Meredith Kercher murdered - Amanda Knox convicted, now appeals #6

[otto]

According to Knox testimony, she was beaten:

"Miss Knox said she became so confused that after hours of interrogation, which lasted all night, she could no longer tell the difference between her imagination and reality.

She said that everyone was "yelling at me" and "saying they'd put me in prison for trying to protect someone."

At one point, Lumumba's lawyer asked whether police had beaten her so that she would say that Kercher had been raped before dying and Miss Knox replied, "Yes." "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-by-police-after-Meredith-Kerchers-death.html

 

[otto]

There is no official source and no byline there. After reading so many lies from the media (especially early in the case) I am reluctant just to believe what a paper says is true.

We know for a fact that the rest of the story in that article is not true, so why would this one line be true?

The same information is posted in a couple of other news sites, and the information is based on Knox's confession. More details can be found here:

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view...edith-scream-says-girl-in-student-sex-murder-

 

[dgfred]

One can't miss the irony that the prosecutor wants AK to serve additional time for slander, but the officials who told her she was HIV+ apparently go unpunished.

It was their DUTY to notify her... even if a 'false-positive' test result. They told her immediately that they would re-run the test to be sure.

*Wasn't it the family or defense that released the partners list anyway???

 

[otto]

It was their DUTY to notify her... even if a 'false-positive' test result. They told her immediately that they would re-run the test to be sure.

*Wasn't it the family or defense that released the partners list anyway???

According to Knox, the first thing they told her when the results were returned was "not to worry, it could be a mistake". I can't imagine who should be "punished" for telling her that. My understanding is that Knox wrote this in her diary and the family chose which pages to release to the public.

 

[Jade]

In my opinion the personality defects of the accused is what is the attraction in this case. That is what has made this case a headliner.

Like with Scott Peterson the world is fascinated by a seemly normal even attractive on the surface looking suspect who seems to think pulling a few sad faces does the job so they can continue on their merry way.

Then there are aspects to a sociopathic personality that are very compelling, addictive even.

Which is why I am not surprised that some defend AK & RS. I am sure that same as with other prisoners they get their share of love letters and devoted pen pals.

But with a lack of consciousness reining them in inhibiting their lies the simple truth is unduly convoluted.

How else would a simple gal innocently, studiously representing America and her bookish looking boyfriend end up in such a quandary?

AK drew attention to herself at the scene and the police station I am sure without intending to but instead lacking empathy her stance did not ring true.
I have spent more time upset and feeling withdrawn after seeing a stray dog hit by a car.

A normal person being tremendously shaken by the horror [after all what if it had been she at home alone?] would observe the decorum of the setting of the police station recognizing the gravity of the situation.

Not sharing the low opinion of their law enforcement I think they smelled a rat from the first and the length of her questioning reflects that. It was simply obvious she was unremorseful lair.

The baleful face she pulled, while kissing RS at the murder scene indicated her initial recognition of needing to display some sort of reaction.

But hardly the face of someone who has just discovered that a roommate has been murdered in her home -instead of fear, concern, and I would think even panic or anxiety to be so far from home her being such an innocent lass and all.

Maybe I would have bought it as a funeral face but right then, no surprise Amanda, not shocked not even a bit are you?


All IMO

 

[SleuthyGal]

The difference, though, is we have Scott Peterson on audio tape telling lie after lie after lie. We can hear it for ourselves! There is video of him visiting the bay to secretly watch what the police were doing during the search. There is surveillance video and GPS data to back up his hinky actions after Laci went missing. There are computer searches and other computer forensic details of him looking for tides, purchasing a boat...planning and plotting. There are store receipts of him buying supplies to go 'camping.' Thousands of dollars found on his person, a car he registered to 'Jackelyn,' claiming that was his name. Such a mountain of stuff to indicate this was a sociopath who tried to deceive everyone around him for a long time, cheated on his wife, hoped he'd never have kids, etc, etc.

Now contrast that with the accused in this case (and I assume you are referring to AK and RS).

- no audio
- one or two emails from AK?
- a diary or some kind of writing from RS?
- one video of them holding each other with a short kiss
- no evidence of them in MK's room outside of RS's DNA on a bra clasp that was passed around after being found weeks later.
- no motive that has made sense
- no proof of conspiracy
- RS and RG never met each other

We know very little. They smoked pot. ooookay. They drank. yawn. RS had a collection of knives and watched some . They may or may not have been involved in this murder -- there is doubt about the evidence and a prosecutor who is more colorful and certainly more corrupt than either defendant. We probably know more about RG since he had a criminal background.

