MEDICAL EXAMINER RULES ALEX PRETTI DEATH A HOMICIDE -1 - dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US Jan 24, 2026

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<modsnip: Quoted post was duplicate of witness interview, removed due to random, non-approved source>

This is her opinion, speculation, boosted by a guy on social media (Webb). Saying agents "decided to just scatter to save themselves" is guesswork. IMO
I agree that her comments about what the agents were thinking are opinion and speculative. Given the reason why she was at the scene, I’d take it with a dose of skepticism. imo
 
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Moo..are there other countries that deal with their people this way? The things I did not understand was why person was pushed, and then then the spray. Worst thing for me to watch was the guy just bashing him...I don't think that's legal. Hate to see how they treat those they do arrest 😞
Yes, a supposed law enforcement officer violently shoves a non-violent woman down to the ground. A caring non-violent man moves to help the woman up off the ground. All this done on slippery, snowy ground right next to a vehicle. The man is grabbed, pulled and sprayed with pepper spray in his face from less that a foot away. While he continues to hold onto the woman trying to get to her feet, who ultimately has to scoot on her bottom away from the agent and pepper spray, the helpful man is torn away from her and jumped on by numerous agents. Thrown down to the ground, the man is now bludgeoned in his face with a large pepper spray metal canister. The man is on his knees, bent over forward, his arms being held on both sides. Almost at the same time the non-violent man is disarmed from behind of his legal carry gun. A BP agent scurries away with that gun as the prone non-violent man is shot in the back, by two agents, 10 times. That's what I see in reviewing the videos, MO

That whole scenario is not a professional LE action. It looked more like an attack, a mugging by a gang of criminals to me. AJMO
 
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I mean, I am not even an eyewitness and from the videos Ive seen, the agents did scatter. Several of practically ran away from the scene, it’s right there in video. None of them administered aid to Alex, as they kept him turned on his side which is not CPR protocol. If that’s the protocol of what they are supposed to do after shooting someone, I’d say there needs to be a major change in their training. IMO.
Yup, yup. Agree 100%. Jonathon Ross also didn't administer aid to Renee and made the "wrap it up" motion with his hand. That's who we're dealing with. Luckily there are eye witnesses and video for both. The physician eye witness to Alex's murder confirmed they didn't attempt CPR. And others have said they were rifling through his pockets and counting bullet woulds (pink lady coat eyewitness). Barbaric and disgusting.
 
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And I'm not surprised (I'm taking your word that someone was denied access) they did not allow a random, unvetted person to enter an active crime scene to render first aid. IMO
You don’t have to take her word for it, it’s in sworn witness testimony that no one was able to render aid at first to Mr Pretti (they did finally let this physician in to help) and that the agents themselves did not render aid to him, as they kept him on his side instead of moving him to his back and starting CPR. It’s all right here in the official testimony they gave.

 
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I agree that her comments about what the agents were thinking are opinion and speculative. Given the reason why she was at the scene, I’d take it with a dose of skepticism. imo
An American citizen isn't allowed to exist in their own town? Since when?
 
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You don’t have to take her word for it, it’s in sworn witness testimony that no one was able to render aid to Mr Pretti and that the agents themselves did not render aid to him, as they kept him on his side instead of moving him to his back and starting CPR. It’s all right here in the official testimony they gave.


Yes, I believe it. As I stated, I'm not surprised agents did not allow a random, unvetted person enter an active crime scene to render first aid. IMO
 
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Yes, I believe it. As I stated, I'm not surprised agents did not allow a random, unvetted person enter an active crime scene to render first aid. IMO
I would actually agree with you, I don’t think random people should be able to enter a crime scene to render aid in normal situations. However, the agents themselves weren’t doing it, and didn’t seem able or willing to do it, and it seems they realized it was an extremely grave situation since he was shot 10+ times so they eventually allowed the physician to assist.
 
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Yes, I believe it. As I stated, I'm not surprised agents did not allow a random, unvetted person enter an active crime scene to render first aid. IMO
If this is ICE protocol, it's completely wrong and broken. They can't be trusted with guns, let's have them carry tasers instead, and take off their masks, wear name badges with ID numbers.
 
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speaking of vetting, I would be most curious to know more about the vetting and training of the masked federal agents. My understanding is that they have been rushed into duty due to the increased demand of this administration's mission and that their training time has been greatly reduced due to that demand.

We've seen earlier in the thread video from a woman who applied to see what the process is like, but I would be most interested in hearing from the agency itself what training new agents receive and how it may or may not differ from what new agents received during previous administrations. Particularly what their training was concerning de-escalation since in the past two MN fatal shooting incidents seen on video there seemed to be little or no de-escalation. In fact I saw activities that seem clear to me were instances of Escalation on the part of agents.

ETA not that it would have mattered in the case of Renee Good because the agent who killed her was a veteran of many years, which is discouraging MOO, since I would have hoped his training and years of experience would have given him better tools.
 
