Mel Gibson's latest racist rant

Will you still watch Mel's movies?

  • Yes, his acting or producing is separate from his personal views

    Votes: 58 29.4%
  • No, his behavior turns me off too much

    Votes: 117 59.4%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 22 11.2%

  • Total voters
    197
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If it was over the phone, she has even less of an excuse for the recording. She could've simply hung up. ;)

How does my comment make you nervous? I said he was wrong for what he said & did.

True, she could have hung up but let me tell you, sometimes people in family law court cases are such good actors that the victim or the accuser looks like they are insane when relaying to the court what the other party has done or said. This is when recordings can be used to prove they are telling the truth. Sometimes it is essential to get such evidence simply to protect oneself. This is what I do for a living so I have a lot of first hand knowledge of such cases, unfortunately.
 
Some people record conversations in the context of DV or custody cases, just to prove to the court what they are really being exposed to on a regular basis: Ie., that they are not lying when talking about this person's behavior.
It is illegal in CA to record someone without his or her knowledge except if the court gives you permission in connection with a DV case, but people do it anyhow because the risk of a misdemeanor is sometimes less than the risk of losing a custody battle, for example.
I think some of these people who release these recordings do so because they want the power of public opinion behind them, but others do it to shame their ex simply because they are very angry. I think the latter is the case with Alec Baldwin's ex and the famous "Pig" message to his daughter. It was not an illegal recording but why release such a thing when your kid is old enough to be shamed by it? I think Basinger hated her ex more than she loved her child.
I don't know why Gibson's girlfriend released this but I tend to agree with those who questions her motivations. She may not be a great person. Like does tend to attract like. But, it does not excuse his behavior. I could be drunk as he!! or angry as heck and you won't her me saying such things. Vile stuff.

I agree. My dad is an alcoholic and when he would drink, he would say hateful things to my mom. He never laid a hand on her thankfully but his words hurt as bad (worse actually). She didn't try to act like their marriage was wonderful or defend him, but she didn't air her dirty laundry either. My husband and I get into some pretty verbal fights sometimes & what either of us say to each other is between us & stays there. Of course, it's NOTHING like knocking each others' teeth out or anywhere close to things Mel Gibson has said. But even if it were, it's no one else's business.
 
It's more that she felt the need to release those recordings. If she felt safe somehow having them for any future legal proceedings, that's one thing. But that doesn't seem the case now does it, since a tabloid released them. $$$$$

It could be both. Victims are not always good people but that does not necessarily make them less of a victim, ya' know? But I agree that if this woman released this recording to the public for money, that's unnecessary and not helpful. I would probably drop a client who did such a thing. You want to come into these cases without any thing that could detract from your reputation.
 
I heard (and I emphasize that word) that the tape release did not come from her. Mel's a washed up nutter and the boys from South Park nailed him a while ago.

I loathe him with every fiber of my being. I hope he never works again.
 
It could be both. Victims are not always good people but that does not necessarily make them less of a victim, ya' know? But I agree that if this woman released this recording to the public for money, that's unnecessary and not helpful. I would probably drop a client who did such a thing. You want to come into these cases without any thing that could detract from your reputation.


True enough. I guess I just have a problem with people secrety recording someone and then letting the world hear. That's what it boils down to for me. Maybe I'm wrong for my OPINION on that, but it's how I feel. If she had turned it over to her lawyer or DA, that would have been entirely different. Of course, I don't know, as no one else here does, what her true intentions were, so I may change my mind later.
 
I heard (and I emphasize that word) that the tape release did not come from her. Mel's a washed up nutter and the boys from South Park nailed him a while ago.

I loathe him with every fiber of my being. I hope he never works again.

Yeah, Southpark's rendition of him was pretty darn funny. By the way, how did you hear that? It is certainly very possible. When you are talking about high profile cases, a police officer or law clerk, just about anyone with access, may set aside their ethics if the money is good enough. That's sad because now Mel's ex may be facing hits to her reputation that are totally unwarranted.
 
Thanks for the link, but I think I've heard all I want to hear.

I just think the whole thing's really sad.

I wish he had just grown older gracefully, like Paul Newman or Sean Connery, or any number of actors I have enjoyed and admired.