In fact, there is so little known and understood about who these college kids really are that you could almost substitute any random male / female college student and assign a bunch of rumors to them and get the same effect with the media and opinions.

To me, comparing Peterson to these two is like night and day.

 

[otto]

The difference, though, is we have Scott Peterson on audio tape telling lie after lie after lie. We can hear it for ourselves! There is video of him visiting the bay to secretly watch what the police were doing during the search. There is surveillance video and GPS data to back up his hinky actions after Laci went missing. There are computer searches and other computer forensic details of him looking for tides, purchasing a boat...planning and plotting. There are store receipts of him buying supplies to go 'camping.' Thousands of dollars found on his person, a car he registered to 'Jackelyn,' claiming that was his name. Such a mountain of stuff to indicate this was a sociopath who tried to deceive everyone around him for a long time, cheated on his wife, hoped he'd never have kids, etc, etc.

Now contrast that with the accused in this case (and I assume you are referring to AK and RS).

- no audio
- one or two emails from AK?
- a diary or some kind of writing from RS?
- one video of them holding each other with a short kiss
- no evidence of them in MK's room outside of RS's DNA on a bra clasp that was passed around after being found weeks later.
- no motive that has made sense
- no proof of conspiracy
- RS and RG never met each other

We know very little. They smoked pot. ooookay. They drank. yawn. RS had a collection of knives and watched some . They may or may not have been involved in this murder -- there is doubt about the evidence and a prosecutor who is more colorful and certainly more corrupt than either defendant. We probably know more about RG since he had a criminal background.

In fact, there is so little known and understood about who these college kids really are that you could almost substitute any random male / female college student and assign a bunch of rumors to them and get the same effect with the media and opinions.

To me, comparing Peterson to these two is like night and day.

I think a lot of post-sec students would be highly offended to think that they could be viewed as Knox, Sollecito and Guede - all convicted murderers.

There may well be little known about the trial evidence in the US, but you can thank the Knox PR team for that. Information about the trial was not suppressed in Italy. If you're not satisfied with the information that is available in the US, the 427 page report, summarizing the conviction decision, has been kindly translated into English. All the information regarding the evidence and conviction is now easily available to English speakers ... so there is much to be known and understood if one wishes to know it.

 

[trillian]

The same information is posted in a couple of other news sites, and the information is based on Knox's confession. More details can be found here:

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view...edith-scream-says-girl-in-student-sex-murder-

Thank you. I had not seen that article before. I still dont see where the quotes are coming from. What is the source? Recorded statements? Her written confession? Or is this a translation of what the police said she said?

 

[flourish]

Truly Flourish anything is always possible. We must also be logical about the information and the sources. It would be like asking RS if he could be 100% sure AK did not wake up, leave, and come back. There is no way either you or myself could with 100% certainty state that she did not just like RS could not as he stated he was asleep.

We have all seen the pictures of them around the cottage immediately after. We know they then went to give statements to ILE. I would imagine most were exhausted and hungry. She did go to class on the Monday, but as well we know that she spent 41 hours with ILE in a 4 day time span. Logic tells us that you must eat and sleep during the time she was not with ILE or at school. Thus i will assume over 4 days she spent approximately 10 hours with ILE per day out of 24.

We know she was given the blood/urine tests as confirmed by a number of sources. I did come across where they indeed took hair samples as well, but was looking for more verification before i would post that. I simply do not try to post things to mislead.

She was tested for HIV and told within 2 weeks of being arrested that she tested positive. Most of us know that it takes approximately 2 weeks for these tests to come back As is normal you must then supply the names of anyone you had any type of sexual contact with so they could be tested. It was leaked that she had sex with 7 individuals over a few months when in fact it was her lifetime. This was leaked to the press via her diary. Once they received the list of whom she slept with she was then told she was negative. She sat in prison thinking she had HIV for approximately a month before they told her she was negative.

Is it possible she could of taken some other drug that was not detectable and the answer would have to be yes. Is it probable with what we know about how sensitive the tox screens are and how many types of drugs and the length of time they can detect these drugs for. No.

Could she have tried to "cleanse" drugs out of her system. Yes. Is it probable? No.

