MEDICAL EXAMINER RULES ALEX PRETTI DEATH A HOMICIDE -1 - dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US Jan 24, 2026

[Mo Thuairim]

Minneapolis man says he was detained for hours after witnessing Alex Pretti shooting​

Minneapolis man says he was detained for hours after witnessing Alex Pretti shooting

New affidavits filed in court detail how witnesses were arrested immediately after the shooting of Alex Pretti.

www.cbsnews.com

Well, there's a bit of dystopian jargon that should chill all Americans: USCs.

New affidavits filed in court detail how witnesses were arrested immediately after the shooting of Alex Pretti.

One of those witnesses, who asked to be called Javier for safety reasons, said he was among dozens of what he overheard agents referring to as "USCs" — United States citizens in custody.

(From above link)

Note: US citizens detained by immigration enforcement agents, not police.

 

[Hexe]

Enforcing the law is a basic responsibility of government. Law enforcement should be able to do its job without outside interference, and protesters shouldn’t be allowed to dictate whether or not the law is enforced. imo

It still does not mean the "interfering" protesters should be executed on the spot.

MOO

 

[jepop]

It still does not mean the "interfering" protesters should be executed on the spot.

MOO

Yes, (of course not one would have added even a year ago, though now basic explanation is required by the looks of things).Summary executions, theoretically and historically speaking, happen in dictatorships and tyrannies. Rules for thee ( the populace,) and rules for me ( govt and its agents,). We'll see just how much over the boundary the US has gone in the next few days. JMO

 

[Marantz4250b]

I've stayed off this thread up to now for various reasons. Neither had I really watched the videos of this incident. I have now, though.

From what I can see this is the clearest case of a blatant, state-sponsored (or at the least state-condoned), extra-judicial execution. Outright murder. Any official (or anyone for that matter) who claims otherwise is either lying or is delusional. It is victim blaming in its most literal sense.

That's not just my opinion; there are a plethora of lawyers putting videos out there saying exactly that. Search Devin Stone's (Legal Eagle) most recent video - my previous post contained a link but I don't think it's allowed so I deleted it - it's shocking.

Stating that the victim was brandishing a firearm is an obvious outright lie. There simply is no other word for it. It's a lie and it's being said by people in high office. That should shock and terrify every US citizen regardless of political persuasion!

The victim in this case was not acting unlawfully in any manner what-so-ever.

He was not carrying an illegal firearm.

He was exercising his first and second amendment rights and the state, through its undertrained rent-a-mob thugs, executed him because they had their precious little egos bent when he came to the aid of a woman they were bullying.

Someone mentioned "domestic terrorism" That's exactly what this is and it's frightening, quite frankly!

As a disclaimer - this post is NOT about political leanings one way or the other. It's about a crime committed by government employees. And all my opinion, obvs.

 

[tlcya]

He had a high caliber weapon, a super duper gun - it was simultaneously the gun being taken and ice shooting, how was ice supposed to know he wasn't reaching for another weapon or the exact one that was being removed from him, they were protecting the ice agents as they should of been - he shouldn't of been fighting w/ICE nor had any weapon to use against ICE <modsnip: Thread is not about immigration policy>

if a regular citizen is held to certain standards by law, such as the fear of imminent danger must be reasonable to use deadly force in the defense of self or others, then trained law enforcement, even federal law enforcement, should be as well.

The agents were the aggressors. The victim did not approach them, they approached and advanced upon him, forcing him back to the curb. They then pushed a woman next to him who was in no way a threat to them, and then proceeded to push him to the ground as he attempted to shield both himself and the woman from their pepper spray.

At no time did Alex Pretti, the victim in this case, brandish a weapon or physically assault any agent, but they continued to escalate the situation by shoving him down on the ground, and then, while he was in their control and custody his firearm was removed from his person and he was shot multiple times from behind. MOO The victim was not the aggressor in this case, the agents, acting in a sort of mob mentality were.

A jury should get to decide if their actions were reasonable and defense of self or others.

The excuse that his weapon (in the hands of a federal agent by that time) may have accidently gone off and scared them in the heat of the moment is a weak one IMO because trained LE should be held to at least the same standards as the citizens they are policing.

