Meredith Kercher murdered-Amanda Knox appeals conviction #14

[SMK]

Have we discussed the letter to President Obama about this matter?

http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/ConsularFailureKnox.pdf

I might feel like printing this off and co-signing and mailing it, too! I'm concerned because we I travel, I'm not trying to be wrongfully convicted and trapped in a foreign prison without my country lifting a finger to help me.

The thing is, to not know Amanda's situation, Obama had to have been living in a cave, waiting on Osama to return.

Some time ago I had posted and linked the letter to President Obama, and no one remarked.

There is this one, but there is also one signed by Mark Waterbury, Bruce Fisher, and others, I will try and find the second one:

Judge seeks probe of State Dept. in Amanda Knox case

SEATTLE - A local judge has sent a letter to President Obama, accusing the U.S. State Department of failure to protect the rights of Seattle student Amanda Knox since her 2007 arrest in Italy after her roommate's killing.http://www.komonews.com/news/local/123584869.html

*The first article of Bruce Fisher's on Ground Report re the letter appeared on May 28, and states that the letter was copied to all members of the US Congress:

http://www.groundreport.com/Business/Amanda-Knox-Traveler-s-Advisory/2939271

*Here is Bruce Fisher's 2nd article of June 8:

Seattle, WA, USA – June 8, 2011

The Friends of Amanda Knox have written to President Barack Obama expressing their concern about the failure of consular officials to protect the rights of American citizen, Amanda Knox, convicted in Perugia, Italy, of murdering her British roommate and sentenced to 26 years in prison.

The letter sent to Obama on May 16, 2011 indicates seven areas in which Italian or EU law was violated by prosecutors and police in Perugia, Italy. Yet, the letter cites repeated assertions by State Department spokespersons that it was their obligation to safeguard those same rights. It was sent by Michael Heavey, a superior court judge acting in a personal capacity only, and cosigned by Thomas Wright, founder of Friends of Amanda, Dr. Mark C. Waterbury, author of The Monster of Perugia – The Framing of Amanda Knox, and attorney Anne Bremner, spokesperson of Friends of Amanda.

Guess it is all one letter, so just reposting what I and others have posted, to give it a bump:

*(I don't know if this was the right tack to take, but in the PDF cc of the letter, the Judge asserts Mignini labeled Knox as "a witch".):

PDF FILE OF LETTER TO PRESIDENT AND CONGRESS: http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/ConsularFailureKnox.pdf.

http://www.groundreport.com/World/Failure-to-Protect-Amanda-Knox-Rights-Decried-in-L/2939490

 

[SMK]

From the Seattle Examiner June 9:

The letter to President Obama touches on many of the same points that have been raised by legal and forensic experts, former FBI agent Steve Moore, and others who have looked at the way the trial was conducted and been deeply disturbed at what they found.

Prominent criminologist Paul Ciolino, who investigated the case for CBS news, called the conviction of Amanda Knox “the railroad job from hell.”

These voices, both in Italy, the United States, and elsewhere form a mounting chorus of concern that Amanda Knox's human rights and rights under Italian law have been violated by a justice system in Perugia, Italy that is out of control.

Why hasn't the State Department taken action to safeguard the rights of this innocent American citizen?

http://www.examiner.com/headlines-i...n-failure-to-protect-her-rights#ixzz1OswZD6gu


I would think the answer to the question posed at end, would be the State Dept. is trusting the Italian system and the Appellate process....:waitasec:

 

[dgfred]

Common sense tells us that when you have a glass pattern spraying into the room that the rock was thrown from the outside, and that if one of the prime suspects has a history of b&e - including scaling second floor walls - then it was probably real and probably him.

What do we have to counter this? Filomena's hazy memory of closing the shutters but not completely and disturbing the crime scene before it could be investigated, and a bunch of assumptions regarding a nail on the wall, and lack of footprints/glass on the lawn. Massei's common sense logic also includes finding it perfectly ordinary for a young woman to carry a large kitchen knife in her purse for protection, so if that's supposed to be reassuring no thanks.

Maybe this "higher education" jury won't be so gullible.

Well hello there,
First off, I don't believe there are any cites that show RG 'scaled' a wall in his history. I would like to see one with proof, instead of speculation.

Secondly, the 'glass pattern' can not be used as proof one way or another about where the rock was thrown from (whether in or outside) IMO. Since the window can be opened to the inside... both are possibilites. A rock thrown from the outside (even tho heavy IMO) could have been thrown from the outside and the scene STILL BE STAGED.
*But the good thing at least from you since you claim it was a real break-in... we will not have to hear about 'RG staged the break-in, not AK' :rocker:

Third, as I said... whether the shutters were closed 'at first' doesn't really matter because the stager 'could' have first opened the shutters and then thrown the rock from the outside to stage (or opened the window to the inside and thrown it threw from inside the room). Thus, hazy memory or not from Filomena is irrevelant IMO. Her testimony of her actions regarding the glass fragments is quite clear... as is ILE testimony that the glass was ON TOP of the clothing and laptop. Experienced investigators usually 'red flag' any evidence of staging during 'theft' investigations... much more so a murder investigation I would think.

