MEDICAL EXAMINER RULES ALEX PRETTI DEATH A HOMICIDE -1 - dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US Jan 24, 2026

[Inthedetails]

"Does the president agree with them?" ABC News Chief White House Correspondent Mary Bruce asked Leavitt during Monday's press briefing.

"Look, as I've said, I have not heard the president characterize Mr. Pretti in that way," Leavitt said. "However, I have heard the president say he wants to let the facts in the investigation lead itself."
White House distances Trump from provocative claims by Noem, others on Pretti shooting

When asked for comment, the White House referred POLITICO to Trump’s Truth Social post and to a post on X from the Department of Homeland Security, which claimed, “The officers attempted to disarm the suspect but the armed suspect violently resisted.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/24/minneapolis-shooting-ice-trump-democrats-00745630

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115951636521315703

https://twitter.com/x/status/2015115351797780500

As the protesters have been saying, documentation is essential. We saw and heard what leadership said following the shooting of Alex Pretti.

Now would be the time to say, "We apologize, we were rash in our assessment after the incident, we take the situation seriously, and we are making changes so it won't happen again."

jmo

 

[tlcya]

As the protesters have been saying, documentation is essential. We saw and heard what leadership said following the shooting of Alex Pretti.

Now would be the time to say, "We apologize, we were rash in our assessment after the incident, we take the situation seriously, and we are making changes so it won't happen again."

jmo

That is indeed what should happen. But we all know it won't.

 

[Hexe]

In my opinion, his firearm in this case played a critical role in how the event unfolded,

Excuse me, how exactly? Alex had his gun holstered, the video footage makes it pretty obvious. The agents seemed unaware of the fact he was carrying, until they searched him. And, let me remind you, they searched him after they already pepper sprayed and tackled him. And that they shot him after they took his gun away.

So please, explain me, how did that invisible and then absent gun could play any role in their decision to shoot Alex.

MOO

 

[Hexe]

In my opinion very little, if nothing at all actually, however, the presence of the firearm after he inserted himself in to the situation, in my opinion, played a part in the events that unfolded, and also, in my opinion, it was a poor judgement call on his behalf.

Let me quote my previous post:

Excuse me, how exactly? Alex had his gun holstered, the video footage makes it pretty obvious. The agents seemed unaware of the fact he was carrying, until they searched him. And, let me remind you, they searched him after they already pepper sprayed and tackled him. And that they shot him after they took his gun away.

So please, explain me, how did that invisible and then absent gun could play any role in their decision to shoot Alex.

Well?

MOO

 

[tlcya]

FBI reportedly has the victim's phone and footage on it has been preserved (allegedly)

Video New bystander and body camera video in Alex Pretti shooting

 

[Cryptic]

I am also aware of numerous other responsibilities that come along with the carrying of a deadly weapon on my person in public. This is why I say unfortunately, in my opinion, he exercised poor judgement that day.

Well said. Prudent people know that there is more to carrying a weapon than simply having the legal ability to do so.

Of course, law enforcement must be aware that they will encounter a variety of people who, while using using poor judgement, are not committing criminal acts.

 

[Inthedetails]

That is indeed what should happen. But we all know it won't.

At least they aren't reacting like after Renee's killing when they sent more troops.


jmopinion

 

[Inthedetails]

Excuse me, how exactly? Alex had his gun holstered, the video footage makes it pretty obvious. The agents seemed unaware of the fact he was carrying, until they searched him. And, let me remind you, they searched him after they already pepper sprayed and tackled him. And that they shot him after they took his gun away.

So please, explain me, how did that invisible and then absent gun could play any role in their decision to shoot Alex.

MOO

Seems like the message is to be a good guy with a gun (2A!)....unless you get killed by federal agents.

jmopinion

 

[Strangeworld]

What I find really distressing about the discussions around this shooting is the references to what Alex should have done to prevent his death. What about the ICE agents having some self control and risk assessment in the moment. Honestly, even if Alex wanted to use his gun (which IMO he almost certainly did not want to), he was already impacted by a face full of spray and pinned down by multiple ICE agents, not to mention his gun was also removed. He wasn't in any position to be a threat.

How anyone can continue to place blame on him is shocking, the presence of his gun is not what got him killed. It was either intentional violence or at the very least, complete incompetence at reasonably assessing a situation by ICE. And there is no excuse that can justify it i.e. it all happened quickly, or he had a gun so he was a threat that required many gun shots to contain.

