Meredith Kercher murdered-Amanda Knox appeals conviction #10

[flourish]

Perhaps you will find this entertaining: Italian MP's controversial book about Foxy Knoxy reads like a romance novel and reveals his bizarre dreams about the killer

"He writes: 'In my hand she places her pink iPod, which plays incessantly The Beatles. I hesitate. I look at it. Then I look at her.

She tells me 'This is a gift for you,' looking straight into my eyes.'

Breathlessly Mr Girlanda, 45, an MP with ruling Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi's People of Freedom Party, adds: 'The conversation continues, until I wake up...I realise my taxi ride with Amanda was just a dream.

'It is not the first dream in which Amanda appears. It will not be the last.'

Later he writes how Knox asked if she could hug him and perhaps unwisely for an MP, he lets her: 'A hug, a request that I don't expect. I blush. She holds me, I hold her. It's a never ending embrace, without a word.

'If I said I didn't feel any emotion I would be lying. Maybe my face reveals that.'


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...da-Knox-like-romance-novel.html#ixzz1InO8wtOX

Wow, creepy!

 

[Allusonz]

Never left, just been lurking b/c I got tired of being part of the merry-go-'round...don't worry, though, our wine is aging in my cellar as we speak, and I've put out an order for designer straight-jackets for all regular posters on this thread, as, although Allusonz and I need ours NOW, I'm pretty sure we're ALL gonna need them eventually, as this case is enough to drive anyone completely INSANE :crazy: :crazy:

Not to be OT, though, I will thank "wasn't me" for answering my question so promptly...LOL, now that will be one little thing that won't drive me crazy Also, I'd like to offer a belated "welcome to the thread" to "wasn't me," too

Also, I agree with Otto on the reduction of RG's sentence, both the math and the reasoning.

And I did have a question perhaps someone can answer for me. About the rent money--am I correct that FR collected the rent monies or did MK? Where exactly was the money and was it indeed missing after the murder and alleged burglary? TIA ya'll

Oh good. When wasn't started to threaten playing with her fingernails I figured I would have to find another straight jacket :floorlaugh:

Along with the wine, in Perugia, and terrific company of course, plus you are the only one that gets my quirky sense of humour rofl

 

[otto]

Never left, just been lurking b/c I got tired of being part of the merry-go-'round...don't worry, though, our wine is aging in my cellar as we speak, and I've put out an order for designer straight-jackets for all regular posters on this thread, as, although Allusonz and I need ours NOW, I'm pretty sure we're ALL gonna need them eventually, as this case is enough to drive anyone completely INSANE :crazy: :crazy:

Not to be OT, though, I will thank "wasn't me" for answering my question so promptly...LOL, now that will be one little thing that won't drive me crazy Also, I'd like to offer a belated "welcome to the thread" to "wasn't me," too

Also, I agree with Otto on the reduction of RG's sentence, both the math and the reasoning.

And I did have a question perhaps someone can answer for me. About the rent money--am I correct that FR collected the rent monies or did MK? Where exactly was the money and was it indeed missing after the murder and alleged burglary? TIA ya'll

I read somewhere that Meredith tried to give the rent money to Filomina on Nov 1, but Filomina didn't accept it because she didn't want the money until the day that she paid it. I'm guessing that would have been on Nov 3. Meredith had the money in her drawer in her bedroom. One of Rudy's stories is that Meredith was upset with Amanda because her rent money was missing. The money was missing after the murder.

 

[Allusonz]

The substance was tested for blood using chemicals that are more sensitive to blood. The court concluded that it was most likely haematic substance, and not juice.

That is the Courts option. Whether they are right or not is a different thing. As for being haematic in nature that could be iron in soil. Did you realize that?

 

[Allusonz]

A sky view can't give you an accurate determination of what's seen at street level. I put a several pictures in thread 9 proving that FR's window is secluded. It seems a waste to have to go pull them back out for you, but a true representation of what people can see isn't going to be discerned from an ariel photo or a zoomed in photo like your second one. In the second one, just look how close you have to be to the rail to look down to see.

Must agree here a sky view in this particular circumstance is useless IMO

 

[Allusonz]

I read somewhere that Meredith tried to give the rent money to Filomina on Nov 1, but Filomina didn't accept it because she didn't want the money until the day that she paid it. I'm guessing that would have been on Nov 3. Meredith had the money in her drawer in her bedroom. One of Rudy's stories is that Meredith was upset with Amanda because her rent money was missing. The money was missing after the murder.

I am truly not sure what the point of this is. If RG thought the rent would be there on the first that would be one reason to breakin. Another would be the fact that his rent was due thus he needed money

 

[otto]

Wow, creepy!

Isn't it though. There's another creepy one about a priest, but I haven't come across it yet.

 

[otto]

I deal in facts not dreams

And that creepy Italian politician spent a lot of time with Amanda and then wrote a very creepy book about his dreams and fantasies about her.

 

[Allusonz]

It is not unusual at all for LE to begin suspecting someone based on behavior.

This is very true but lets see the behaviours of sobbing, doing a la mosa movement, and eating pizza to me is simply not enough to arrest someone especially when the forensics had not returned yet

 

[Allusonz]

And that creepy Italian politician spent a lot of time with Amanda and then wrote a very creepy book about his dreams and fantasies about her.

And you blame AK for that? You must be joking? He sounds like he has more issues than she does and truly detracts from this forum

 

[flourish]

This is the guy I'd been referring to, and this statement:


Sollecito's attorneys requested authorization from the Bologna Court of Appeals and sent their legal assistants to videotape Alessi's statement in Viterbo, where he is detained in the same sex crimes section of the prison.



Read more: http://www.seattlepi.com/default/ar...-desperation-in-Knox-887799.php#ixzz1JMGGEj2v

Obviously outilines that he's not in the same section with RG. thanks!

