MEDICAL EXAMINER RULES ALEX PRETTI DEATH A HOMICIDE -1 - dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US Jan 24, 2026

[tricia]

Here is a HUGE problem because of AI. AI can clean up a picture beautifully, BUT it can also alter it in ways we can't even begin to tell.
It would be great if we could get a clearer picture of the shooting, but how do we know nothing else in the picture has been altered? Who do we trust to do this type of work? Who do we trust to report on it?

 

[Inthedetails]

Here is a HUGE problem because of AI. AI can clean up a picture beautifully, BUT it can also alter it in ways we can't even begin to tell.
It would be great if we could get a clearer picture of the shooting, but how do we know nothing else in the picture has been altered? Who do we trust to do this type of work? Who do we trust to report on it?

It's why citizen documentation is important. Maybe a video can be altered with AI and fool the eye, but not as easy if there are multiple videos from several cameras, dash cams, ring cameras from different angles.

When people are wondering WHY residents are out there with their cameras, well, here you go. Their videos stand as witness just as they themselves stand as witness.

jmo

 

[kuromiiiilove]

It's why citizen documentation is important. Maybe a video can be altered with AI and fool the eye, but not as easy if there are multiple videos from several cameras, dash cams, ring cameras from different angles.

When people are wondering WHY residents are out there with their cameras, well, here you go. Their videos stand as witness just as they themselves stand as witness.

jmo

this exactly. I’ve said it many times before, but one of the main reasons I hate AI is it dirties the nature of truth and evidence and allows people to fall back on their confirmation biases rather than having to face reality.

Multiple angles, livestreams, and long video are all helpful in these times. I’ve heard AI can’t really produce a consistent video over 20 seconds. So if a video is 5-10 mins long, there’s a good chance it’s real, because AI (at least what us plebs have access to right now) cannot create videos that long.

I believe every AI video needs a watermark that cannot be cropped out or removed, and I believe this should be legislated. Sorry for all those who just make ‘fun’ ai videos, but the people who would distort truth with AI ruined that for them. MOO

 

[AppleTreeGreen]

Thanks @zleuther for letting me know! I would have never had caught that on my own

 

[Friday Fan]

Replying to myself as I think about this.

The shooting of Alex Pretti hits at the core of who we are as a nation: All the branches of the Federal government (executive, judicial, legislative) as laid out in the Constitution, plus State rights, plus individual rights guarenteed in the Bill of Rights.

Overwhelming, tbh.

jmopinion

I do believe they can be simply charged with murder if the state wishes to do. Just because they are federal agents doesn't give them a pass to murder.


Idaho prosecutor praises Ruby Ridge sniper ruling
SANDPOINT, Idaho (CNN) -- The prosecutor who brought a manslaughter charge against the FBI sniper who killed the wife of a white supremacist during the 1992 standoff at Ruby Ridge said Wednesday she believes in "equal justice under the law," including for federal agents.

Denise Woodbury, the former prosecutor for Boundary County, made her comments a day after a federal appeals court ruled that FBI agent Lon Horiuchi can be tried for manslaughter if issues still in dispute can be resolved.

CNN.com - Idaho prosecutor praises Ruby Ridge sniper ruling - June 6, 2001

A new DA was elected and the charges were dropped, Ruby Ridge was a case where excess force was used on someone breaking the law. Ruby Ridge and Waco are similar type instances and it's a question of how much force is acceptable.

In this case, you have Pretti killed for exercising his first amendment rights. Same with Renee Good. Of course they can argue that their protests were annoying and hampered their work just because they were loud and annoying and Alex shouldn't have physically moved and just passively complied when agents accosted him, but the human body reacts to things such as pepper spray with fight or flight reactions. Police brutality increases fight or flight reactions in people who are already nervous. (Think of being pulled over for a minor traffic violation Your heart is pounding. Just imagine if they pulled guns on you, bashed your winds and dragged you out of the car instead of simply writing a ticket. Your body would react to being forcefully pulled out of your vehicle for a minor traffic violation)

 

[Inthedetails]

Not a surprise, but making sure we have the official info on the thread:



Alex Pretti's official manner of death has been ruled a homicide by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner, a report shows.

