to Waterville with Ayla? Why is he clearing out his things from Portland in the middle of Dec.? Was he paid through the end of Dec.?

 

[MagnoliaMom]

I was thinking about when I broke my ankle. It was healed in 6 weeks. If Ayla's arm was broken on Nov. 4 (taken to ER on Nov. 5) she should have been fully healed by the Dec. 16th appointment. That would be 6 weeks exactly from the ER visit. So this basically should have been a wellness check and release visit. Maybe JD didn't think this appointment was important and removed the soft cast. I've known people to cut their own hard casts off. She shouldn't have had any trouble getting in those pajamas if he had taken the cast off and her arm was healed.

http://www.doctorsecrets.com/your-bones/time-to-heal-broken-bone.htm
Time for bones to heal:

Lower arm (radius,ulna) 6 weeks

On another note, there has been some mention about JD not taking Ayla for her booster shots. I don't have a link. I have just seen it mentioned in the thread somewhere. I know a woman who was contacted by DHHS regarding this and told if she did not get there pronto they would be investigating. She was getting the vaccinations through the health department and maybe they are more thorough than a private doctor. Does anyone know if all doctors and agencies report quickly regarding vaccinations?

If she was passed off to someone (which would be my hope though I don't feel a lot of hope at this point), could she be tracked through vaccination records at some point? You can't go to school without them.

 

[NFYIAMY]

It was reported weeks ago - that Ayla's 'soft cast' was more of an ace bandage type thing.

I'll try and go find the link or video if I have time - but am preparing for my mom's 85th birthday party today - so not sure when I'll get to it. Maybe someone else will remember this? (I kind of think it was in the interview video that Justin did?)

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

Sometimes I do feel like Ayla wasn't in the home that night, as it never made sense to me that she would have been left alone, injured as she was, so separate from where everyone else was sleeping. That almost seems too heartless to be true, almost as though they had to say she was alone to explain how she could have been "kidnapped." I mean, other than just plain being cruel, why would Ayla have been left alone, on another floor, while the other children were tucked up with their parents? JMO

According to earlier reports, Ayla and ED's child were both in the same bedroom. Then ED took her child sometime during the night as she was fussy. Hence that left Ayla alone. At least that is my recollection. What I don't understand is why would two adults who more than likely had plans of having mattress aerobics bring a child into the area with them? (CR's child with JD and CR) ??? That is bothersome in more ways than one. Unless of course it was "just to sleep"...all of them...but considering all were in their early and mid 20's...I kind of doubt it.

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

So with the new 2am sighting in Portland:

We know he was moving stuff out of his apartment on the 15th. If he was spotted at 2am on the Thursday the 15th, does this also then mean he was there on Wednesday the 14th. As 2am the 15th would be shortly after midnight on Wednesday. So did he spend the night the day before he was moving his stuff? Or was this reported wrong and he was in Portland the day of the 15th and the 2am sighting was actually very early the morning of the 16th. Either way, we have heard Ayla was not with him in Portland. The obvious question is where was she? Was PD working that day? Does ED work? Does her daughter go to daycare? Was CR watching Ayla that day?

In regards to the cast and the pajamas. I'm not sure what type of sling her arm had to be in? Maybe the break wasn't enough to need an actual cast and her arm was just in a sling? This happened to my daughter and she wore long sleeves just fine. We just had to be really careful when we put the clothes on. She had a sling similar to this, which we were told to take off at night so she didn't strangle herself.

<modsnip>

I appreciate all the links regarding the blood. I'm not entirely convinced yet. We've heard it was more than a cut and we've heard "some" of it was hers. Hearing that, my biggest question is...well whose was the rest? I think any blood found would be troubling, but for some reason I am just not entirely convinced there was enough blood to indicate a "crime scene". If that were the case, wouldn't there be more the LE could do? I don't know, I'm asking a hypothetical question.

The child you show pictured has a regular cast...not a soft cast.
Here is a soft cast and I added the description. The very same cast I had shortly after Ayla went missing:

I also recall reading somewhere that Ayla would take off the ace bandage...or try. With mine, knowing I had to wear for three weeks and not remove it , and bathe with plastic bag, I put a black microsoft knee high to cover the ace bandage to keep clean. Because my ulnar nerve was moved, my cast was a nonbend type..arm straight out, but is a soft cast.

