MEDICAL EXAMINER RULES ALEX PRETTI DEATH A HOMICIDE -1 - dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US Jan 24, 2026

[Strangeworld]

Great move forward to identify the ICE agents involved in the shooting. This pushes accountability, even public accountability forward.

It demonstrates to other ICE agents that the masks are temporary, eventual identification has a high probability of happening if they engage in unlawful behaviour IMO

There does appear to be an informal identification of ICE agents by some members of the public. This can be risky as it could be seen as doxxing or they may wrongly identify someone (as we've seen before in other cases).

However I understand the motivation for those who do it - they are reaching breaking point at the anonymity and how it appears to feed the decision-making and subsequent actions when they are performing their duties IMO.

I wonder how many would be going about their job in the same way if their faces were exposed. Some ICE agents IMO appear unfazed as they have been filmed without their mask on readily responding to the cameras. But there are likely many who hide behind the mask.

 

[zleuther]

Over 5 days since the shooting.

I'm 95% sure Hennepin County has the names of the two shooters.

I'm 70% sure there's a whistleblower.

"The two federal immigration agents who fired on Minneapolis protester Alex Pretti are identified in government records as Border Patrol agent Jesus Ochoa and Customs and Border Protection officer Raymundo Gutierrez."

Ochoa is a Border Patrol agent who joined CBP in 2018. Gutierrez joined in 2014 and works for CBP’s Office of Field Operations. He is assigned to a special response team, which conducts high-risk operations like those of police SWAT units.

Two CBP Agents Identified in Alex Pretti Shooting

The two federal immigration agents who fired on Minneapolis protester Alex Pretti are identified in government records as Border Patrol agent Jesus Ochoa and Customs and Border Protection officer Raymundo Gutierrez.

www.propublica.org

https://twitter.com/x/status/2018071645538091083

Don't be surprised if it takes awhile for other media to confirm (rather than to just report "ProPublica has"). ProPublica is somewhat famous for its security/tech-methodology.

IMO they have received a whistleblower document and it has caught many by complete surprise. I predict we'll learn that the same document was sent to Minnesota authorities, prolly several days before it was sent to ProPublica

 

[Friday Fan]

Great move forward to identify the ICE agents involved in the shooting. This pushes accountability, even public accountability forward.

It demonstrates to other ICE agents that the masks are temporary, eventual identification has a high probability of happening if they engage in unlawful behaviour IMO

There does appear to be an informal identification of ICE agents by some members of the public. This can be risky as it could be seen as doxxing or they may wrongly identify someone (as we've seen before in other cases).

However I understand the motivation for those who do it - they are reaching breaking point at the anonymity and how it appears to feed the decision-making and subsequent actions when they are performing their duties IMO.

I wonder how many would be going about their job in the same way if their faces were exposed. Some ICE agents IMO appear unfazed as they have been filmed without their mask on readily responding to the cameras. But there are likely many who hide behind the mask.

They dox everyone left and right, so the tools they're using are also available elsewhere.

 

[Inthedetails]

Some snippets, but the whole article is worth reading and is a reminder that it's not just protesting and vigils happening in Minnesota, but "roll up your sleeves and pitch in" work too. bbm:


In what is arguably the most widespread effort in the country to combat Donald Trump’s severe mass deportation tactics, tens of thousands of Minnesotans have played a role in defending their neighbors from ICE. They patrol in their cars and document agents, give rides to people who feel unsafe driving, stand outside schools at drop-offs and dismissals to protect children and their parents, deliver groceries and supplies to families who are staying inside for fear of detention, and crowdfunding legal aid or rent....

But the anti-ICE resistance in Minnesota is broad. For every person documenting ICE visible in videos now spread around the world, there are hundreds more behind the scenes working to keep their immigrant neighbors safe. ...

More people got involved in December when Trump started calling Somali people “garbage” and first flooded agents into town, emptying out Somali and Latino businesses. ...

“It’s hard to be like, they will keep killing us, and we must remain peaceful,” she said. “But we also know that the conditions that we’re organizing under require us to be exceptionally careful about anything that could be perceived as violence, even if it’s self-defense. And that’s an unfortunate reality of the moment that we’re in right now, where we’re not just fighting for the soul of Minnesota, we’re fighting for the soul of the rest of the country.” ...