 

[Marantz4250b]

The excuse that his weapon (in the hands of a federal agent by that time) may have accidently gone off and scared them in the heat of the moment) is a weak one IMO because trained LE should be held to at least the same standards as the citizens they are policing.

Unfortunately, I think that is the line that they are going to push. Even more unfortunately, the Sig P320 (I think it was) has gained a terrible reputation for firing unintentionally and Sig has issued a recall - which apparently didn't solve the problem. There are videos of them discharging even while holstered!

You can see exactly where this is going, unfortunately

 

[Amonet]

It's taken me about 20 views of the video over 24 hours to work out who's who in the video of the shooting and what's happening.

Today there's a frame analysis on the BBC website and it looks clear. And extremely disturbing. Especially disturbing when considering the statements from the government and POTUS

 

[Oakland CA]

ICE doesn't have the right to murder innocent civilians. <modsnip>

Did I really just watch an ICE guy fire five more bullets into Mr. Pretti after he was already dead or dying and completely immobile on the ground?
This was after the first five shots had seemingly already killed Mr. Pretti and all other ICE guys had walked away from him and there was no one within four or five feet of him.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

12m ago

Minnesota police chiefs seek meeting with Trump​

The Minnesota Chiefs of Police Association (MCPA) is requesting a meeting with President Trump, which the group says would be "constructive and timely" in light of the "complex, high-pressure environments" local law enforcement officers are working in "while communities seek reassurance, clarity, and stability."

"During periods of elevated tension, thoughtful leadership and responsible communication are essential to reducing strain rather than amplifying it," the group says. "... Public trust depends on consistent, professional conduct. At the same time, officer safety must remain a fundamental priority, as it is inseparable from the safety of the communities officers serve."

"A constructive path forward is essential. The MCPA encourages greater dialogue among federal and state leaders to support professional conduct that strengthens public safety, protects law enforcement professionals, and maintains public trust across Minnesota."

By Brian Dakss

Bovino, some Border Patrol agents to leave Minneapolis soon, sources tell CBS News

U.S. Border Patrol commander Gregory Bovino and some of his agents are expected to soon leave the Minneapolis area, two sources familiar with the move told CBS News Monday.

www.cbsnews.com

This is something I can really see tRump doing... he looks at situations like this as a photo op...and he can appear to appease these MN officials.... and he can pretend to "see" the other side.
I actually hope this does not happen.
requesting a meeting with President Trump,

 

[tlcya]

[snipped by me for focus] he looks at situations like this as a photo op...and he can appear to appease these MN officials.... and he can pretend to "see" the other side.
I actually hope this does not happen.
requesting a meeting with President Trump,

SBM

I think you give the POTUS more credit than I do. Yes he will see it as a photo op but also an opportunity chastise and to publicly humiliate MN elected officials and LE. IMO he will not pretend to see the other side. He will use this opportunity to further escalate the us versus them sort of mentality that has already divided this county.

I sort of hope he does take the meeting because he will only IMO show more of his true motivations behind sending ICE surge to MN and those motivations should give every American pause. JMO

 

[SouthAussie]

This is something I can really see tRump doing... he looks at situations like this as a photo op...and he can appear to appease these MN officials.... and he can pretend to "see" the other side.
I actually hope this does not happen.
requesting a meeting with President Trump,

I think MN officials have to try everything (but not release their private voter information, etc). The MN police chief said today that this is unsustainable. And it is.

So far the protesters and observers have been great - relatively calm and peaceful - but there is a huge risk that someone is going to shoot an ICE person and all heck will break loose.
It is a really dicey situation. As Obama and Clinton said, they are on the precipice. America is on the precipice.

imo

 

[Summerliz03]

SBM

I think you give the POTUS more credit than I do. Yes he will see it as a photo op but also an opportunity chastise and to publicly humiliate MN elected officials and LE. IMO he will not pretend to see the other side. He will use this opportunity to further escalate the us versus them sort of mentality that has already divided this county.

I sort of hope he does take the meeting because he will only IMO show more of his true motivations behind sending ICE surge to MN and those motivations should give every American pause. JMO

He couldn’t even bother to travel 2 miles down the street in Washington DC to pay respects to the passenger plane and US military helicopter victims during the collision in mid air over the Potomac river last year. So I highly doubt he will go to Minnesota.