Here is mine:

Also note, the follow up appt may have been to determine if healing was proper and if a soft cast was doing the proper "work" and/or if a hard cast needed to be placed. I still do not believe in those pajamas that they unwound and removed all, put on the pj's and then applied all on top. For one, they were probably told the same as anyone else...a soft cast is not to be removed and cover with a plastic bag when bathing.

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

I was thinking about when I broke my ankle. It was healed in 6 weeks. If Ayla's arm was broken on Nov. 4 (taken to ER on Nov. 5) she should have been fully healed by the Dec. 16th appointment. That would be 6 weeks exactly from the ER visit. So this basically should have been a wellness check and release visit. Maybe JD didn't think this appointment was important and removed the soft cast. I've known people to cut their own hard casts off. She shouldn't have had any trouble getting in those pajamas if he had taken the cast off and her arm was healed.

http://www.doctorsecrets.com/your-bones/time-to-heal-broken-bone.htm
Time for bones to heal:

Why did he report she had ON a soft cast? If he removed it on his own then why tell the police to look for a child with a cast on? I do not buy that he took it off, put on those long sleeve pajamas and then applied the soft cast on top. I can assure you that it would NOT have fit underneath....For that matter a soft cast would not have fit in the sleeve at all even if they cut it to make it short sleeve. She would have had to wear stretchy short sleeve, larger tshirts to sleep in or things of that nature. Not those pajamas. In the end, I believe we will find out that IF she had on those pajamas...she did not have her soft cast on.

 

[Sparklin]

OOh no! Here we go again with the "ping thing". If JD was really in Portland while talking to TR and pretending he was at his mother's house..... There has to be some things JD tripped up on, I hope. I continue to believe that Ayla was "gone" before the December 15th appointment with the bone specialist.
Since it's highly unlikely that every person that JD knew would lie to protect him, I wonder if the guys in the appartment have given statements to LE. I find it highly unlikely that it was coincidental that CR lived across the street from JD's "roommates". Makes me believe that the guys place was a coverup for where JD really was sleeping. Must have been pretty crowded in an apartment with so many males living there, and why would they let JD freeload.

Too many
doubts, too many unanswered questions. What troubles me though is that as soon as LE names a POI, JD will be even more silent, plus he will be hiding behind the shirts of his newly hired defense attorney.

I don't know what the implications are of PD and ED sporting a defense attorney. Now they also get away with not responding to LE's questions.

I hate where my thoughts keep going here, thinking of silent smirking people who get away with murder. It's just not right, and I don't have the patience to wait to see if Karma works when justice fails.

IMHO

Maybe that's how he met CR - because she lived across the street? Since we don't know the size of the apartment, we can't speculate that it was crowded...a three bedroom apartment with three grown men wouldn't be crowded imo - It has been reported that JD had to quit his job to move to his moms so there would be no freeloading. If he was moving his things out of this apartment, obviously he lived there.

 

[Sparklin]

One doesn't know anything, because JD remains undefined. It's like he got hold of a magic eraser and cleaned up every little identifying scrap about himself. Sure, he has a right to privacy, but the fact is that JD hides instead of facing accusations that are flying around. I just don't think he was "living" across the street from CR. I know that he would prefer that it not be brought to light now, since her address has been associated with a drug arrest of her sister. TR must have known the truth, and that was why she told JD he had to move to his mommy's house to take care of Ayla. Perhaps JD then complied because there were secrets about his way of life he didn't want exposed. Strange, how JD seems to be a man without a past. No friends coming forth to speak kindly about him, except for that long-time blogger who praised him. He apparently was happy to be missing in Ayla's life, possibly deliberately as it has been reported that he was past due with child support.

I am glad that you asked about how did anyone know if JD paid or didn't pay his bills. If he had been a gainfully employed responsible citizen, I am sure that it would have been thrown out there to prove how wrong everyone was to pick on him. I don't know, because I feel that everything about JD is questionable. He was supposed to be responsible for Ayla's well-being. Where is Ayla? That is why I try to remember to insert IMHO before I post my comments about him.