These are not neighbors in theory; at this point, most know someone who has been taken by ICE, either directly or in their school or work networks, or people who have been detained for protesting or observing, or businesses they frequent that can’t safely open their doors, or families that haven’t left their homes in weeks. ...

Natalie Ehret sits in a minivan, a near-constant presence with her newly started group, Haven Watch, for the last few weeks, ready to give a coat, a phone and a friendly face to those released from detention, which includes protesters and immigrants.
She and her sons had gone to the building, and her son found two people outside in the cold without coats after being released. She had printed out know-your-rights cards to bring with them, but she’d thrown them all away – the rules seemed to be out the window. ...

“This city is literally being slaughtered for political sport.”

‘We’re fighting for the soul of the country’: how Minnesota residents came together to face ICE

Networks created after police killed George Floyd were reactivated to challenge Trump’s mass deportation policy

www.theguardian.com

 

[iamshadow21]

Some snippets, but the whole article is worth reading and is a reminder that it's not just protesting and vigils happening in Minnesota, but "roll up your sleeves and pitch in" work too. bbm:


In what is arguably the most widespread effort in the country to combat Donald Trump’s severe mass deportation tactics, tens of thousands of Minnesotans have played a role in defending their neighbors from ICE. They patrol in their cars and document agents, give rides to people who feel unsafe driving, stand outside schools at drop-offs and dismissals to protect children and their parents, deliver groceries and supplies to families who are staying inside for fear of detention, and crowdfunding legal aid or rent....

But the anti-ICE resistance in Minnesota is broad. For every person documenting ICE visible in videos now spread around the world, there are hundreds more behind the scenes working to keep their immigrant neighbors safe. ...

More people got involved in December when Trump started calling Somali people “garbage” and first flooded agents into town, emptying out Somali and Latino businesses. ...

“It’s hard to be like, they will keep killing us, and we must remain peaceful,” she said. “But we also know that the conditions that we’re organizing under require us to be exceptionally careful about anything that could be perceived as violence, even if it’s self-defense. And that’s an unfortunate reality of the moment that we’re in right now, where we’re not just fighting for the soul of Minnesota, we’re fighting for the soul of the rest of the country.” ...

These are not neighbors in theory; at this point, most know someone who has been taken by ICE, either directly or in their school or work networks, or people who have been detained for protesting or observing, or businesses they frequent that can’t safely open their doors, or families that haven’t left their homes in weeks. ...

Natalie Ehret sits in a minivan, a near-constant presence with her newly started group, Haven Watch, for the last few weeks, ready to give a coat, a phone and a friendly face to those released from detention, which includes protesters and immigrants.
She and her sons had gone to the building, and her son found two people outside in the cold without coats after being released. She had printed out know-your-rights cards to bring with them, but she’d thrown them all away – the rules seemed to be out the window. ...

“This city is literally being slaughtered for political sport.”

‘We’re fighting for the soul of the country’: how Minnesota residents came together to face ICE

Networks created after police killed George Floyd were reactivated to challenge Trump’s mass deportation policy

www.theguardian.com

I just read this, it is an amazing article.

 

[charliethecat]

ICE approach him, pushing him away

New video, new angles, at link.

New angles emerge of fatal Minneapolis shooting

As the man struggled with the border agents, he was sprayed in the eyes and fell to the ground.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I don't understand why these ICE agents are so twitchy about people filming them or barracking them? Surely they know they are in a place where many don't support them or their role and if they have a justified/defined role to play then they should have the confidence to go about doing their duties. It is almost as if they see disorder & criminality in legitimate protest. Yet protest has been around for years even from the times of throwing tea chests over board in Boston in 1773.

 

[charliethecat]

Noem speaking now. FEMA, help for people in storm ...

Now ... "Fearing for his life and those around him, agent fired shot" (Umm, 10 shots or so). "Medics were there immediately"

Now she is trashing Walz. (fraud allegations) City is corrupt.
Now comparing how FL and TX "don't have this problem".