 

[tlcya]

He couldn’t even bother to travel 2 miles down the street in Washington DC to pay respects to the passenger plane and US military helicopter victims during the collision in mid air over the Potomac river last year. So I highly doubt he will go to Minnesota.

I see your point, but I think the chance to descend upon MN and physically demonstrate the authority of his office or (more likely IMO) summon the chief to Washington to see him will be too difficult a pass for him. JMO.

 

[Summerliz03]

I see your point, but I think the chance to descend upon MN and physically demonstrate the authority of his office or (more likely IMO) summon the chief to Washington to see him will be too difficult a pass for him. JMO.

I agree with you, and I hope he does go because it will definitely show his true feelings and motivation behind the deployment of ICE in Minnesota. He will probably talk about how dangerous it is for him to go there, call it a war zone, disparage all the government officials there and then leave. All MOO

 

[nhmemorymaker]

SBM

I think you give the POTUS more credit than I do. Yes he will see it as a photo op but also an opportunity chastise and to publicly humiliate MN elected officials and LE. IMO he will not pretend to see the other side. He will use this opportunity to further escalate the us versus them sort of mentality that has already divided this county.

I sort of hope he does take the meeting because he will only IMO show more of his true motivations behind sending ICE surge to MN and those motivations should give every American pause. JMO

i do see your points. i do.
I would worry that the MN officials will not be as forceful as necessary...if in the WH.

 

[tlcya]

i do see your points. i do.
I would worry that the MN officials will not be as forceful as necessary...if in the WH.

if such a meeting takes place, no matter the location, I think MN officials should be very calm and measured in their responses. I would expect the POTUS to do what he does. I would hope MN officials would let him and in contrast remain very forthright and respectful of the office he holds. MOO POTUS will attempt to raise their ire in hopes he can then paint MN as some sort of insurrectionists poised to start a civil war, thereby giving him an excuse to impose martial law. I pray cooler MN heads prevail in not giving him that satisfaction.

 

[SouthAussie]

Today (Monday) ..... A judge will hear arguments as state and local officials seek to halt the federal deployment of immigration agents in Minnesota. The case has taken on heightened urgency after federal agents killed Alex Jeffrey Pretti.

Lawyers for the state of Minnesota and the cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul are seeking to temporarily halt the deployment of some 3,000 immigration agents, arguing that it has crossed the line into an unconstitutional and illegal occupation.

Minneapolis Live Updates: Judge to Consider Legality of Trump’s Immigration Crackdown

A judge will hear arguments as state and local officials seek to halt the federal deployment of immigration agents in Minnesota. The case has taken on heightened urgency after federal agents killed Alex Jeffrey Pretti.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Inthedetails]

Unfortunately, I think that is the line that they are going to push. Even more unfortunately, the Sig P320 (I think it was) has gained a terrible reputation for firing unintentionally and Sig has issued a recall - which apparently didn't solve the problem. There are videos of them discharging even while holstered!

You can see exactly where this is going, unfortunately

That would still leave the question: why did agents (plural) repeatedly shoot?

Why did they keep shooting at a man on the ground?

jmo

 

[seasideForest]

Indeed. There are what appears to be confrontations between Pretti and and more than one ICE agent, and more than one ICE agent interacts with Pretti. Pretti appears to place himself close to ICE agents on at least two separate occasions. There is physical contact on two occasions. He is described as an "observer" with a camera.

What were the ICE agents doing there? ICE agents were not operating independently. Someone hired them to go there and do that job. That is where the problem lies, not with the individual agents. The protests should be with the person making the decisions, not the person carrying them out ... in my opinion.

<modsnip: Removed personalizing questions> ... would you suggest they film but from a distance deemed suitable by the Border Patrol officers? The thing there is that BP will only consider the distance suitable if it's far enough away for the witness to not see anything.
MOO

 

[LibraStarr]

That old ‘Fifth Avenue’ line keeps coming to mind. Minneapolis feels like ground zero, where they realize they can do this in public and get away with it. I don’t think he is interested in talking with MN officials in any meaningful way.

IMO