Melissa Huckaby, Suspect- thread #2

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  • #401
I know a few of these things have already been discussed, but lets try a rehash, because I am just simply not buying a woman who has two previous arrests for pretty much petty theft turned into a child killer and her is why. Early on it was made very public about the Tracy 60 many search warrents were issued 15 if I remember correctly, there are 15 members of the church. Sound odd to anyone? Okay then we have the fact that Melissa is the grandaughter of the pastor of this church that has only 15 members and has not had a service since 2007. Then we have a "janitar-caregiver who lives in a 4,000 square foot house, getting paid doing work for a church that doesn't hold services in over a year? sound odd? Then you have two people that could have possably seen FW at the pond, one who claims to have seen someone looking like him in a boat, another being a police cadet who sees a truck similar to the one this caretaker drives, also similar to the truck that drops off a note at the memerial. Another thing, Police have said they do not expect any more arrests in "THIS PARTICULAR CASE . First off I dont beleive it, I think they are saying that for the others involved to let down their gaurd. I am in no way saying that Melissa is not involved, because I beleive she is in someway, she practically handed herself over to police. I think the church is a cover for something else like the Tracy 60 that way reported early on.

I see it like this, let the "crazy woman take the fall"
She sees it like this, if I abmit to this I claim being crazy and I'll go to a mental health facility and get out in a few months.
The cops are saying "we got our person" so others let down their gaurd give them enough rope they will hang themselves get everyone focused on Melissa and the rest will go back to their "business" and they get caught red Handed.

Now everything I have just posted is my own opinion, and I rarely post responces like this on here so please be kind , LOL
 
  • #402
In the San Francisco Chronicle article I posted earlier today, the first few words says it all.

"She was a loving mother to her ailing child ..."

Bolstered by this: "Huckaby lives with her grandparents because she suffers from severe allergies and wanted relatives' help to be able to have more time "to take better care of her daughter, who is super-thin and gets sick a lot," Browning said. She was named "class mother" of her daughter's preschool, friends said."

The better to poison the little ones: "Neighbors said the only thing that struck them as odd about Huckaby was that instead of sending her child over to other kids' houses to play, she always insisted on playmates coming to her house."

I think she was slowly poisoning her own child and tried out some new potion on Sandra. I do think she suffers from Munchausens Syndrome in combination with some other severe psychological ailments. It's very very sad.
 
  • #403
.....I agree,butterfly....
 
  • #404
From this article, it looks like MH was working hard to get child support out of the father of her 5 year old. Had we heard about any ties MH might have had to Topkea?

"A Topeka man may be able to provide some answers for law enforcement investigating the California woman who was arrested Saturday for allegedly killing an 8-year-old girl and stuffing her into a suitcase."

http://www.cjonline.com/news/2009-04-12/accused_calif_mom_has_area_ties

I've asked this before but now with the link to Kansas I really need someone to take a look at this and see what you think.
http://www.myspace.com/msmel2u
Note the Tracy and Kansas locations and the title of "I can't believe someone would do that to a child".
What do you guys think? TIA

ETA: Also the name Miss Melissa like what you would be called if you were a sunday school teacher.
 
  • #405
I think she drugged her then got afraid she would tell and put her in the suite case still alive and dumped her,I can't believe this child died in the hands of someone she trusted.

She was killed shortly after she was taken between 4 and 8. Also they believe she was killed at the church so she wouldn't have gone into the water alive.
 
  • #406
It wasn't great-grandmother Connie that went away on a trip with Melissa's 5 year old daughter the day after Sandra went missing - it was Melissa's mother, Judy, who took the 5 year old away; on an already planned vacation. I still want to know where the 5 year old was the DAY Sandra went missing.
 
  • #407
From the ultrasound photo on the Peek You profile it looks like Amanda and Johnny had a child in March of 2008.

Good sleuthing, FFF.

Thanks for all the links, btw. I'm wondering what the babys name is???
 
  • #408
Good sleuthing, FFF.

Thanks for all the links, btw. I'm wondering what the babys name is???

I haven't come across the baby's name. Anyone good at looking up birth records? I'm wondering if Melissa became very bitter when she found out Johnny was having another child when he didn't pay child support for their own daughter. Could this be when she hired the Topeka attorney and began the fight for money? Is it possible she could have somehow began to resent her own daughter or being a single mother at this point?
 
  • #409
Respectfully asked- Should this matter? This man, Melissa's ex and father of her 5 year old, and his new wife have moved on and made a new life together. Their child is a minor, a baby. Do we have the right or need to intrude on their life in another state?

I would think this man has probably suffered enough dealing with Melissa, and probably worrying about his daughter too.
If knowing is relevant, would someone please tell me why so I will know in the future? :)

Thank you.
:blowkiss:
 
  • #410
Was Melissa's five year old daughter in school yet?

Also, I thought we found out the caretaker lived in another MHP, not the 4000ft home.

Just trying to catch up. TIA
 
  • #411
http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/Story?id=7321954&page=2

I posted this in the media thread. There are some comments made within this article about MH and her history. Not much there but interesting enough to note. I will snip the pertinent info, it's a 3 page article.

...Brian Lawless, said that his daughter had often struggled with raising a child on her own and had sometimes suffered from bouts of depression. She'd also been in trouble with the law...