The 37-year-old nurse's cause of death was "multiple gunshot wounds," according to the report.

The report recorded that Pretti was "shot by law enforcement officer(s)" and died in the emergency room at Hennepin Healthcare.

Minneapolis live updates: County medical examiner lists Pretti's death as homicide

Alex Pretti's official manner of death has been ruled a homicide by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner, a report shows.

abc7news.com

 

[zleuther]

A local reporter interviews the ProPublica reporter...

Her last question was the meat of the interview, but earlier he confirms he spoke with an agent's ex-wife. He also mentions agents (perhaps situationally) are instructed to scrub their online presence which IMO is cautionary (To try to Internet-sleuth a photo or more details carries the likelihood of incorrectly besmirching innocent folks with the same name).

ETA kinda a "What's missing" tutorial if I may...
It's very significant that he spoke to a F&F cuz any reporter would indeed ask "You've seen the videos so you would recognize if that's him. Is it?"

 

[sds71]

I just spoke with @RealTomHoman @ICEDirector @CBPCommissioner
. Effective immediately we are deploying body cameras to every officer in the field in Minneapolis. As funding is available, the body camera program will be expanded nationwide. We will rapidly acquire and deploy body cameras to DHS law enforcement across the country.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2018435428932538861

 

[Charlot123]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2018435428932538861

What about removing their face masks and giving them badges or another form of verification? Any federal agent is expected to show one.

 

[Inthedetails]

I just spoke with @RealTomHoman @ICEDirector @CBPCommissioner
. Effective immediately we are deploying body cameras to every officer in the field in Minneapolis. As funding is available, the body camera program will be expanded nationwide. We will rapidly acquire and deploy body cameras to DHS law enforcement across the country.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2018435428932538861

I'm glad about body cams but with THOUSANDS of agents (including 3,000 sent to Minnesota), I wish taxpayers were as concerned about the cost of this surge as they are about funding science at universities, federal employees, national parks when doge eliminated them to "save money."

jmo

 

[CrimeDawg123]

I'm glad about body cams but with THOUSANDS of agents (including 3,000 sent to Minnesota), I wish taxpayers were as concerned about the cost of this surge as they are about funding science at universities, federal employees, national parks when doge eliminated them to "save money."

jmo

No kidding. It's not just the cost of the cameras, it's the cost of data storage, maintenance, and IT.

 

[tlcya]

No kidding. It's not just the cost of the cameras, it's the cost of data storage, maintenance, and IT.

and there will still be the problem of agents turning them on or off as it suits them. But weren't we already told that the agents who shot AP were wearing body cams and that the footage from those cams has been preserved?

MOO body cam footage is useless if DHS controls who sees it or not. Hoping the Chairman of the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs led by Rand Paul will be seeing the ones worn by Pretti's killers

 

[Inthedetails]

and there will still be the problem of agents turning them on or off as it suits them. But weren't we already told that the agents who shot AP were wearing body cams and that the footage from those cams has been preserved?

MOO body cam footage is useless if DHS controls who sees it or not. Hoping the Chairman of the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs led by Rand Paul will be seeing them.

Good point.

If the agents in the shootings were already wearing body cams, why is this announced as an accountability development?

I'm sick of feeling like we're being played.

jmo

 

[Ruminations]

I did read they were trying to retrieve bullets? Why was someone in that ICE group using non-approved bullets?

If there are a number of bullet wounds in Alex and a greater number of casings, it would be evidence that an additional shot was taken. If there is no casing, stray bullet, or wound found, an agent might not have to admit to that shot ever being taken. We have the videos, but sound bounces, etc.

I would like an expert to evaluate just how reckless this shooting was to others in addition to Alex. It appears to me that a lot of people were right there without ear protection and in ricochet range as two guns we're being unloaded.