Goodbye, Mel Gibson- it turns out we hardly knew you.

(~I love being melodramatic in cases like this. I just made myself get teary-eyed, lol)! :crazy:
 
Very sad that Mel has such public problems. And severe ones. Should serve to show all of us that money doesn't buy happiness. It usually just results in more stress and strife. I hope that he can find the help he needs before it's too late.
 
I don't think it's alcohol dementia at all. I think he's a twisted, pompous narcissist, the fame and money just magnified it.........I also think he's a woman hating control freak
 
Thank you, exactly! I am NOT defending him or his words, nothing to defend. But why is she baiting him and recording him? I think people that secretly record other people, especially when one person is obviously drunk or having some kind of mental episode, are low down. She did this to bring him down IMO. He's totally wrong for what he said to her & of course for knocking out her teeth (if that's true) but she's wrong for not getting the hell out of there instead of resisting the opportunity to record him. She will get some kind of child support anyway, I don't think him saying such vile things will amount to any extra money for her.

On the tape that is released, she isn't baiting him at all. She sounds very defensive. There is no baiting.
 
WOW :loser:

Sounds like a drunken rage I'm surprised we didn't hear any hitting or breaking stuff, I was waiting for that to come the whole time. Good thing it didn't get that far (at least that I know of).
 
On the tape that is released, she isn't baiting him at all. She sounds very defensive. There is no baiting.

No need in getting an attitude w/ me. It's my opinion, nothing more.

ETA: It's also my opinion that he's an a-hole of the highest order. It seems that just because I see no need in her taping him and allowing it to be released that it excuses his behavior. He's a mean 🤬🤬🤬 drunk, she should avoid him and any contact with him.
 
To be honest, I was never fan of his work. Conspiracy Theory was ok, though. And I own The Passion because (1) when you do the Jewish image in film you kind of have to, and (2) it was pretty cool to see spoken Aramaic in a movie, I must admit.

But, luckily, I didn't buy it - it was a gift. So, this is one Jew's money old Mel didn't benefit from, and I don't imagine he'll ever see another dime from me.
 
I'm with you mgardner. He scares me. I feel for his kids.

Problem with people like Gibson is they get away with so much because of their perceived power. People won't stand up to them. You add alcohol abuse to the situation and you have a recipe for disaster.

He has ruined his career. His talent agency dropped him and I doubt anyone will ever give him the financing to make another move. Even if he pays for it himself he won't get the support he needs to distribute it.

I don't blame her one bit for recording this. Now the real Mel Gibson emerges for all to see.

BBM

Not in North America, but I believe he made a killing on The Passion in the overseas market, so he can always find a distributor in Iran, etc., and he can likely recoup his production costs there.
 
I could have sworn I heard it on one of those trashy CNN? HLN? celeb shows. I wish i could remember which one. I am going to see if I can chase it down.

If I was a virtual nobody being abused by some rich, bigoted psycho I would record whatever I had to just in case I needed that proof to keep them the hell away from my kid. It blows my mind that he knocked her teeth out. WHO does that kind of stuff? (Psycho-Bigot-Monsters) One thing that I thought was really scary is when he says he is going to come burn down the house but first she has to ---- him. What a degrading thing to hurl at the mother of your child, on top of everything else. Like, first I am going to demoralize you and then I am going to kill you. He reminds me of about ten thousand people we discuss on here all day...

I bet this is the tip of the big, crazy fecal iceberg. Get ready.

This is kinda interesting:
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But the nature of the violence changed in the three films Gibson directed himself. Each of the movies - Braveheart, The Passion of the Christ, and Apocalypto - was gut-wrenchingly violent. The films all have a special vision of innocent men, noble or political or religious icons - Gibson himself in Braveheart, or his stand-ins in the Christ and Apocalypto films - who are set upon by tyrants or factotums or sadists who torture and martyr the Gibson figure.

Let's play psychoanalyst for a bit. Here is a man who feels his anger is justified by the forces that beset him, such as wayward cops (especially Jewish ones) and Jezebel-like mistresses (Gibson is recorded telling Oksana, "You ****ing deserved it!" when she accuses him of hitting her) - just like William Wallace and Jesus were. Gibson then portrays his heroes' suffering in loving, lingering, graphic detail.

