MEDICAL EXAMINER RULES ALEX PRETTI DEATH A HOMICIDE -1 - dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US Jan 24, 2026

[tricia]

I think many of us see exactly what you are seeing.

Thank you @tlcya
I would like to hear from someone who does not see what I am seeing. I really want to understand why some people believe the video is showing something different than what I see.

 

[tricia]

My opinion, he inserted himself when he went to grab the woman who was on the ground. If that's not inserting oneself into a situation I don't know what is. Had he turned and walked away my opinion is he would be alive today.

@statt#1 I believe you are right. If he had walked away, he would be alive, but he couldn't. He saw a woman being pushed, and I think his instinct was to help her. I don't think he thought, "hey, I'll get involved here and interfere with ICE." I think his intention was to help the woman and make sure she didn't get hurt. He did what he thought was the right thing to do. IMO

 

[SouthAussie]

"We cannot back down," he tells the mayors gathered, adding it is them that will "hold this democracy together".

As he departs the stage, he's given a standing ovation.

Live: Tom Homan says Minnesota operation will be 'safer, by the book'

Tom Homan has been deployed after two people were shot dead by federal agents in the city in less than a month.

www.bbc.co.uk

It is so encouraging to see some brave leaders stepping forward, and being applauded by their peers.

imo

 

[tricia]

My opinion, had the agents ignored Alex and walked away after losing their target, instead of approaching bystanders and pushing them to the ground, he would still be alive today.

Absolutely agree @MrsWatson

 

[erratum]

@statt#1 I believe you are right. If he had walked away, he would be alive, but he couldn't. He saw a woman being pushed, and I think his instinct was to help her. I don't think he thought, "hey, I'll get involved here and interfere with ICE." I think his intention was to help the woman and make sure she didn't get hurt. He did what he thought was the right thing to do. IMO

And if he'd gone to the Bahamas, he'd have a tan.

But he didn't. Ifs don't work, imo, because that's not what he did.

Here's an "if". If he didn't bend down to assist the woman on the ground, would SHE have been shot 10 times by multiple assailants?

 

[waldojabba]

This. Exactly this.

"Some of those that work forces / Are the same that burn crosses,"
- Rage Against the Machine 1992

It really is that simple isn't it
JMO

 

[LibraStarr]

The woman who filmed the video from inside her white car, right in front of where Alex was shot, has spoken out. She has some interesting things to say about ICE’s escalation and intimidation tactics.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/28/us/video/townhall-anderson-kayla-schultz-alex-pretti-witness-video

This woman is so brave, like the others who’ve spoken publicly. Her voice is shaking, but she knows she has to speak out.

Reminds me of this quote.

“Stand before the people you fear and speak your mind — even if your voice shakes.”
-Maggie Kuhn

 

[statt#1]

That woman was another protester, not a subject of the investigation of the agents.

Helping other people to get up is not a crime and I would be grateful to have it explained how did it interfere with the agent's official duties.

MOO

I would like to know what transpired to cause an ICE agent to push her, why or how it came to be she was in that situation to begin with, and most importantly, if at that moment the agent was perceiving a threat.

 

[iamshadow21]

Minneapolis ICE watchers face violence, teargas and arrests. They keep showing up

Bystanders say they are determined to keep recording federal agents’ actions: ‘There will be absolutely no accountability unless people are documenting’

www.theguardian.com

 

[statt#1]

If helping a fellow human being off the ground is not allowed anymore, it’s surely a sad world we live in.

There was a lot going on, and in my opinion the totality of circumstances over time will be considered.

 

[Summerliz03]

An Associated Press journalist speaking out about an encounter with ICE agents as they were detaining someone.

AP reporter describes federal officers pushing journalists back to car as they documented operation

Immigration enforcement operations and confrontations with activists continued Wednesday morning in Minneapolis and St.

apnews.com

 

[Ruminations]

I can also find nothing about this on the BBC website despite various other sites claiming the video is BBC-verified. It's not mentioned in their BBC Verify thread. I wondered if they had had doubts since broadcasting it last night.