I would love to see the recruitment processes for ICE agents, transparency around their training, criminal history checks, psychological testing, stress responses, etc etc etc. Watching footage of ICE agents scares me and I'm not even in the country - there is alot of aggression, anger and intimidation tactics on show. Either this is coming from within the agents (personality, etc) or they were told to act like this in training. Both are again inexcusable.

If only an ICE agent came forward, even anonymously, and shared what these agents were told in their training.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Excuse me, how exactly? Alex had his gun holstered, the video footage makes it pretty obvious. The agents seemed unaware of the fact he was carrying, until they searched him. And, let me remind you, they searched him after they already pepper sprayed and tackled him. And that they shot him after they took his gun away.

So please, explain me, how did that invisible and then absent gun could play any role in their decision to shoot Alex.

MOO

I am a strong proponent of our 2nd amendment rights and carry myself on a regular basis. It is disturbing to me how in this case, so many American citizens seem willing to say that simply legally possessing a firearm on your body can be reasonable incitement for a federal agent to shoot you. In my state, officers are trained and typically will not even ask you to remove your firearm during a regular stop. It’s a shame ICE seems to have received no such training, or even know what they are supposed to do when they encounter a civilian with a firearm. In my opinion, these officers are so untrained they are often acting from a state of panic, unable to remain calm and rational.

I am worried to see how our 1st, 2nd, and 4th amendment right seem to be eroded every day in this country. I believe if our rights are not exercised, they may well be taken away, and it disturbs me to see so many of my countrymen encourage others to simply not use their rights in the wake of these shootings. MOO.

 

[Jade]

In my opinion very little, if nothing at all actually, however, the presence of the firearm after he inserted himself in to the situation, in my opinion, played a part in the events that unfolded, and also, in my opinion, it was a poor judgement call on his behalf.

That lacks logic as from all reports ICE was busy shoving women to the ground and weren’t even aware of the gun held legally by the gentleman Nurse assisting a brutally attacked women.

It appears the [mod ship] murdered the Nurse because they were enraged he was providing care to their victim not becouse of a gun that they didn’t know of.

I hope it wasn’t too late to do drug tests on those ICE officers.


Imo

 

[Inthedetails]

What I find really distressing about the discussions around this shooting is the references to what Alex should have done to prevent his death. What about the ICE agents having some self control and risk assessment in the moment. Honestly, even if Alex wanted to use his gun (which IMO he almost certainly did not want to), he was already impacted by a face full of spray and pinned down by multiple ICE agents, not to mention his gun was also removed. He wasn't in any position to be a threat.

How anyone can continue to place blame on him is shocking, the presence of his gun is not what got him killed. It was either intentional violence or at the very least, complete incompetence at reasonably assessing a situation by ICE. And there is no excuse that can justify it i.e. it all happened quickly, or he had a gun so he was a threat that required many gun shots to contain.

I would love to see the recruitment processes for ICE agents, transparency around their training, criminal history checks, psychological testing, stress responses, etc etc etc. Watching footage of ICE agents scares me and I'm not even in the country - there is alot of aggression, anger and intimidation tactics on show. Either this is coming from within the agents (personality, etc) or they were told to act like this in training. Both are again inexcusable.

If only an ICE agent came forward, even anonymously, and shared what these agents were told in their training.

Exactly. I want info on their training. Noem has repeatedly said the agents are trained and are following procedures. Show us the training and procedures.

Last night I watched a live stream of a protest in a Minneapolis suburb. The local police arrived and cleared the crowd. It took time, arrests happened, but nobody was shot or aggressively shoved. You could see the officers were trained and didn't go into a rage if people yelled at them.

There are ways to handle the public besides aggressively approaching people to shove, pepper-spray in the face, and shoot them.

jmopinion

 

[Summerliz03]

As the protesters have been saying, documentation is essential. We saw and heard what leadership said following the shooting of Alex Pretti.

Now would be the time to say, "We apologize, we were rash in our assessment after the incident, we take the situation seriously, and we are making changes so it won't happen again."

jmo

This is the part that makes it worse for me. I’m already outraged in the statements made by the POTUS and other high level members of his administration immediately after the incident - the lies, the victim blaming, etc. The fact that not ONE of them (not Trump, Noem, Miller, Bovino) has EVER said “this is a terrible loss of life, we are so sorry to the victims family” or anything remotely resembling an ounce of humanity, condolences or respect to the victim is truly chilling. It’s honestly abhorrent how our government continues to speak about this incident (and previous ones) with a complete lack of any humanity or decorum. Like, have we fallen that far? It’s mind boggling to me. All MOO.

