Meredith Kercher murdered-Amanda Knox appeals conviction #10

[wasnt_me]

Who took pictures of the cottage in the morning before the murder was discovered?

My guess would be the cameraman.

Wait. Is this a real question? Who said pictures were taken before?

 

[wasnt_me]

Did you see a deaf woman in the video I linked and, if so, why wasn't that Ciolino guy talking a little louder?

I don't know what you're talking about, sorry.

 

[wasnt_me]

No, it doesn't. If Amanda wants to go to Italy, then Amanda has to live by the laws, culture and customs of Italy. Anyone that has traveled in Italy has probably encountered the little bit more high strung, passionate, talking louder, demanding good-natured Italian culture.

Police everywhere attempt to coerce witnesses to speak the truth. That's their job.
Police everywhere are impatient with witnesses that have been proven to be liars.
If it's the Italian culture to be more demanding and raising their voices while questioning known liars about a murder investigation, then so be it. Who is Amanda Knox to expect something different? She was the liar known to police ... the woman that lied to police about what she did on the night of the murder; the woman that could not explain herself except with lies upon lies.

So by your logic, anyone, anywhere at any time, ought to know this, be prepared for this and understand that it's just going to happen? And when people say Americans are spoiled, entitled, and obnoxious, all visitors ought to be prepared to be condescended to. And everybody knows all black people like fried chicken, so they should expect that i'm eating some right now.

And Amanda ought to have expected to be treated as guilty before proven so by her interrogators. She should have prepared herself to be srrounded by 15 demanding officers in one interrogation room all night.

She should have packed an overnight bag for RS's house, and she didn't need to take a shower in the morning, either. Im so surprised of all things things people say AK ought to know or have done.

 

[wasnt_me]

MK was killed in MK's room, not in FR's room. We don't know if an open window is a requirement for Nara to hear anything, and we don't even know if anything was open before the murder. You can make all kinds of things up about what should or should not but it is just speculations. The audio test was denied and there are good reasons for that. One of the main factors would be the wind and nobody can tell how the wind was blowing at exactly the moment Nara heard the scream. Nara's testimony was accepted because she came across as reliable and several other witnesses heard something that night just like Nara. There is no reason whatsoever to assume that she just wanted media attention.

Okay and you don't get what I'm saying. Unless you're telling me MK could have been killed with her door closed. In my example, by dogs are usually in the back of the house on the inside. or they are upstairs in my room or the back room. I hear them bark when I am outside in the front if a window is open. Am I still unclear? It doesn't matter what room they are in--except the basement--I hear them barking if a window or door to the house is open. I do not hear them if it is not. If they get extremely loud, I might hear them like a sound on the wind. If you still don't get what I'm saying, nevermind. Go with your theory.

Oh, and by the way, I ain't making crap up. Go study how sound travels.

 

[wasnt_me]

Are you suggesting that Knox was sociopathic and did not have empathy for the fact that Meredith was uncomfortable with her rabbit vibrator dangling in the bathroom and the men she dragged home?

No, I can tell you right now that's not what she said.

 

[sherlockh]

Okay and you don't get what I'm saying. Unless you're telling me MK could have been killed with her door closed. In my example, by dogs are usually in the back of the house on the inside. or they are upstairs in my room or the back room. I hear them bark when I am outside in the front if a window is open. Am I still unclear? It doesn't matter what room they are in--except the basement--I hear them barking if a window or door to the house is open. I do not hear them if it is not. If they get extremely loud, I might hear them like a sound on the wind. If you still don't get what I'm saying, nevermind. Go with your theory.

Oh, and by the way, I ain't making crap up. Go study how sound travels.

No reason to get rude. I get it just fine. You have no idea what was open or closed before the murder, and neither do I. The assumption that FR's shutters had to be open for Nara to hear the scream is total nonsense.

 

[wasnt_me]

What was she oblivious about? Was she oblivious about her mother's second marriage? Her studies? Her job? Her foxy knoxy nickname? Her sexuality on a train, in the rain, in Berlin? What was she oblivious about?

Oh, goodness, those things are not even in the same ballpark as what I think she was oblivious to, but you carry on.

 

[wasnt_me]

Read Amanda's short stories ... if that isn't a troubled soul, nothing is. I especially recommend her winning short story from the prison competition. She uses the alias Marie Pace (that's her middle name with "peace" attached) ... seems to describe the murder ... in a fog, naturally.

Annie Rice, Dean Koontz, stephen king. I guess it goes for them, too.

 

[wasnt_me]

You think police in Italy don't know what a cartwheel is? Do you think they're some kind of backwards medieval town where people don't have TV ... don't watch olympic sports?

Knox went to the police station because she and Raffaele murdered Meredith ... and they were attached at the hip throughout the investigation. Isn't it surprising that Raffaele, who had only known Knox for about 10 days, didn't distance himself from Knox after the murder ... isn't that what most people would do upon discovering that a foreigner they barely knew was being investigated for the murder of a roommate? Raffaele was Italian and here's this woman from Seattle that he hardly knows and she's connected with a murder ... why not clear out until the dust settles? Were they so much in love after 10 days that they couldn't separate, or were they sticking together because they were in it deep?

So sarcasm escapes you, apparently and you know all about exactly what two those should have been doing at that time. Okay, they're guilty! throw out the appeal because there's no way RS would have felt the need to watch out for his GF after her roommate was murdered.

 

[wasnt_me]

No reason to get rude. I get it just fine. You have no idea what was open or closed before the murder, and neither do I. The assumption that FR's shutters had to be open for Nara to hear the scream is total nonsense.

Then don't get rude and tell me I'm making stuff up. seriously. Say it's nonsense if you want but the truth is out there, either way, no matter what you think or what I think.