Fourth, I doubt Mignini (or me really)is too concerned over your reassurance regarding motive or how the knife got to the murder room. Carrying it in a bag IS a possibility- bringing as a prank 'prop' is also a possibility- as is for protection however remote. Since motive does not have to be proved, why is that such a 'stickler' for you?

Fifth, maybe a 'higher education' jury might INCREASE the sentence too, or find it even easier to back up the original convictions. I don't think the first jurors (with judges included I might add) was 'gullible' at all. We shall see.

 

[SMK]

Well hello there,
First off, I don't believe there are any cites that show RG 'scaled' a wall in his history. I would like to see one with proof, instead of speculation.

Snipped by SMK for emphasis

FROM THE DAILY BEAST ( A PRO-CONVICTION ONLINE PUBLICATION)

BY BARBIE NADEAU : http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-06-27/at-knox-trial-the-killer-speaks/
Late on the night of October 13, 2007, a couple of blocks from the house where Kercher was murdered, Guede broke into a law office and stole a Nokia cellphone and Sony Vaio computer. He smashed a window about 10 feet above the ground with a large rock, then scaled the wall, unlatched the window and crawled in. Two weeks later, the computer was in his possession when he was found in a nursery school in Milan. There, Maria Antonietta Salvadori del Prado, the school administrator, discovered him asleep in her office. "He was very serene and explained that he had been told that for €50 he could sleep here for the night," she told the court. She also testified that along with the computer, he had a kitchen knife, a woman’s watch, and a small hammer in his backpack. "I was shocked to find him there. I was more shocked when I discovered he was wanted for Meredith Kercher's murder."

 

[dgfred]

Sorry, that doesn't do for me. If he was known to have done the breaking in and KNOWN to have scaled the wall... he would have been arrested. He was ONLY charged with having stolen goods in his possession IIRC.

 

[SMK]

Sorry, that doesn't do for me. If he was known to have done the breaking in and KNOWN to have scaled the wall... he would have been arrested. He was ONLY charged with having stolen goods in his possession IIRC.

And many believe this is because he was a police drug informant. :razz:

 

[SMK]

Law News June 10, 2011:

Italian Prosecutor Says He Can’t Place Amanda Knox In Murder Room

http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/italian_prosecutor_says_he_cant_place_amanda_knox_in_murder_room/

 

[dgfred]

And many believe this is because he was a police drug informant. :razz:

They would have at least had his fingerprints on file if that was so.

 

[dgfred]

Law News June 10, 2011:

Italian Prosecutor Says He Can’t Place Amanda Knox In Murder Room

http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/italian_prosecutor_says_he_cant_place_amanda_knox_in_murder_room/

Of course that is not what he really said, plus just having 'some' part in a murder makes one a murderer too.

 

[SMK]

They would have at least had his fingerprints on file if that was so.

They did. :razz:

 

[SMK]

Of course that is not what he really said, plus just having 'some' part in a murder makes one a murderer too.

:razz: what about her being the knife-wielder???? can he not make up his mind?

 

[dgfred]

They did. :razz:

Nope, they got them from Immigration. 'unrazz'

 

[SMK]

Nope, they got them from Immigration. 'unrazz'

Rudy Guede was a drug dealer who was well known by the police. He had also been arrested for theft. It was reported that he had a knife in his possession at the time of his arrest. He became a suspect in the Meredith Kercher murder after his bloody fingerprint was discovered at the crime scene. Rudy's finger prints were on file from a previous arrest in Milan.:razz::razz::razz:
http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/Rudy.html

 

[dgfred]

Well if that is on B.Fischer's site I guess we should all believe it... because he has shown he has no agenda whatsoever. :crazy:

 

[SMK]

Well if that is on B.Fischer's site I guess we should all believe it... because he has shown he has no agenda whatsoever. :crazy:

Well, everyone has some agenda, it would seem. I am trusting him. If he is fabricating , the shame would be his.

 

[dgfred]

Oh, I understand. I too am trusting my sources that they were under file for immigration purposes... not ILE.

 

[SMK]

Oh, I understand. I too am trusting my sources that they were under file for immigration purposes... not ILE.

Right: Whether it is TJFMK or PMF or Nick Pisa or Bruce Fisher, there is a certain amount of trust involved. As for Mignini, the Sun made several CDs of what he called merely "chit chat", not a formal interview. His placing her outside the room might have been the better theory from the get-go.

 

[dgfred]

:razz: what about her being the knife-wielder???? can he not make up his mind?

He really doesn't need to. He got his convictions, motive does not have to be proved, and which of the three made the fatal stabs is not as relevant as that all three were there. Only one way to know for sure... well, really three ways.

 

[SMK]

He really doesn't need to. He got his convictions, motive does not have to be proved, and which of the three made the fatal stabs is not as relevant as that all three were there. Only one way to know for sure... well, really three ways.

OK, so THIS is what he was actually trying to say in the informal interview to the SUN: "Even if there is no DNA of Knox is in the room, I am still correct in placing her as one of the co-conspirators in a deadly attack, because theoretically she could have been part of the set-up and instigation for the 2 males." Right?

 

[dgfred]

Right IMO. She was still a 'part' of the murder. Still obvious clean up, and other evidence of her being there during or after the murder (Meredith's dna/blood mixed with hers).