We read about atheletes constantly trying to do this exact thing, whether it is the worlds, the Olympics, baseball, football etc.

There simply comes a point in time where we have to say what is truly realistic here. Realistically, it is not probable that she took any other drug than cannabis.

Here was the clincher for me. They detected the cannabis.

If the tests were done and picked up the cannabis, the other drugs should of showed as well.

If she had tried to cleanse the cannabis would not of shown up.

I'm at work, so this has to be short.
Allusonz, thank you for the information. So it is possible.

In the myriad of criminology and substance-abuse prevention classes I took during my way too long undergrad studies, the distiction between water-soluble and fat-soluble drugs was discussed at length. It was my understanding that the THC or whatever metabolite or other bodily evidence of marijuana consumption was a fat-soluble substance, and therefore would stay in the body longer.

Is it possible then that other drugs could have been out of her system but because of the fat-soluble nature of the cannabis, it wasn't out of her system, hence the test results?

 

[flourish]

According to Knox, the first thing they told her when the results were returned was "not to worry, it could be a mistake". I can't imagine who should be "punished" for telling her that. My understanding is that Knox wrote this in her diary and the family chose which pages to release to the public.

So if they tested her, got a positive result, and then didn't bother to tell her, I wonder what folks would be saying and complaining about. :waitasec:

IMO this is a mountain made out of a mole-hill...they reassured her about the test results being possibly incorrect, as Otto points out, so....

 

[Malkmus]

According to Knox testimony, she was beaten:

"Miss Knox said she became so confused that after hours of interrogation, which lasted all night, she could no longer tell the difference between her imagination and reality.

She said that everyone was "yelling at me" and "saying they'd put me in prison for trying to protect someone."

At one point, Lumumba's lawyer asked whether police had beaten her so that she would say that Kercher had been raped before dying and Miss Knox replied, "Yes." "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-by-police-after-Meredith-Kerchers-death.html

Hey, guys, unfortunately I've been super busy at work and unable to join in the conversation. But, quickly, the above is a reference to her trial testimony:

CP: All right, I'll reformulate the question. Meredith, before she was
killed, did she have sex?

AK: I don't know.

CP: Then why, in the interrogation of Nov 6 at 1:45, did you say that
Meredith had sex before she died?

AK: Under pressure, I imagined lots of different things, also because during
the days that I was being questioned by the police, they suggested to me
that she had been raped.

CP: And the police suggested to you to say this?

AK: Yes.

CP: And to make you say this, did they hit you?

AK: Yes.

 

[otto]

Thank you. I had not seen that article before. I still dont see where the quotes are coming from. What is the source? Recorded statements? Her written confession? Or is this a translation of what the police said she said?

Knox made claims when she was questioned as a witness, and then re-stated some of those claims in her voluntary "gift" statement. Only the latter was admissable in court, but some of original statement was made public. I'm guessing that since the article is dated Nov 8, 2007, and some of that information was not included in court proceedings, that those comments could be from her first statement.

 

[Malkmus]

For those interested, here are the two statements Knox signed, at 1:45 and 5:45:

QUESTURA DI PERUGIA
SQUADRA MOBILE

Re: Minutes of the information conveyed by:
KNOX Amanda Marie, born in Washington (U.S.A.) on July 9th 1987, domiciled in Perugia, Via della Pergola n. 7; identified by means of Passport n. 422687114 issued by the Government of the U.S.A. on June 13th 2007, tel. 3484673590