Could you imagine working where your partners are armed and can't control their emotions? That 50 k bonus can't be worth knowing that any day you might not come home because your coworkers might shoot you instead of going to get a warrant when the suspect enters private property and locks the door.

MOO

 

[Ruminations]

This is exactly why I want some ICE agents to be called to a court and be compelled to disclose what they were told in their training, formally and informally.

Something tells me the way some ICE agents are acting, the intimidation tactics and the aggression is directly linked to what they were advised to do in their training IMO

This might come out when persons on trial for murder try to get reduced sentences by explaining that their training was a factor in their crimes. Moreso, it will come out in a civil wrongful death case. Lawyers for both the (victim) plaintiff and the defendant who fired a gun will both point their fingers at the training. The plaintiff because the US federal government has bigger pockets than the average federal agent, and the defendant because they would want their trainers to pay as big a fraction of the damages as possible.

MOO

 

[Friday Fan]

Two CBP agents identified in Alex Pretti shooting are from South Texas

Border Patrol agent Jesus Ochoa and Customs and Border Protection officer Raymundo Gutierrez fired on Pretti during a protest in Minneapolis last month, according to government records viewed by ProPublica.

www.ksat.com

Has Minnesota's AG sued to obtain information?
I know. I know. There have been numerous lawsuits to limit DHS's mission, but don't recall if there has been a lawsuit to obtain information.

“DOJ has also blocked prosecutors and agents from cooperating with state law enforcement officials and prevented state officials from accessing evidence,” the letter said.

 

[sds71]

Federal judge lifts order requiring feds to preserve all evidence related to shooting of Alex Pretti by DHS agents. However, St. Paul-based Judge Eric Tostrud (Trump) called 'troubling' early Miller & Noem statements on incident.

Federal agents in Minnesota appear to have mishandled the firearm they grabbed from Alex Pretti’s waistband during last month’s fatal struggle, a judge declared Monday.

But U.S. District Judge Eric Tostrud found that the apparent error — as well as inflammatory statements by the White House and Trump administration officials — was not enough to justify his continued supervision of the handling of evidence from the scene of Pretti’s death in Minneapolis on Jan. 24.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.230788/gov.uscourts.mnd.230788.24.0_2.pdf

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/02/02/minnesota-judge-alex-pretti-gun-00761319?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=dlvr.it

 

[Inthedetails]

Brass Solidarity playing right now as I type this.

They are a group of musicians who, after the George Floyd murder, play every Monday outdoors for the public. In the wake of recent murders of Renee and Alex, their message and music includes their memory too.

I'm watching a livestream on youtube but can't link to non-MSM Mercado Media "Justice for Alex Pretti - Brass Solidarity." But here is an MSM article about the group and weekly event, bbm:


Goldschmidt, a practicing music therapist, says the music isn't just about bringing the mood up in an otherwise depressing environment – it also helps calm people down, at a time when many are angry. Which is especially helpful as local leaders here continue to urge restraint, and President Trump threatens to deploy the military to Minneapolis.

"Street band music has the ability to bring down the temperature in spicy situations on the street during protests," Goldschmidt says.

The band has been playing even as the temperatures have hovered well-below freezing. At one recent event, a trumpet player had icicles forming on the end of his bell, as he blew air through the horn continuously even when he wasn't playing, just to keep it warm.

https://www.npr.org/2026/01/21/nx-s1-5682347/this-local-brass-band-is-part-of-the-soundtrack-of-resistance-in-minneapolis

 

[no nonsense]

Apologies I am having trouble searching while I’m trying to read on my phone. Has anyone posted a copy of the autopsy here yet? If so, can you kindly tell me which Post?

 

[Summerliz03]

Apologies I am having trouble searching while I’m trying to read on my phone. Has anyone posted a copy of the autopsy here yet? If so, can you kindly tell me which Post?

I don’t believe the autopsy has been released. The initial findings of labeling his death a homicide just came out today, a few hours ago. But no autopsy results have been made public.