 

[Marantz4250b]

"Does the president agree with them?" ABC News Chief White House Correspondent Mary Bruce asked Leavitt during Monday's press briefing.

"Look, as I've said, I have not heard the president characterize Mr. Pretti in that way," Leavitt said. "However, I have heard the president say he wants to let the facts in the investigation lead itself."
White House distances Trump from provocative claims by Noem, others on Pretti shooting

When asked for comment, the White House referred POLITICO to Trump’s Truth Social post and to a post on X from the Department of Homeland Security, which claimed, “The officers attempted to disarm the suspect but the armed suspect violently resisted.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/24/minneapolis-shooting-ice-trump-democrats-00745630

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115951636521315703

https://twitter.com/x/status/2015115351797780500

That Twitter post is riddled with lies. For a start, it begins disingenuously by giving the impression that he approached the agents giving the impression that he was armed. We know from the multiple videos that that is false.

It goes on to say:

The officers attempted to disarm the suspect but the armed suspect violently resisted. More details on the armed struggle are forthcoming. Fearing for his life and the lives and safety of fellow officers, an agent fired defensive shots. Medics on scene immediately delivered medical aid to the subject but was pronounced dead at the scene.

They did not "attempt to disarm him" as they didn't know he was armed until right at the end. That's a LIE!

It also follows, then that he could not have been violently resisting being disarmed. Another LIE!

"Defensive shots" were absolutely NOT fired because there was nothing to defend against. He was not a threat to anyone in any way at all when they shot him multiple times. Yet another LIE!

No medics "immediately delivered medical aid". We have the videos and no medics are shown anywhere at any point. Yet another example of a state issued LIE!

The post goes on but calling out the rest of the lies is pointless because the people who publish this utter hogwash simply don't care at all.

 

[Strangeworld]

Exactly. I want info on their training. Noem has repeatedly said the agents are trained and are following procedures. Show us the training and procedures.

Last night I watched a live stream of a protest in a Minneapolis suburb. The local police arrived and cleared the crowd. It took time, arrests happened, but nobody was shot or aggressively shoved. You could see the officers were trained and didn't go into a rage if people yelled at them.

There are ways to handle the public besides aggressively approaching people to shove, pepper-spray in the face, and shoot them.

jmopinion

Exactly!

And not only do they need to show the manuals, policies, procedures, everything that was the formal part of training, they need to get those ICE agents to testify as to what was said to them outside of the formalities of training. If Trump's language is anything to go by, IMO they could have been told 'off the record' how to go about their job. I won't say anymore on that but you get what I mean hopefully

 

[LAborn]

I have my doubts. The mayor of Minneapolis, Frey, already stated that he will not enforce federal immigration law - and this was after talking to the President.

MN won't infringe on people's human rights to enforce immigration law. They will follow the law, different than what you're saying.

 

[Inthedetails]

Or unless your political alignment is not the same as the current administration. MOO.

Yes. When it's next to impossible to find fault with a victim, some will still find fault with a victim. It's hard for some, I understand, to find fault with authority, even as authority is now backstepping.

jmopinion

 

[LAborn]

My opinion. I never mentioned execution or murder, the two words being used at will in this thread without an investigation or charges being brought in any way shape or form.

My opinion. Hindsight watching videos and actions taken in the heat of a moment differ. You state killing someone is a last resort only if the person believes their life is at risk, interestingly I agree, and feel this point will be one of many considered in an investigation and any legal action taken regarding the agents involved.

Fact. I personally have 3 permits to carry a firearm, each issued from separate States here in the U.S. I have years of experience in the exercise of my 2nd amendment rights. I am extremely cognizant of firearms carry law and how it differs from state to state in the U.S. I am also aware of numerous other responsibilities that come along with the carrying of a deadly weapon on my person in public. This is why I say unfortunately, in my opinion, he exercised poor judgement that day.

In my opinion it's truly an unfortunate case. I don't think any agent left their home that morning with an intent or plan to kill. I'll await the results of the investigation(s). I am not an attorney, but I think there are many factors involved here, murder and execution not being on the table. If, however, those charges come to light, then the named agents surely should be held accountable.

 

[LAborn]

It's very odd to hear Kash Patel and others blame the victim for having a legal firearm--the same people who say, "Arm every teacher!" or "Only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun!!".

 

[tlcya]

DBM as it strays OT, apologies.