On November 6th 2007, at 01.45, in Perugia at the Offices of the Squadra Mobile of the Questura of Perugia. Before the undersigned Officers of the Judicial Authority Chief Inspector, FICARRA Rita, assisted by ZUGARINI Lorena and RAFFO Ivano, respectively on duty at the office above mentioned in the epigraph and in presence of the person mentioned in the re who sufficiently understands and speaks Italian, assisted by the English-speaking interpreter Anna Donnino, who, in relation to the death of KERCHER Meredith Susanna Cara and after the precedent declarations, declares the following: ----------------------
“In order to complete what has been retailed before by means of precedent declarations made at this Office, I wish to clarify that I know and see other people who have also come to my house sometimes and who have also met Meredith and of whom I will provide the relevant mobile numbers ----------------------------------------------------
One of these people is Patrik, a colored citizen who is about 1,70-1,75 cm tall, with braids, owner of the pub “Le Chic” located in Via Alessi and I know that he lives in the area near the roundabout of Porta Pesa. Tel. 393387195723, pub where I work twice a week on Mondays and on Thursdays, from 22.00 until about 2.00. -----------------------------------------------
Last Thursday 1st November, day on which I usually work, while I was in the apartment of my boyfriend Raffaele, at about 20.30 I received a message from Patrick on my mobile, telling me that that evening the pub would remain closed because there were no people, therefore I didn’t have to go to work. ----------------------------------------------------------------
I replied to the message saying that we would meet immediately, therefore I went out telling my boyfriend that I had to go to work. I wish to state first that in the afternoon I had smoked a joint with Raffaele, therefore I felt confused because I do not usually make use of narcotics nor harder drugs. -------------------------------------------------------
I met Patrick soon after at the basketball court of Piazza Grimana and we went home. I do not remember if Meredith was already there or if she came later. I find it difficult to remember those moments but Patrick had sex with Meredith with whom he was infatuated but I do not remember well if Meredith had been threatened before. I vaguely remember that he killed her. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Office acknowledges that the statement stops here and KNOX Amanda is put at the disposal of the proceeding Judicial Authority.--------------------------------------------------------
F.L.C.S.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

QUESTURA DI PERUGIA
SQUADRA MOBILE

Re: Minutes of the information conveyed by:
KNOX Amanda Marie, born in Washington (U.S.A.) on July 9th 1987, domiciled in Perugia, Via della Pergola n. 7; identified by means of Passport n. 422687114 issued by the Government of the U.S.A. on June 13th 2007, tel. 3484673590.-

On November 6th 2007, at 05.45, in Perugia at the Offices of the Squadra Mobile of the Questura. Before the Undersigned Dr. MIGNINI Giuliano Deputy Prosecutor of the Public Prosecutor’s Office of the Republic at the Court of Perugia and before the Judicial Police Officers Chief Inspector, FICARRA Rita, respectively on duty at the office above mentioned in the epigraph and in presence of the person mentioned in the re who although sufficiently understands and speaks Italian is assisted by the English-speaking interpreter Anna Donnino and who in relation to the death of KERCHER Meredith Susanna Cara, declares the following: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I wish to relate spontaneously what happened because these events have deeply bothered me and I am really afraid of Patrick, the African boy who owns the pub called “Le Chic” located in Via Alessi where I work periodically. I met him in the evening of November 1st 2007, after sending him a reply message saying “I will see you”. We met soon after at about 21.00 at the basketball court of Piazza Grimana. We went to my apartment in Via della Pergola n. 7. I do not clearly remember if Meredith was already at home or if she came later, what I can say is that Patrick and Meredith went into Meredith’s room, while I think I stayed in the kitchen. I cannot remember how long they stayed together in the room but I can only say that at a certain point I heard Meredith screaming and as I was scared I plugged up my hears. Then I do not remember anything, I am very confused. I do not remember if Meredith was screaming and if I heard some thuds too because I was upset, but I imagined what could have happened.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I have met Patrick this morning, in front of the Università Per Stranieri and he has asked me some questions, to be more accurate he wanted to know what the Policemen had asked me. I think he has also asked me if I wanted to see some journalists, maybe in order to know if I knew anything about Meredith’s death.- I am not sure if Raffaele was there as well that night but I clearly remember that I woke up at my boyfriend’s home, in his bed and that I came back home in the morning when I found the door of the apartment open. When I woke up in the morning of November 2nd I was in bed with my boyfriend.------------------------------------
It is acknowledged that KNOX repeatedly brings her hands on her head and shakes it.---------
Read confirmed and undersigned at the time and in the place mentioned above.------------------

The fact that Amanda gets the meaning of her own text message wrong in the statements is just further proof, IMO, that these were ILE's ideas and not her own.

 

[miley]

It was their DUTY to notify her... even if a 'false-positive' test result. They told her immediately that they would re-run the test to be sure.

*Wasn't it the family or defense that released the partners list anyway???

How noble of them - was it also their duty to hand over her diaries and journals to a news director/journalist/crime writer
seriously? a week in, do you really think her parents would start distributing her journals to the media and telling them she had HIV --

guardian.co.uk

John hooper:
So many were taken aback to learn that, by the time she was arrested at the age of 20, Knox had had sex with seven men.