Now, back to the big storm ....

Sounds like a whole bunch of deflection for the murder of an American citizen, to me.

Medics were NOT there immediately. There was, to my mind, a significant delay before anyone goes to see if Alex was OK. Why couldn't one of the ICE people who were there have gone to Alex's aid immediately instead of backing off, guns out as if expecting more gunshots when they knew they themselves were the only ones who were shooting. I had thought all of the ICE people would have received basic first aid training. I had thought that even if Alex was mortally wounded he may not have been dead and someone with humanity could have been there with him, perhaps held his hand as he died so he did not die alone. So uncivilised, heartless and ungracious. On one of the vids I saw you can hear a bystander saying 'you've shot him, you've shot him' so it wasn't as if the ICE people who were there, but not in the skirmish, had no inkling of what had happened.

 

[charliethecat]

Did anyone see Pretti approach officers brandishing a 9mm gun? Seriously asking.

No of course not.

 

[Charlot123]

"The two federal immigration agents who fired on Minneapolis protester Alex Pretti are identified in government records as Border Patrol agent Jesus Ochoa and Customs and Border Protection officer Raymundo Gutierrez."

Ochoa is a Border Patrol agent who joined CBP in 2018. Gutierrez joined in 2014 and works for CBP’s Office of Field Operations. He is assigned to a special response team, which conducts high-risk operations like those of police SWAT units.

Two CBP Agents Identified in Alex Pretti Shooting

The two federal immigration agents who fired on Minneapolis protester Alex Pretti are identified in government records as Border Patrol agent Jesus Ochoa and Customs and Border Protection officer Raymundo Gutierrez.

www.propublica.org

https://twitter.com/x/status/2018071645538091083

You know, I would wait till all six names are released. Not all agents were Latinos and the whole group is at fault. Someone started sharing their photos online; one looks AI-generated from Pretti's photo. I want any other source to confirm their names. The whole group of agents is at fault IMO.

 

[Friday Fan]

You know, I would wait till all six names are released. Not all agents were Latinos and the whole group is at fault. Someone started sharing their photos online; one looks AI-generated from Pretti's photo. I want any other source to confirm their names. The whole group of agents is at fault IMO.

Someone zoomed in on one the shooters. He did look Latino and he was kinda short with a slighter frame.

Also there were some badge/tag numbers on two of their backs and one had a Texas flag on the back.

I wonder if they determined who they were by those numbers?

 

[charliethecat]

My opinion, this is an important point. It isn't the right of a person to interfere with Federal authorities who are engaged in legal operations in the United States. To attempt to obstruct is dangerous, and to arm up and do so is insanity.

Those who perpetuate the idea that it's ok to do so are contributing to the madness. My opinion.

Filming or following at a distance, or blowing whistles or calling out or shouting even if they are not nice words, are not interfering with Federal Authorities.

 

[LAborn]

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/29/us/video/ac360-woman-who-recorded-shooting-of-alex-pretti-through-car-windshield-speaks-out

Great eye witness account from woman who videotaped through her windshield (the murder happened directly in front of her), speaks about before, during and after the shooting. Brave, articulate young woman.

 

[Inthedetails]

Meanwhile in Oregon:

The mayor of Portland, Oregon, demanded US Immigration and Customs Enforcement leave his city after federal agents launched teargas at a crowd of demonstrators – including young children – outside an ICE facility during a weekend protest that he and others characterized as peaceful.....

“To those who continue to work for ICE: resign. To those who control this facility: leave,” [Mayor] Wilson wrote in a statement on Saturday night. “Through your use of violence and the trampling of the Constitution, you have lost all legitimacy and replaced it with shame.”

Portland mayor demands ICE leave city after federal agents teargas protesters

Witnesses say protest outside ICE facility was peaceful until agents deployed teargas and rubber bullets around children

www.theguardian.com

 

[Inthedetails]

More than 150 bishops of the Episcopal Church urged the suspension of immigration raids in Minnesota and “any community where militarized enforcement has endangered residents or destroyed public trust.”

“We call on the elected officials of our nation to remember the values we share, including the rule of law,” part of the statement read.