This is my point, though, with all the right or wrong things being printed, all the lies told by the people directly involved as well as witnesses who want have a part in the case, it is way too hard to descern the truth in the case. That's why citing just becomes important. That way, we can get to at least the facts between what we've read.

Thanks again!

That all sounds great in theory, and in most cases, is simple and realistic to do. However, one problem with that we've had here is that there is a lot of disagreement about what is considered a RELIABLE, VALID source. So, while I agree citations are an awesome thing, it's still challenging on this thread/this case. I think we try our best, though, and I'm amazed at all of the work the posters do, on both sides of the fence.

 

[otto]

That is the Courts option. Whether they are right or not is a different thing. As for being haematic in nature that could be iron in soil. Did you realize that?

Again ... I have to wonder why luminol evidence is ever considered by the courts since in this particular case the science of luminol seems to be too faulty to indicate anything.

 

[Allusonz]

Never left, just been lurking b/c I got tired of being part of the merry-go-'round...don't worry, though, our wine is aging in my cellar as we speak, and I've put out an order for designer straight-jackets for all regular posters on this thread, as, although Allusonz and I need ours NOW, I'm pretty sure we're ALL gonna need them eventually, as this case is enough to drive anyone completely INSANE :crazy: :crazy:

Not to be OT, though, I will thank "wasn't me" for answering my question so promptly...LOL, now that will be one little thing that won't drive me crazy Also, I'd like to offer a belated "welcome to the thread" to "wasn't me," too

Also, I agree with Otto on the reduction of RG's sentence, both the math and the reasoning.

And I did have a question perhaps someone can answer for me. About the rent money--am I correct that FR collected the rent monies or did MK? Where exactly was the money and was it indeed missing after the murder and alleged burglary? TIA ya'll

FR collected the rent monies from the documentation that I have read

 

[Allusonz]

Again ... I have to wonder why luminol evidence is ever considered by the courts since in this particular case the science of luminol seems to be too faulty to indicate anything.

Luminol is a forensic tool. Like any tool it can be used wisely or abused

 

[SMK]

I read somewhere that Meredith tried to give the rent money to Filomina on Nov 1, but Filomina didn't accept it because she didn't want the money until the day that she paid it. I'm guessing that would have been on Nov 3. Meredith had the money in her drawer in her bedroom. One of Rudy's stories is that Meredith was upset with Amanda because her rent money was missing. The money was missing after the murder.

Very well, but Rudy was not above robbing, and he may have taken in, and then pointed the finger at Amanda.

 

[flourish]

And you blame AK for that? You must be joking? He sounds like he has more issues than she does and truly detracts from this forum

I'm not Otto, but I got the impression he was just pointing out this creepy thing, not placing blame on anyone for it. There's really no way for any of us to know why this person had these creepy thoughts and dreams...or if he really did....people have made up weirder things before...

I also didn't interpret the post as saying, "Hey, check out this total fact!" I took it as more of a "Hey, check out this creepy thing, as a side-note!"

FWIW

 

[SMK]

Perhaps you will find this entertaining: Italian MP's controversial book about Foxy Knoxy reads like a romance novel and reveals his bizarre dreams about the killer

"He writes: 'In my hand she places her pink iPod, which plays incessantly The Beatles. I hesitate. I look at it. Then I look at her.

She tells me 'This is a gift for you,' looking straight into my eyes.'

Breathlessly Mr Girlanda, 45, an MP with ruling Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi's People of Freedom Party, adds: 'The conversation continues, until I wake up...I realise my taxi ride with Amanda was just a dream.

'It is not the first dream in which Amanda appears. It will not be the last.'

Later he writes how Knox asked if she could hug him and perhaps unwisely for an MP, he lets her: 'A hug, a request that I don't expect. I blush. She holds me, I hold her. It's a never ending embrace, without a word.

'If I said I didn't feel any emotion I would be lying. Maybe my face reveals that.'


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...da-Knox-like-romance-novel.html#ixzz1InO8wtOX

Oh, dear.

 

[Allusonz]

And that creepy Italian politician spent a lot of time with Amanda and then wrote a very creepy book about his dreams and fantasies about her.

Again, I simply dont see what purpose this presents to this discussion. I am still trying to figure out how in prison she has all this time to do all these things with all these people that she is being accused of. And many of these are regular people trying to make a decent living. It appears to be deflection again

 

[Allusonz]

Please explain where I am confused or wrong...
according to Italian Code of Criminal Procedure:
*(Fast-track trial) The defendant is rewarded with a reduction on the sentence. The law states that this reduction is one third. If the crime was punishable by life imprisonment, the defendant will be sentenced to thirty years.

Rudy's sentence was reduced from a life sentence to 30 years in his first appeal (not at the end of all of his appeals).
Unless someone can show me in the Motivation Report where it says Rudy's sentence was reduced a third due to the fast track, then I still stand by what we discussed here: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125994&page=32


*SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Criminal_Procedure#Fast-track_trial

Miley have missed your posts!!!! Great to see you back

 

[Malkmus]

Again ... I have to wonder why luminol evidence is ever considered by the courts since in this particular case the science of luminol seems to be too faulty to indicate anything.

Luminol only tells you where blood might be. The Luminol test is always followed by a TMB test to determine if it's blood. The TMB tests in this case were negative. I know you already know this, Otto, but the way you keep talking about it you give off the impression that anytime Luminol lights up it means there has to have been blood. One very enlightening thing I saw in the video of the innocence panel the other day was when Steve Moore pointed out that not only were the footprints illuminated by the Luminol, but so were all the cracks in between the tiles. Otto, what do you think is responsible for reacting with the Luminol that is present around the tiles? Keep in mind that the tiles are completely surrounded in whatever substance is causing it.