They were less outraged by how this information was obtained: Knox was told in prison she was HIV-positive and asked to write a list of her lovers. Before she was told that a mistake had been made, the list was passed to investigators, one of whom passed it to a journalist.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/04/two-faces-of-amanda-knox[/I]​

According to Knox, the first thing they told her when the results were returned was "not to worry, it could be a mistake". I can't imagine who should be "punished" for telling her that. My understanding is that Knox wrote this in her diary and the family chose which pages to release to the public.

It's a lot easier to see the truth once you move past the 4 yr. old media lies.

Futhermore, her journals, written before the crime, were collected as evidence from the cottage and along with the journal started in prison, both were handed over to the media proving this was intentionally done in order to assassinate Amanda's character early on.

(imagine this) the newspaper and writer were punished... not nearly enough considering the news sales and an instant best seller... plus, they forgot the Dr. & Mignini -- wait, Mignini was already on trial for mishandling another investigation and has since been convicted (maybe he'll be on trial for this one next)

Milan author Fiorenza Sarzanini sued for "Amanda and the Others"

The book, Amanda and the Others, was serialized in an Italian newspaper . It became and instant best seller. Written by Fiorenza Sarzanini, a leading crime author in Italy, it contained excerpts taken from Knox's personal journals and notebooks. \

The book also went into details of Knox's sexual life - including a fabriacated interview with an Albanian who claimed Knox liked wild sex.

Judge Gattari ordered that the damages be paid jointly by the author and the newspaper which published the series.
Continue reading at NowPublic.com: Amanda Knox Wins $59,500 in Damages from Milan Journalist | NowPublic News Coverage
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/amanda-knox-wins-59-500-damages-milan-journalist#ixzz1DaI5d7WY​

Perugia shock:

You shouldn't read a girl's diary. Not even publishing it.
Judge Patrizio Gattari, of section 1 of Milan Civil Court, has just ruled against journalist Fiorenza Sarzanini, director of Corriere della Sera Paolo Mieli, RCS Quotidiani S.p.A. and RCS Libri S.p.A. for violation of personal rights of Amanda Knox.

With the book Amanda e gli altri and several articles, as we remember, Sarzanini had published unauthorized excerpts from Amanda's diary and from the writings found in her exercise notebooks, prior to the crime and which were not produced in the trial. The book reported as well Amanda's "sensitive data" as a positive HIV test, which came to be wrong. It also referred the tale of an Albanian --appeared on the newspapers right after the arrests-- who had been describing details of sexual intercourse he said he had with Amanda, which turned to be false. http://perugia-shock.blogspot.com/2010/03/amanda-knox-compensated.html​

 

[otto]

Hey, guys, unfortunately I've been super busy at work and unable to join in the conversation. But, quickly, the above is a reference to her trial testimony:

Lots of discussion about the hitting during Knox's testimony, and "blows to the head" ... and oops, where did that interpreter come from?

AK: In my confusion, under the pressure of the police, I had to follow a reasoning that they had suggested to me, saying that I should have heard a scream of Meredith. The fact that I couldn't remember this fact suggeste that I must have covered my ears. So I followed that reasoning.

CP: Did they hit you to make you say this?

AK: They hit me twice, before I said the name of Patrick, to make me say a name that I couldn't give.

...

CP: When you wrote the memorandum, were you hit by police?

AK: When?

CP: When you wrote the memorandum. Were you hit by police?

AK: No.

CP: Mistreated?

AK: No.

CP: Did the police suggest the contents?

AK: No.

CP: You gave it to them freely?

AK: Yes.

CP: Voluntarily?

AK: Yes.

...

GM: The central point of that interrogation was the moment when the name of Patrick emerged. You spoke of suggestions, you spoke of pressure, you spoke of being hit, I asked you to give me a precise description of who gave you the blows, you need to describe this person. Was it a woman or a man? Who asked you the questions? Who was asking you the questions? There was the interpreter, who was the person who was translating. But the exam, the interrogation, who was doing it? Apart from the people who were going in and out. You must have understood that there was a murder, and this was a police station, and the investigation was hot, and what I am asking you is, who was actually conducting the interrogation?

GCM: The pubblico ministero is asking you, you said that the two blows were given to me by someone whose name I don't know. The pubblico ministero is asking you firstly if you can give a description of the person who hit you, if you saw her, and if you can give us a description. The second question --
...