“Rooted in our Constitution, it ensures that law — not the arbitrary will of individuals — governs us all, protecting individual rights, ensuring fairness, and maintaining stability.”

154 Bishops Call for End to ICE Raids - The Living Church

In "A Letter to Our Fellow Americans," the bishops emphasized the power of justice, courage and hope, asking "Whose dignity matters?"

livingchurch.org

 

[charliethecat]

This is a good question, as literally millions of people were out and about that day, many in the vicinity of Federal Immigration operations, but it's these 2 who garnered special attention.

I'm saying if you're legally or otherwise armed and insert yourself in to any LE operation, you're a fool.

What say you are there just observing, filming from your phone and then see someone near you affected by tear gas? Say you are a nurse and by training and by oath you happen to know a bit more than the layperson about what to do. Do you stand back and say to yourself 'Oh stuff them, I'm all right, I'll just stand by and not do anything' or do you say to yourself 'There are dangers to people with random application of tear gas so I'll go to help her out of the way....'. I'm pretty sure your nursing training will quickly and automatically override any idea of being a silent observer. I'm also prety sure that even for many people who are not nursing trained their instinct is to go forward to get someone out of harm's way. It is this instinct of going forward to help that actually is the stuff of bravery awards in times of war, the awarding of the Military Cross etc.

It is sad you decry the actions of brave people going to help others. I am not sure that what the ICE officers were doing in that street could in any way shape or form be classed as a LE operation. It did not look as if they were door knocking to arrest overstayers. It looked from the footage we see to be incredibly heavily armed seemingly out of control para military force moving in a street in a show of force. These things such as shows of force belong in war theatres not city or suburban streets. The key question to ask is 'would the world have come to an end had these heavily armed people not decided to make a show of force in this street?' The only answer is no....the show of force was probably not justified in the broader scheme of things.

 

[sds71]

ICE halts "all movement" at Texas detention facility due to measles infections

The measles cases at the Dilley Immigration Processing Center were detected Friday, Department of Homeland Security spokesperson Tricia McLaughlin said in a statement to CBS News.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[charliethecat]

What to know about ICE operations in Texas

The Trump administration is going all in on accelerating mass deportation efforts. Here’s how ICE operations look in Texas, home to an estimated 2 million undocumented immigrants.

www.texastribune.org

They are operating in Texas and many other places that don't get the attention that Minneapolis is getting. This article says state and local authorities are assisting ICE in Texas, so I think it's possible they aren't getting attention there because ICE is able to operate, make arrests, and move on.

IMO

Or maybe ICE agents there are not overwrought people acting in their own real life Call of Duty video game. Maybe they carefully investigate, call on people in small groups or pairs, act politely......there could be all manner of differences in approach. Texas has probably got LE who are familar with immigration and that many overstayers are not criminals in the usual sense of the word. (Some are and let's get them out quickly but a six year old boy???)

The fact that a Supreme Court (?) judge has paid particular attention to the poor ways that ICE has been operating in Minneapolis may tell us something too.

 

[Inthedetails]

Vigil for Alex outside the Minneapolis VA Hospital today.

List of ICE raids, major updates in Minnesota on Sunday, Feb. 1 - Bring Me The News

The latest developments from the federal government's continued operation.

bringmethenews.com

 

[Inthedetails]

ICE halts "all movement" at Texas detention facility due to measles infections

The measles cases at the Dilley Immigration Processing Center were detected Friday, Department of Homeland Security spokesperson Tricia McLaughlin said in a statement to CBS News.

www.cbsnews.com

From the link: The ICE facility houses parents and children taken into federal custody over alleged violations of immigration law.

Thinking of little Liam who looked sick on his trip back to Minnesota today. And, of course, all the other little ones who are NOT AT HOME but possibly sick in a dentention center.

jmo

 

[zleuther]

Judge Biery's release order for Liam...

https://archive.is/20260131233012/https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/01/31/us/31nat-liam-court-order-doc.html

...is meant to be savored by those who''ve never outgrown the curiosity of a child, so it's best that everybody just check it out in its entirety, above. But check this out right now please.

At the very bottom, I lookup/paste the verse in it's entirety...

Jesus wept.