The Guardian, however, appears to confirm it.

Videos show altercation between Alex Pretti and federal officers 11 days before he was killed

Three newly discovered videos show the Minneapolis ICU nurse being tackled by federal agents in a prior confrontation

www.theguardian.com

If genuine it is background information, nothing more, IMO.

If genuine, it suggests a longer period of premeditation before the murder.

MOO

 

[Strangeworld]

@statt#1 I believe you are right. If he had walked away, he would be alive, but he couldn't. He saw a woman being pushed, and I think his instinct was to help her. I don't think he thought, "hey, I'll get involved here and interfere with ICE." I think his intention was to help the woman and make sure she didn't get hurt. He did what he thought was the right thing to do. IMO

And even if he did walk away, someone else may have instead faced the same fate he did that day or the next.

His death has triggered a very public analysis of ICE agent behaviour, and if Alex' death hadn't triggered this, we may be chatting on another thread right now with a different person's name as the victim

 

[LibraStarr]

There was a lot going on, and in my opinion the totality of circumstances over time will be considered.

I actually agree with this.

But my opinion is that the totality of the circumstances will show that the agent was using excessive force on the women and that the agents used unjustified lethal force on Alex.

 

[Summerliz03]

I would like to know what transpired to cause an ICE agent to push her, why or how it came to be she was in that situation to begin with, and most importantly, if at that moment the agent was perceiving a threat.

If an officer is feeling threatened, it is not in their training to escalate the situation and physically push someone to the ground. They can arrest them, legally and safely, by using handcuffs but there is no standard or training for an officer to shove and push someone away from them upon first approach. IMO.

 

[JennieM]

There was a lot going on, and in my opinion the totality of circumstances over time will be considered.

It will be considered but I think it will show unjust force.

 

[Strangeworld]

If an officer is feeling threatened, it is not in their training to escalate the situation and physically push someone to the ground. They can arrest them, legally and safely, by using handcuffs but there is no standard or training for an officer to shove and push someone away from them upon first approach. IMO.

Well not in their formal training

 

[tlcya]

I would like to know what transpired to cause an ICE agent to push her, why or how it came to be she was in that situation to begin with, and most importantly, if at that moment the agent was perceiving a threat.

from the :57 mark of this ABC footage thru :59 mark. The woman and agent are standing in a parking spot along the side of the road approx three feet apart she said or yelled something at him. Agent immediately advances and give her a hard shove down to the pavement.

MOO she was yelling at him for having just seconds before shoved the lady in brown coat into AP who caught her around her waist to prevent them both from falling (see this WKYC footage at the :54 mark for the shoving of both women) MOO there was no perceived threat. Just anger and frustration.

 

[SouthAussie]

I would like to know what transpired to cause an ICE agent to push her, why or how it came to be she was in that situation to begin with, and most importantly, if at that moment the agent was perceiving a threat.

They actually push quite a lot of people. Push them, pepper spray them, tear gas them. For showing up, standing on the sidewalks, and letting their thoughts be known.

So many reels out there that everyone can easily find, filmed by bystanders, showing this aggressive behaviour by ICE against protesters and observers. Against people using their 1st amendment rights.

imo

 

[Friday Fan]

We can offer interpretations.

The question is about the legality, though.

Here is what ICE agents do to cars. Note: this is a US citizen, so obviously they had no warrants for his arrest and just profiled him. He is ethically Mexican, US citizen and voted for Trump.

Who paid him for the car repair and unlawful arrest?

Can the way ICE treat the cars be even compared to what Alex did?

But again, we may have different opinions, we are talking about the legal side of the situation.

Look what they did to his vehicle! Pepper sprayed and restrained. Also the way they restrain people these days can injure them.

Someone I know was afraid her young adult kids would get arrested at a protest and didn't want them to get a record, so she walked up to the cops and said "Take me instead". Boy, they threw her on the ground, rubbed her face in the gravel, threw her in jail for several days and injured her back.

She was expecting something like the 70s, where they politely handcuff people.