 

[sherlockh]

Then don't get rude and tell me I'm making stuff up. seriously. Say it's nonsense if you want but the truth is out there, either way, no matter what you think or what I think.

Of course you are making stuff up. Saying that FR's shutters have to be open for Nara to hear the scream is making stuff up. There are plenty of other windows/doors through which the sound could have traveled. MK has a window in her own room, and we can't say for sure about every window or door if they were open or closed during the murder. So implying that FR's shutters had to be open was wrong. The end

 

[flourish]

That's why it's imparative to as best they can, get an impartial jury. I'll bet even an impartial one starts forming an opinion during opening statements. If not, why would opening statements be so important? Repetition is also essential. If you repeat something, even a lie so many times, people will start to use it as a base of reference. Then later, if they're told it's a lie, they don't believe it.

I'll take a really silly example and give you. That Michael Jackson song, "smooth criminal." All these years, I thought Mike was saying "Eddie, are you okay? Eddie, are you okay? Are you okay, Eddie?" So did many people that I know. Well, I was reading the lyrics off it when it was one some dance game my nieces were playing on their Wii. And he really says, "Annie, are you okay. Annie, are you okay? Are you okay, Annie?'

I didn't believe it. I had my sister look it up on the internet. There it was "Annie, are you okay?" I still didn't believe it. I was so disappointed, because it changed the WHOLE meaning of the song for me. Now I have to consider that the song is about the murder of Annie instead of about some gangster named Eddie.

OMG. I just realized this song sounds like this case. I'm so serious, I just made the connection as I was typing. I'm EVEN MORE disillusoned because this song will now forever remind me of MK.

Respectfully snipped, for space.

Um, :thud: I'm trying to respond...I'm just...sort of...speechless... maybe I'll go the SMK route...fftheair:fftheair::shocked2::mummy:
:genie:

 

[flourish]

Exactly! She quickly recanted, said it had not been reliable or true, that it had seemed "unreal like a dream" and should not be trusted. She did NOT "confess".

She should have just said, "That was not intended to be a factual statement."
:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[wasnt_me]

Of course you are making stuff up. Saying that FR's shutters have to be open for Nara to hear the scream is making stuff up. There are plenty of other windows/doors through which the sound could have traveled. MK has a window in her own room, and we can't say for sure about every window or door if they were open or closed during the murder. So implying that FR's shutters had to be open was wrong. The end

of course the end for you. Have at it. You don't have to think what I say makes sense.

 

[wasnt_me]

Respectfully snipped, for space.

Um, :thud: I'm trying to respond...I'm just...sort of...speechless... maybe I'll go the SMK route...fftheair:fftheair::shocked2::mummy:
:genie:

It's your world. do what you gotta do.

 

[wasnt_me]

Reading RS's diary, I'm wondering why this can't be proved. Couldn't his apartment landlord prove some water damage, if it was all that he says it was here?

I don't remember in reality at what time I ate, but certainly I ate
and Amanda ate with me. The questions the agents of the Squadra Mobile
me have made me to remember that that day the water pipe under to sink
was detached and thing I find very suspicious, I've seen that it is
not possible to so detach alone, at any rate, the fact is that it
flooded half the house.

IF RS thought this below, wondering why he would think it'd be believable to stage a break in through FR's window. aren't they the same height?

Turning around I thought to
access Meredith's room by window and tried to find where, after I
discovered that the only access to the window was unthinkable heights,
and therefore I had to rethink.

Confused by this disappearing and reappearing crap:

We took a turn around
the house and Amanda is terrified and jumps on me because she tells me
that in the toilet there was no more **** because presumably before,
when she was taking a shower, had seen in the bathroom there was a
**** and nobody had pulled the water. I face and look within the
reflection in the water and not see the **** give for good what Amanda
said to me.

RS claims he told the PP to break the door but they wouldn't until more people arrived to press them.

For Amanda comes to mind that these phones were
Meredith's and I ask the police to break the door.
Initially, the police refused to violate privacy, but after Filomena
arrived, her boyfriend and their respective friends, he was convinced
to break in the door.

 

[claudicici]

I don't know whether that is true and neither do you. But if it were true it might only mean that AK is uniquely manipulated.

And I said before, if I found the example you demand, you will merely demand a new set of conditions. You don't believe AK's statement was coerced because and only because you don't want to believe it. Full stop.

otto,do you know of any other case for that matter where a college girl,that seems rather naive,in love (or lust) with a boy ,that she can barely communicate with plots a murder orgy that involves a guy of another race that said girl seems to be prejudiced against and her lover to rape a girl because she's annoyed with her and in that whole "drug crazed " frenzy ,she decides to cut her throat?

 

[flourish]

What was she oblivious about? Was she oblivious about her mother's second marriage? Her studies? Her job? Her foxy knoxy nickname? Her sexuality on a train, in the rain, in Berlin? What was she oblivious about?

Maybe it was some rare selective oblivion that only applies to this particular, incredibly vital time frame? :cow:

Although...does blowing off the job in Berlin get chalked up to oblivion? :crazy::innocent:

 

[flourish]

It's your world. do what you gotta do.

It's my world? :waitasec: No need to make me out to be more than just the wee l'il poster that I am, but I reckon since you're bestowing super-awesome earthly ownership to this little lass, well, how could I not accept? :curtsey::curtsey::curtsey:

 

[claudicici]

Read Amanda's short stories ... if that isn't a troubled soul, nothing is. I especially recommend her winning short story from the prison competition. She uses the alias Marie Pace (that's her middle name with "peace" attached) ... seems to describe the murder ... in a fog, naturally.

I would love to ! ...I have not found them...I've been searching for them! I'll google Marie Pace right now !