MEDICAL EXAMINER RULES ALEX PRETTI DEATH A HOMICIDE -1 - dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US Jan 24, 2026

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Curious! Now that Alex Pretti is a confirmed homicide, will our current administration pursue or support charges? Do republicans support this, or do they have an adequate defense for this? Or is an ICU nurse being murdered by ICE agents just one of those consequences people should accept with our current government? Should we expect the same if we exercise our right to protest?
I think most of us understood that his death would be classified as homicide. There’s a difference between homicide and murder. imo

Homicide is a neutral term for the killing of one human being by another. By itself, the label does not imply that a crime has occurred or that anyone is at fault. It is the broad category under which all other forms of killing fall, both lawful and unlawful. A coroner, for instance, might rule a death a homicide to indicate it was caused by another person, but this is a medical finding, not a legal judgment.

Homicide is a general classification. Murder and manslaughter are specific types of criminal homicide. However, not all homicides are criminal, as some are considered lawful. For this reason, it is important not to assume guilt from the term alone.
 
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Yeah. We agree. I don't think either of us is wrong.

The system* is being abused by unnecessary and unreasonable arrests and detentions.

The abusers of the system shouldn't do that.

But the system needs enforceable protections against that abuse, such as by holding arresters accountable for having too high a percentage of arrestees just get released again. Also, the system should not allow quotas for arrests, because it encourages wasteful arrests.

Abusing a system is wrong, but if a system is regularly abused, some rules of engagement with it have to be enforced. The system has to protect itself.

MOO

*not to mention the arrested persons
Welp, that lawyer is gone so now. BBM:


A government lawyer who told a judge that her job “sucks” during a court hearing stemming from the Trump administration’s immigration enforcement surge in Minnesota has been removed from her Justice Department post, according to a person familiar with the matter....

Le was assigned at least 88 cases in less than a month, according to online court records. ICE officials have said the surge in Minnesota has become its largest-ever immigration operation since ramping up in early January. Several prosecutors have left the U.S. Attorney’s office in Minnesota amid frustration with the immigration enforcement surge and the Justice Department’s response to fatal shootings of two civilians by federal agents.

Blackwell told Le that the volume of cases isn’t an excuse for disregarding court orders. ...

Le said she was working for the Department of Homeland Security as an ICE attorney in immigration court before she “stupidly” volunteered to work the detail in Minnesota. Le told the judge that she wasn’t properly trained for the assignment. She said she wanted to resign from the job but couldn’t get a replacement. ...

Kira Kelley, an attorney who represented two petitioners at the hearing, said the flood of immigration petitions is necessary because “
so many people being detained without any semblance of a lawful basis.”

 
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I think most of us understood that his death would be classified as homicide. There’s a difference between homicide and murder. imo

Homicide is a neutral term for the killing of one human being by another. By itself, the label does not imply that a crime has occurred or that anyone is at fault. It is the broad category under which all other forms of killing fall, both lawful and unlawful. A coroner, for instance, might rule a death a homicide to indicate it was caused by another person, but this is a medical finding, not a legal judgment.

Homicide is a general classification. Murder and manslaughter are specific types of criminal homicide. However, not all homicides are criminal, as some are considered lawful. For this reason, it is important not to assume guilt from the term alone.
The manner of death is a step in the process, not the end of the road. It's a T that needs to be crossed, an I that needs to be dotted.

jmo
 

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