..."I have no doubt in mind she knows right from wrong," her grandfather, Clove Road Baptist Church pastor Lane Lawless, said...


...Huckaby, who grew up in California's Orange County, as the oldest of nine grandchildren, and said she often played "mother hen" to the younger children at family get-togethers...

...Married and divorced with a young daughter, Huckaby's uncle said she had difficulty finding and keeping a job...

Not much, but a little bit of info.
 
  • #412
Respectfully asked- Should this matter? This man, Melissa's ex and father of her 5 year old, and his new wife have moved on and made a new life together. Their child is a minor, a baby. Do we have the right or need to intrude on their life in another state?

I would think this man has probably suffered enough dealing with Melissa, and probably worrying about his daughter too.
If knowing is relevant, would someone please tell me why so I will know in the future? :)

Thank you.
:blowkiss:

ITA. And I was puzzled why the Topeka article focused so much on Melissa's ex husband's life and finances. He hasn't been in Melissa's life since Melissa was pregnant with their daughter. I thought it was a bit much and overstepping.
 
  • #413
Respectfully asked- Should this matter? This man, Melissa's ex and father of her 5 year old, and his new wife have moved on and made a new life together. Their child is a minor, a baby. Do we have the right or need to intrude on their life in another state?

I would think this man has probably suffered enough dealing with Melissa, and probably worrying about his daughter too.
If knowing is relevant, would someone please tell me why so I will know in the future? :)

Thank you.
:blowkiss:

Jana- I was leaning against posting this info at first. I was thinking the same as you that her ex had moved on so it's kind of irrelevant. But then I thought that this IS a significant part of MH's recent family dynamics. All within the last 6 years Melissa became pregnant...married John...had their child...went through a divorce...John gets remarried...has another child...now MH's daughter has a 1/2 sibling...John is not involved with MH's daughter...and MH legally seeks child support money...MH and JH both are in medical financial debt. These are all life-changing events that happened in such a short period of time. It's possible that it can explain some of Melissa's mental state. If nothing else it at least shows that she had very high levels of stess in her life.

But thank you for the reminder that it's easy to go off on tangents that aren't important. I agree that the name of JH and AH's child is not important and the search into their lives probably shouldn't go much further.
 
  • #414
I agree FFF. As curious as I am about this subject I just don't feel right about bringing another innocent child into this whole mess. I felt repulsed this morning when I read the name of Melissa's 5 year old was published on FOX news. Why would they do this? This poor child will suffer repercussions of her mother's crimes for the rest of her life. Poor Sandra has been murdered by her mom. The effects of MH's crimes are far reaching. This is just so sad.
 
  • #415
In the San Francisco Chronicle article I posted earlier today, the first few words says it all.

"She was a loving mother to her ailing child ..."

Bolstered by this: "Huckaby lives with her grandparents because she suffers from severe allergies and wanted relatives' help to be able to have more time "to take better care of her daughter, who is super-thin and gets sick a lot," Browning said. She was named "class mother" of her daughter's preschool, friends said."

The better to poison the little ones: "Neighbors said the only thing that struck them as odd about Huckaby was that instead of sending her child over to other kids' houses to play, she always insisted on playmates coming to her house."

I think she was slowly poisoning her own child and tried out some new potion on Sandra. I do think she suffers from Munchausens Syndrome in combination with some other severe psychological ailments. It's very very sad.

it will be interesting to see what the autopsy reveals. it could be also that Sandra shared something with her daughter that was tainted (a drink or food)?
 
  • #416
I was also a bit uncomfortable with even discussing MH's ex- and his new family, but it may become more relevant in the near future. I find it a bit odd that since the father of MH's 5 year old has not been involved in her life at all, he and his new wife now are taking care of the little girl. Why didn't MH's parents take her? The dynamics between MH and her own mother and father are going to be key to this, and the fact that they are not now assuming care of their granddaughter is also of great interest to me.
 
  • #417
I still don't buy it. I could be wrong, but she and I have disagreed before on another case (only lately tho...we used to nevah disagree. :( I guess I have gone rogue.)

;) Ya' Think?

Su:takeoff:san:takeoff:
 
  • #418
I'm curious If MH's daughter was questioned early on by LE. After all, she was the little friend Sandra was going to visit. Forgive my ignorance here but I have wondered about this and how does LE go about questioning a 5 year old. I hope that whoever the adults are with custody of her makes sure that she receives counseling, she may need it for a long time, sad to say. JMO
 
  • #419
There is a possibility that Sandra saw something that MH had to cover up... but personally, I lean towards the accidental poisoning theory.

Poor sweet child.
 
  • #420
(snipped for space by TGIR)
I see it like this, let the "crazy woman take the fall"
She sees it like this, if I abmit to this I claim being crazy and I'll go to a mental health facility and get out in a few months...

...Now everything I have just posted is my own opinion, and I rarely post responces like this on here so please be kind , LOL

Interesting thoughts...

She was already in some legal trouble, and there could be more we don't know about, so maybe she knew she was going to have to go to a psych hopsital anyway. Maybe someone threatened to rat on her for more criminal acts if she doesn't take the fall.

Susan
 
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