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It's clearly nowhere to be seen in some people.
They are the minority though IMO, thankfully.

Agree. Many many stories out there recently that make clear the profoundly compassionate and thoughtful actions of so many in MN and elsewhere in light of the activities/ assaults within their communities and neighbourhoods. Here's hoping that extends to whatever the "de-escalation" portends and to the (hopefully honest and full-throated) investigations that follow.

Though I read this morning of a strain amongst a subset of influencers claiming that even neighbourly compassion "imperils critical thinking" and is antithetical to specific cultural/ political projects. Egads.

An article from Politico on the legal fallout coming down the pike:

 
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speaking of vetting, I would be most curious to know more about the vetting and training of the masked federal agents. My understanding is that they have been rushed into duty due to the increased demand of this administration's mission and that their training time has been greatly reduced due to that demand.

We've seen earlier in the thread video form a woman who applied to see what the process is like, but I would be most interested in hearing from the agency itself what training new agents receive and how it may or may not differ from what new agents received during previous administrations. Particularly what their training was concerning de-escalation since in the past two MN fatal shooting incidents seen on video there seemed to be little or no de-escalation. In fact I saw activities that seem clear to me were instances of Escalation on the part of agents.
They've also increased daily arrest quotas. ICE’s tactics draw criticism as it triples daily arrest targets
 
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That’s your interpretation.
Those were questions. You implied something about the witness with your comment. BayouBelle LA said: "Given the reason why she was at the scene, I’d take it with a dose of skepticism. imo"

What are you implying?
 
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In response to recent events in Minneapolis, Germany has upgraded a travel warning to its citizens visiting the United States.

In a newly updated travel advisory, the country’s foreign ministry urges Germans in the United Sstates to avoid large gatherings where violence could occur. Last March, the ministry updated its advisory to warn citizens about outstaying their visas or lying to border officials after at least two Germans were arrested when trying to enter the United States.

 
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SBM

Protecting criminal and other illegal immigrants? How is that their job?
Forcefully entering homes without a judicial warrant, stopping and pulling people (in many cases citizens of the US) out of cars for no LE probable cause reason/judicial warrant, violently treating them as criminals when they resist and a lot of times carting them away, mostly out of state (some of those taken away are children).

This was not the mandate that was stated as to the job of ICE, getting the worse of the worst off our streets. This is a bunch of rouge and untrained players embolden by legally false statements, made by administrators, that they have absolute immunity for anything they do. And two American citizens are dead and others beaten, detained and still in custody. The mindset of these rogues was highlighted and displayed recently in this thread when an ICE agent was seen telling a man, "If you raise your voice, I erase your voice.".

Who's job is it then to stand up for humanity if not everyone one of us, who have the will to and can do it? A rhetorical question as I feel the answer is quite clear.
All the above is AJMO

 
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The administration is opposing a judges order to prevent them from destroying evidence in Alex Pretti’s case.

Now why would they do that, especially if this was a justified shooting? MOO
 
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On a FB of my friend, a group of US-born FB users was discussing what documents should they get/have. (Not everyone in the country has a passport. People were scared.) In my state, there is an enhanced driver’s license that we got to drive to Canada. It is a valid proof of citizenship which is currently available in five states: MN, MI, WA, NY and VT. Ohio is going to introduce it, too. MOO, the whole country should probably use them.

But tbh, I would be concerned about the need to take passport everywhere. Passports may get lost or stolen.

Profiling is a true problem. How is ICE in Minnesota going to explain this?


Three of the four natives arrested by ICE in Minnesota have not been yet accounted for.

They are Natives. They can’t be deported. And they are unhoused, and might be sick. Where are they?

With the Natives, we have one more obvious problem. They have dual citizenship: tribal and the US one. Tribal cards I have seen, they are small. Would that be enough, or do Natives have to get passports now?
My state also has a "Real ID" that can get you on a plane and (as listed) even get you entrance into a nuclear facility. That is not acceptable if ICE stopped my car in my state. I would need a passport or a birth certificate, maybe both.

Concerning those Native Americans taken, the Chief was interviewed and told by DHS/(ICE) in a document, if he wanted more than just the first names of the tribal members being held, his tribe would have to agree and sign off on ICE/DHS having complete access to reservation land, to come and go as they see fit. I see that as blackmail using human lives to force them to give up their tribal rights to their land as they're holding First Nation Citizens in captivity.
MO...disgraceful and illegal.
AJMO
 
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If this is ICE protocol, it's completely wrong and broken. They can't be trusted with guns, let's have them carry tasers instead, and take off their masks, wear name badges with ID numbers.

IMO, no LE agency, by sideline request default, let's random, unvetted civilians into an active crime scene, especially right after a shooting. That's scene security, not misconduct. You don't hand control of a volatile scene to unknown people. I suspect you wouldn't like tasers being deployed either, and masks off, with your name badge with ID # idea on doesn't turn live operations into meet-and-greets. IMO
 

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