IMHO

There is a blogger that is the sister in law of one of his room mates so that is confirmation enough for me...especially since she isn't pro Justins innocence. Also, there have been a ton of friends defending him and telling how much he loved Ayla if you check the facebook pages.

 

[Sparklin]

I was thinking about when I broke my ankle. It was healed in 6 weeks. If Ayla's arm was broken on Nov. 4 (taken to ER on Nov. 5) she should have been fully healed by the Dec. 16th appointment. That would be 6 weeks exactly from the ER visit. So this basically should have been a wellness check and release visit. Maybe JD didn't think this appointment was important and removed the soft cast. I've known people to cut their own hard casts off. She shouldn't have had any trouble getting in those pajamas if he had taken the cast off and her arm was healed.

snipped by me: I agree - and the video of her dancing around the room, while a Christmas cartoon played (Frosty?) has her arm free of any cast or sling and she is moving it freely.

 

[menmo]

Some of the following has been respectfully SBM for space

I am curious about JD's supposed former job as well...if he did work, why has it never come up where, or what he did?

I don't think he had one.......a legal, above the table one anyway.

bbm - Yikes...that just freaked me out a bit, because I've thought about Justin maybe lying to Trista originally and NOT having moved back to moms OR keeping Ayla in Portland. If he left Ayla with his mom in Waterville while he was in Portland all the time, it would explain his excuses to Trista when she called.

This hadn't even crossed my mind but I think you might be on to something! Gives me shivers
Surely LE has been to Justin's old apartment, looking around and all, right? I hope they make a surprise visit soon and start clamping down on everyone affiliated with Justin, Courtney, Elisha, and Phoebe.

So with the new 2am sighting in Portland:
We know he was moving stuff out of his apartment on the 15th.
Either way, we have heard Ayla was not with him in Portland. The obvious question is where was she? Was PD working that day? Does ED work? Does her daughter go to daycare? Was CR watching Ayla that day?

I'm wondering if Justin was actually "moving out" or just moving some of his and his roomies friends things that he didn't want found if someone (LE) came to visit. Why move at 2 a.m.?

but the fact is that JD hides instead of facing accusations that are flying around. I just don't think he was "living" across the street from CR. I know that he would prefer that it not be brought to light now, since her address has been associated with a drug arrest of her sister. TR must have known the truth, and that was why she told JD he had to move to his mommy's house to take care of Ayla.

JD seems to be a man without a past. No friends coming forth to speak kindly about him, except for that long-time blogger who praised him.

I am glad that you asked about how did anyone know if JD paid or didn't pay his bills. If he had been a gainfully employed responsible citizen, I am sure that it would have been thrown out there to prove how wrong everyone was to pick on him.

I, too, have wondered if he was actually "living" across the street from Courtney and her sister.
Yet, even the blogger, AH, says she doesn't actually know him. I think it's her cousins that do. Seriously? So you let someone else decide for you if you think he did it or not? Wow. She needs to get a hold of herself.

I was thinking about when I broke my ankle. It was healed in 6 weeks. If Ayla's arm was broken on Nov. 4 (taken to ER on Nov. 5) she should have been fully healed by the Dec. 16th appointment. That would be 6 weeks exactly from the ER visit. So this basically should have been a wellness check and release visit. Maybe JD didn't think this appointment was important and removed the soft cast. I've known people to cut their own hard casts off. She shouldn't have had any trouble getting in those pajamas if he had taken the cast off and her arm was healed.

I have known people that will remove their own stitches, or even do something like remove the cast after the time it was supposed to have healed, among other things. The bad thing about that in this situation is that this is a young child, and it's quite ignorant in my opinion, to do such a thing on an adult, let alone a child! The doctor is an educated medical professional. The dad or other family that I'm aware of is not. Just because it's supposed to heal in a certain amount of time does not mean it always does! If Justin was doing the thinking and did remove the soft cast, then obviously he didn't need care and control of this beautiful little girl, and he needs to let someone else take over for him on the thinking. This is always a big pet peeve of mine.


MOO