What else is a man to do when he is assailed by evil forces like these - other than strike out at them? And that's a wrap. But why did audiences - including often film critics and religious leaders - jump on the self-pitying violence bandwagon Gibson was driving?

As an actor, Gibson has always displayed an appealing innocence and sensitivity while brutalizing deserving villains. But his ability to lure audiences into his depictions of violence - to revel in them - escalated in the films he directed. His success was most notable in The Passion of the Christ - which reaped praise from religious figures, even liberal ones. This film was the basis for Gibson's selection as Time Magazine's Man of the Year (along with Michael Moore!) in 2004.

In retrospect, however, Gibson's Christ now looks like a cinematic expression of psychopathology.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/addiction-in-society/201007/was-mel-gibson-always-violent-psychopath

I only liked him in Signs, The Patriot and Braveheart. I did enjoy the Leonard Cohen piece he did as well. I thought the rest of it was homogenized crap.
 
I could have sworn I heard it on one of those trashy CNN? HLN? celeb shows. I wish i could remember which one. I am going to see if I can chase it down.

If I was a virtual nobody being abused by some rich, bigoted psycho I would record whatever I had to just in case I needed that proof to keep them the hell away from my kid. It blows my mind that he knocked her teeth out. WHO does that kind of stuff? (Psycho-Bigot-Monsters) One thing that I thought was really scary is when he says he is going to come burn down the house but first she has to ---- him. What a degrading thing to hurl at the mother of your child, on top of everything else. Like, first I am going to demoralize you and then I am going to kill you. He reminds me of about ten thousand people we discuss on here all day...

I bet this is the tip of the big, crazy fecal iceberg. Get ready.

This is kinda interesting:


I only liked him in Signs, The Patriot and Braveheart. I did enjoy the Leonard Cohen piece he did as well. I thought the rest of it was homogenized crap.

That's a great quote. The Passion certainly shows major sadomasochistic tendencies, IMO. A long, drawn-out snuff film, with far too much obsessive concentration on the pain and suffering, and the blood and beating. Lovingly filmed, in a way. It's rather awkward to watch.

On a similar note, anyone ever see the South Park episode on Mel? Pretty hilarious.
 
That's a great quote. The Passion certainly shows major sadomasochistic tendencies, IMO. A long, drawn-out snuff film, with far too much obsessive concentration on the pain and suffering, and the blood and beating. Lovingly filmed, in a way. It's rather awkward to watch.

On a similar note, anyone ever see the South Park episode on Mel? Pretty hilarious.


Watch a brief clip here:

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/154469

It's funnier every time I see it.

* Is it working or am I crazy. CRAZY LIKE MEL!
 
I haven't watched one of his movies in years. Not so much because of his attitude, I fell out of enjoying the genre his movies tend to cater to.

Mel has a few unfortunate things going for himself, one being is that he was diagnosed bi-polar. He's also obviously self medicating with alcohol. Alcohol is a big no no for anyone who suffers any type of depressive/manic disorder. Especially if you are medicated. Alcohol and psychiatric medications do not mix. That being said, I'm not excusing his behavior at all.

As I often do with people who suffer from mental illness, I only wish he would get the help for himself that he needs. The pain he is inflicting on his families is immense. His tirades remind me of the homeless obviously mentally ill alcoholic who used to run around my childhood neighborhood. He sounded exactly like Mel does.
 
IMO - Mel Gibson is done.

It seems he is sick. Mentally ill and its getting worse. Whether or not he was "raised" with that kind of "racist mentality" (father) really just aided in his downfall. The alcohol didn't help either.

Word on the streets is he's done in Hollywood. Blacklisted. He's on location right now filming - but whatcha wanna bet they probably wish they could fire him right now? It will be his last film - other than he, himself financing the entire project - which he probably won't have the money to do anymore real soon.

I hope he gets the help he needs. Ya know what that rant kinda reminded me of? Someone with tourrettes - except instead of "cussin' and swearin' " he goes on with racist comments (very nasty racist comments at that).

I won't watch any of his movies. I pity him right now (and my heart goes out to his baby girl, along with his other children) - he needs serious help.
 
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