AK: Well, there were lots and lots of people who were asking me questions, but the person who had started talking with me was a policewoman with long hair, chestnut brown hair, but I don't know her. Then in the circle of people who were around me, certain people asked me questions, for example there was a man who was holding my telephone, and who was literally shoving the telephone into my face, shouting "Look at this telephone! Who is this? Who did you want to meet?" Then there were others, for instance this woman who was leading, was the same person who at one point was standing behind me, because they kept moving, they were really surrounding me and on top of me. I was on a chair, then the interpreter was also sitting on a chair, and everyone else was standing around me, so I didn't see who gave me the first blow because it was someone behind me, but then I turned around and saw that woman, and she gave me another blow to the head.

 

[dgfred]

PRIOR TO THE CRIME is the important part. If she is dumb enough (and RS too) to write journals/diary in jail... then what is in them is open season as far as I am concerned. Maybe their lawyers should have PREVENTED them for writing them.

Yes, the information in the diary was released by the family... but I see nothing wrong with releasing the diary by LE either, if they were foolish enough to write it while in jail. The journals written before the crime are different IMO than the diary written while in jail.

 

[Nova]

Wishful thinking.

The lawyer is not the liar, Knox is the liar.

The ever changing lies of Knox:

"C. KNOX: Amanda was actually questioned and interrogated for over 41 hours and it culminated in a 14-hour overnight, very aggressive interrogation. She told us she has never been more scared in her entire life. And at that stage in the game, you`re virtually willing to sign anything in order to get out of that situation.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VELEZ-MITCHELL: That was Amanda Knox`s dad. And after that very long interrogation, Amanda pointed the finger at her boss, bar owner Patrick Lumumba, who turns out had an alibi. That false accusation is why she got 26 years and her boyfriend only got 25.

But her family says after 41 hours of being interrogated in a very brutal fashion, she was scared. And she may have changed her story and admitted to something she didn`t do because she was being browbeaten. "

http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0912/08/ijvm.01.html

I shouldn't have to point out that now you are citing AK's dad, not AK herself. And the difference between the 54 hour claim and the 41 hour claim may be a simple matter of two different people adding the hours differently. (Just as you and Allusonz get different numbers of hours leading up to the PL accusation because you each use a different ending point.)

Why are you still on about this? Nobody here has mentioned physical abuse nor blamed it for coerced testimony; everybody agrees AK said things that weren't true.

And even AK claimed the moon was made of green cheese, it wouldn't put her fingerprints or DNA back where they should be if she had murdered MK.

(ETA and your own later excerpts from AK's testimony show her saying she was struck twice. That may be a "beating" technically, but it isn't how the word is normally used in American English, particularly not with regard to prisoners under interrogation.)

 

[Nova]

"One resident who demanded anonymity told the Seattle Salmon, “It’s like a police state out here. You have to go to the legal defense fundraisers – like six last year – or else you are ostracized at the Westcrest Off-leash area.”

...

Is it just the fact that she is from West Seattle that creates such a fervor? Dr. Ursula Ordonez at Seattle University’s School of Psychology says yes and no. “Of course, West Seattleites are a shifty bunch. What are they hiding from out there? But, there is a deeper matter. They all know it could just as easily been one of their kids. Seattle is full of over-lenient parents raising dangerously self-entitled millennials. The trouble really starts when we export our handmade train wrecks to undefended countries like Italy,where they know how to parent”

Although none of the adults interviewed for this story could ever imagine a time when they would feel comfortable going public with their doubts, some are talking about forming a support group, anonymously and online."

http://theseattlesalmon.com/local-news/west-seattle-neighbors-secretly-think-amanda-knox-did-it

A Ph.D. (God only knows in what) from the University of Seattle calls an entire community "a shifty bunch"?

I assume otto linked to this site to show us the single most preposterous article ever written on this case.

 

[dgfred]

Over lenient parents are a problem almost everywhere in the US IMO. That, and telling them how wonderful they are all the time, and nothing they do is wrong. An example is youth soccer around my area... every person gets a trophy. The champions trophy is the same as the last place team's. That way, nobody feelings are hurt. :sick:

 

[Malkmus]

Lots of discussion about the hitting during Knox's testimony, and "blows to the head" ... and oops, where did that interpreter come from?

Fun fact: It was the interpreter who used her own personal experience of being traumatized at an earlier age to explain to Amanda that the same thing had happened to her, that being the reason she wasn't remembering going to the cottage. It sure took a lot of coaxing like this to get Amanda to acquiesce to what they thought happened that night.