Meredith Kercher murdered-Amanda Knox appeals conviction #21

[OldSteve]

I truly believe that Amanda and Raf are innocent. I am praying that justice is served and they win their appeal. Meredith also deserves justice, but I believe there is only one person responsible for her death and he is already in jail.

I'm on pins and needles waiting for this verdict. I have butterflies in my stomach...I can't imagine how Amanda, Raf, their families and friends must feel. Of course the verdict will probably come out while I am picking my kids up from school. Hopefully one of the XM radio stations will announce it!

I started out thinking they were guilty (way back on thread?) but after reading what was posted here, changed my opinion to that they have not been proven guilty. That is not to say they have been proven innocent...
It would not surprise me, as I have mentioned, that be found guilty with sentence reduced to time served. I know that doesn't make sense in terms of the crime, but neither does Rudy's short sentence.

 

[wasnt_me]

:rocker:

Is that Meredith's brother? I didn't know she had a brother? I thought just the one sister.

Salem

Salem, I just have to say your excitement is so refreshing! Usually, you're in here because we are not behaving, so it's just so much fun to have you in here purely for the case! :rocker:

 

[Rolfe]

I simply can't see any reason to believe they are guilty. The phenomenon of people saying unwise things after an allnighter in the cop-shop is hardly unprecedented, and I discount that completely. There's simply no evidence to place Knox and Sollecito at the cottage that evening, as opposed to in his flat. They were only suspected because the police jumped to unwarranted premature conclusions.

 

[wasnt_me]

they have to release Amanda!

AND Rafe, too!:maddening::great:

 

[wasnt_me]

goodness, I gotta get ready for work. If I don't watch it, I'll be late.

 

[mrsu]

I'm just watching TruTV and they were saying she'd be coming back to the states regardless if she's released or not. She'll serve her sentence (if she's sentenced) in the US.

I didn't realize that.

 

[Sonata]

I simply can't see any reason to believe they are guilty. The phenomenon of people saying unwise things after an allnighter in the cop-shop is hardly unprecedented, and I discount that completely. There's simply no evidence to place Knox and Sollecito at the cottage that evening, as opposed to in his flat. They were only suspected because the police jumped to unwarranted premature conclusions.

Yes, I think upon reflection that one of the main reasons I changed my opinion on the case is that there were so many parts of it where I had initially made a very snap decision about it - things like their behaviour, the false accusation, previous arguments etc

But then, I look back at those, and they are all so easy to explain when you suppose innocence for a moment. That's the key for me - the supposition of each side leaves me with the overwhelming sense that innocence just seems more realistic. Pure opinionated conjecture of course!

 

[Rolfe]

I'm just watching TruTV and they were saying she'd be coming back to the states regardless if she's released or not. She'll serve her sentence (if she's sentenced) in the US.

I didn't realize that.

Prisoner transfer? I wonder if the US prisons are preferable to the Italian one.

 

[belimom]

I'm just watching TruTV and they were saying she'd be coming back to the states regardless if she's released or not. She'll serve her sentence (if she's sentenced) in the US.

I didn't realize that.

????

That makes no sense whatsoever. :waitasec:

 

[SMK]

I'm just watching TruTV and they were saying she'd be coming back to the states regardless if she's released or not. She'll serve her sentence (if she's sentenced) in the US.

I didn't realize that.

Yes, I heard that on InSession, too, and was surprised!

 

[nursebeeme]

Belimom,
I still am not sure Amanda is innocent either. I think the whole prosecutor scandal and the media coverage have to do with my confusion as per my current opinion. I have all along thought she was guilty and still think deep down that I still do.

what is great is that we are allowed to have our opinions at websleuths and not worry about having rotten vegetables thrown at us for stating it.

 

[Rolfe]

????

That makes no sense whatsoever. :waitasec:

It makes perfect sense. Prisoner transfer agreements between countries for that purpose are quite common. I wonder if a US prison would be more severe, though.

 

[Monzoo]

So there are judges AND jurors deciding together??? So different than our system......


Ugh, this wait....I can't imagine what the families are going through.


Is it possible to have two different decisions or, since the trial was for both of them, does the decision have to be the same?

It is possible to have completely different verdicts. I don't think it's likely, because their defenses were coordnated. They are also eachother's alibi. If you find one not guilty, they would be the albi for the other. Realistically, I think they will either both be found guily or not guilty.

The only difference is that Amanda is the only one charged with Calunnia because of her statement against Patrick Lumumba -- they could both be found guilty of murder, but Amanda could still be found guilty of this one charge.

 

[mrsu]

????

That makes no sense whatsoever. :waitasec:

Sorry, I didn't catch all of it, got a phone call, but they mentioned some kind of treaty. Sorry, I do know they said it, but I didn't catch what the treaty was called.

 

[wasnt_me]

I didn't have an opinon, but it just didn't sound right. The motives didn't sound right, the logistics didn't sound right, etc. But RG's all sounded right. I could never imagine an out the blue escalation to murder involving 3 people who don't even know each other over money. I cannot figure out why RG would even join in if he were there for social reasons.

So for me, his story had to be true, but upon researching his story, I realized there's no way his story makes sense, so AK and RS have to be innocent. If RG was there for social reasons, I can't imagine he'd join in the murder.

Then when there was no evidence of AK and RS in the room, etc, I just went for innocent.

 

[wasnt_me]

Oh yeah, then when I heard about corrupt Mignini, that's was case closed innocent. It was too much coincidence that he keeps accusing people of satan rituals. And then the narrow-minded MOT report pissed me off, frankly.

 

[Rolfe]

Belimom,
I still am not sure Amanda is innocent either. I think the whole prosecutor scandal and the media coverage have to do with my confusion as per my current opinion. I have all along thought she was guilty and still think deep down that I still do.

what is great is that we are allowed to have our opinions at websleuths and not worry about having rotten vegetables thrown at us for stating it.

I simply see no reason to believe they are guilty. A burglar surprised by the resident returning, proceeding to sexually assault and murder the resident, is not such an unlikely scenario. And that is the scenario that is supported and suggested by 100% of the evidence.

The problem is the police jumped to a different conclusion before the evidence was collected, and couldn't let go once their original error had been exposed. I suspect that Amanda's accusation that the police has struck her was pivotal, because if they had released her without charge she could have made a fair bit of trouble over that.

 

[Salem]

So what happened to the live feed? What are they doing now?

Salem

 

[wasnt_me]

Then the bra clasp party seemed like a setup to me.

 

[Monzoo]

So what happened to the live feed? What are they doing now?

Salem

I think that there is nothing to transmit until the verdict -- I think the judge said probably around 8:00 pm. (2:00 pm EDT)